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Socks · 02-14-2008, 09:15 AM

They have a 14 year old boy arrested for the shooting, which occurred inside a classroom.

It says he's being charged with attempted murder "which may be upgraded"

So I'm wondering, is this murder? If the family "pulls the plug" on the boy, does it then become murder? Is there now some sort of pressure on the family to pull the plug?

Fucked up situation.. Sorry, we won't play guess the race on this one..

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/13/boy.shot/index.html

Violetta · 02-14-2008, 09:16 AM

america needs more guns

royaljelly2 · 02-14-2008, 09:19 AM

yeah well the fact that the US allows guns, is the biggest problem.
that kid wouldnt have the gun other wise!

who · 02-14-2008, 09:32 AM

No, they should just teach their kids how to use guns properly from the time they can walk, like the guy in the other thread!

Warren · 02-14-2008, 09:36 AM

That's really sad, poor kid, for some reason I though he got shot in the leg.

pr0 · 02-14-2008, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by royaljelly2

yeah well the fact that the US allows guns, is the biggest problem.
that kid wouldnt have the gun other wise!

dude you better fucking PRAY we never lose our guns

I'm pretty sure england is sick of bailing you homo's out every time a hitler pops up....you better put your $ on us next time

SykkBoy · 02-14-2008, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by royaljelly2

yeah well the fact that the US allows guns, is the biggest problem.
that kid wouldnt have the gun other wise!

yeah, he would have used a knife or a pipebomb instead...

who · 02-14-2008, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

yeah, he would have used a knife or a pipebomb instead...

So, let's make it easy for them, since 'they're going to do it anyway' ??

Ridiculous.

GatorB · 02-14-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by who

No, they should just teach their kids how to use guns properly from the time they can walk, like the guy in the other thread!

You live in fantasyland. You give a pissed off person with low self esteem a gun and I dont care how much training he has, he's going shoot someone.

Guns are for those with small penises. I'm 39. I never owned a gun and nenver had a reason to.

GatorB · 02-14-2008, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

yeah, he would have used a knife or a pipebomb instead...

And you know this how? It's takes a hell of a lot more balls to stab someone that it does to shoot someone. Shooting can happen at a distance and the bullet does all the damage by itself. A knife YOU control it and you have to get very close to your victim. Any limp dick can shoot somone.

who · 02-14-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

You live in fantasyland. You give a pissed off person with low self esteem a gun and I dont care how much training he has, he's going shoot someone.

Guns are for those with small penises. I'm 39. I never owned a gun and nenver had a reason to.

Hrm, I was trying to be sarcastic... But you believed that I was being serious. Which is sad really, because it means that probably, many people DO think the things I wrote.

And you're right that guns are a macho thing. It's pathetic when people boast about their guns.

Lycanthrope · 02-14-2008, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Rockatansky

america needs more guns

Norway needs more death metal bands that burn churches and kill each other.

pr0 · 02-14-2008, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

yeah, he would have used a knife or a pipebomb instead...

they make air guns powerful enough now to kill a human

with a basic understanding of science, PSI, and connecting metal to a tank you could easily make a powder less gun in your home

there is NO end to violence without solving its root cause....which i think in this country is teen closet homo's going nuts

Satan · 02-14-2008, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by royaljelly2

yeah well the fact that the US allows guns, is the biggest problem.
that kid wouldnt have the gun other wise!

THAT has GOT to be the stupidest thing i have ever heard someone say, so other countries that dont allow guns the people dont ILLEGALLY get them?

I am licenced to carry a gun and take a safety course every couple years to renew it. its the idiots who dont watch or care what there kids do and leave the guns out that need to be locked up and put away for life, my guns are never left out, if its not in my holster its locked in the gun safe

pr0 · 02-14-2008, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Satan

THAT has GOT to be the stupidest thing i have ever heard someone say, so other countries that dont allow guns the people dont