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Dirty F 02-19-2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by TampaToker (Post 13805262)
Out of curiosity what do you like about Obama?

Obama could have exactly the same views as he has now but if he was white and clinton was black Pussyserver, and 90% of the black Obama voters would vote for Clinton. And thats a fact.

spanky part 2 02-19-2008 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13805429)
Fuck Obama I would never vote for a nig!

and we hear from another high school dropout:thumbsup

Snake Doctor 02-19-2008 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13805298)
Delegates today so far Obama 31 Hillary 22. If that's owned, I guess so. Only 930 more to go for Obama to clinch.

I wish the children would learn how elections are run. DELEGATES mean everything winning % don't mean shit. Hillary won Nevada by 10 points. Obama ended up with more delegates from Nevada.

Clinton won the popular vote in Nevada 51 to 45. If you think that adds up to 10 points then we have bigger problems than I thought in our public education system.
The reason Obama won more delegates in Nevada is because of the way the state decided to apportion them, the candidates had nothing to do with those rules.

The fact is that neither candidate will have the 2025 delegates needed to win the nomination outright. This makes the popular vote even more important because when the party leaders meet to decide how to handle (or avoid) a brokered convention, who has the most votes is definitely going to matter.

Also, for those of you who don't think 58 to 41 is a wipeout, anything 10 points or more is considered a landslide in an election. (Reagan beat Carter 50.7% to 41%)

Snake Doctor 02-19-2008 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13805435)
Obama could have exactly the same views as he has now but if he was white and clinton was black Pussyserver, and 90% of the black Obama voters would vote for Clinton. And thats a fact.

No it's not a fact (Mr I think 51 to 45 is a 10 point spread)

Clinton was way ahead of Obama in terms of black support until her husband played the race card in South Carolina. That was the beginning of the end for them.

Gouge 02-19-2008 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 13805435)
Obama could have exactly the same views as he has now but if he was white and clinton was black Pussyserver, and 90% of the black Obama voters would vote for Clinton. And thats a fact.

Obamas and Clintons views on the issues are almost the same so conventional wisdom just by looking at the exit polls would say blacks are voting for race and not on the issues. Thats not me saying this, it clearly shows it in the exit polls.

spanky part 2 02-19-2008 10:41 PM

Here's something a little more scary for the repubs to think about. Look at the vote totals. The combined dems have almost a million votes, the repubs around 300 k yikes.

Obama 584,000 with 58 % in McCain 205,000 55%

Over double the votes. This is gonna be wipeout for the dems if these numbers break this way in the general.

Doctor Dre 02-19-2008 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 13805307)
You are so full of shit it isn't even funny. Having backers like you is enough for me to vote "anyone but . . ."

You're beeing as smart as he is right now... great way to chose who you vote for !

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 02-19-2008 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13805461)
No it's not a fact (Mr I think 51 to 45 is a 10 point spread)

Clinton was way ahead of Obama in terms of black support until her husband played the race card in South Carolina. That was the beginning of the end for them.


This is a fact

Clinton still counts some of the most powerful black cicil rights leaders in the country as her supporters and most black people I know personaly backed her 100% in the begining

I think once the clintons showed that they would do and or say anythin to win... people realized that it was time for a change

this has absolutely nothing to do with race except in the minds of those whom still have isues with race in America

good to see that they are in fact a small minority of the people

God Bless America!! Go USA!!

spanky part 2 02-19-2008 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pussyserver (Post 13805475)
This is a fact

Clinton still counts some of the most powerful black cicil rights leaders in the country as her supporters and most black people I know personaly backed her 100% in the begining

I think once the clintons showed that they would do and or say anythin to win... people realized that it was time for a change

this has absolutely nothing to do with race except in the minds of those whom still have isues with race in America

good to see that they are in fact a small minority of the people

God Bless America!! Go USA!!

You are so right on. I always thought Clinton was one of our great presidents, but all the power grabbing has taken him down a notch. It's like they will do anything to get their power back. Even wanting to count Florida and Michigan when it was agreed in advance that they wouldn't count.Shit she was the only one on the Michigan ballot and that is right? WTF

Drake 02-19-2008 10:56 PM

He has momentum for sure. Good for him. Superdelegates will back whichever candidate gets the majority of delegates.

GatorB 02-19-2008 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 13805318)
I wish senile older people would realize that Barack Obama has amounted a INSURMOUNTABLE lead. Hillary Clinton needs 50% plus margin of victories in all of the remaining Primary's just to take the pledged delegate lead.

Barack Obama's campaign claimed this fact and MSNBC supported. "Even with the most creative math" Hillary is most likely going to lose the Pledged Delegates.

And if you think Super Delegates are going to highjack the election for the Clinton's you have another thing coming...it's not going to happen. Obama has energized the party. New voters, Independents, Republicans, and Democrats all amongst his coalition of supporters.

Blah...why do I even waste my time.


Ok first of all Mr Math Obama would need to win 70% of all the remaining pledged deleagtes to make the superdelegates moot. Even if you include his superdelegates and asusme he doesn't lose any of them, then he still needs 58% of the remaining delegates to clinch the nomination. Can he do that? Sure. Will he? Who knows? We'll know more after March 4th.

Gouge 02-19-2008 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 13805469)
Here's something a little more scary for the repubs to think about. Look at the vote totals. The combined dems have almost a million votes, the repubs around 300 k yikes.

Obama 584,000 with 58 % in McCain 205,000 55%

Over double the votes. This is gonna be wipeout for the dems if these numbers break this way in the general.

Democrats have historically voted more in primaries than general elections. The Federal Election Commission Reports show the trend.

GatorB 02-19-2008 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 13805550)
Democrats have historically voted more in primaries than general elections. The Federal Election Commission Reports show the trend.

Not to mention in many primaries independants don't vote. It's also well known that the Dems were more excited about their candidates than the republcians so naturally they'd have higher turnout for the priamries. Whether republicans are going to be so turned off by McCain they won't vote and basically concede the election to the dems is hard to know right now.

spanky part 2 02-19-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Gouge (Post 13805550)
Democrats have historically voted more in primaries than general elections. The Federal Election Commission Reports show the trend.

ummmm triple the amount, I don't think so.

Gouge 02-20-2008 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 13805610)
ummmm triple the amount, I don't think so.

Go review the The Federal Election Commission Reports for the past 40-50 years, the trend is solid. The numbers fluctuate depending on the governors, whos running the senate and house and what candidate has the most appeal.

bcooter 02-20-2008 02:36 AM

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ADL Colin 02-20-2008 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Young (Post 13805306)

I thought every Ron Paul supporter was a completely fucking nut until I did my OWN research.

You did research and found out Ron Paul SUPPORTERS are not nuts? Where did you research that? 5th is 3rd is 1st = nuts.

tiger 02-20-2008 03:44 AM

Losing by 1% is ownage to me :)

will76 02-20-2008 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 13805469)
Here's something a little more scary for the repubs to think about. Look at the vote totals. The combined dems have almost a million votes, the repubs around 300 k yikes.

Obama 584,000 with 58 % in McCain 205,000 55%

Over double the votes. This is gonna be wipeout for the dems if these numbers break this way in the general.

thats like comparing apples and rocks. Not every state has primaries some just had democratic ones and not republican ones i would have to check to see how that worked out. Secondly the republican field had a lot more candidates in the beginning so the votes were split up more. Its been just clinton and obama for a while now so they have less other people to split the vote up with.

Snake Doctor 02-20-2008 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13807290)
thats like comparing apples and rocks. Not every state has primaries some just had democratic ones and not republican ones i would have to check to see how that worked out. Secondly the republican field had a lot more candidates in the beginning so the votes were split up more. Its been just clinton and obama for a while now so they have less other people to split the vote up with.

They're not comparing just McCain's votes to Obama's votes or anything like that. They're speaking about the total number of votes cast in the republican primary versus the democratic primary. In that scenario, it doesn't matter if there are 2 candidates or 200.

The democrats are excited about this election and turnout will be huge in November.


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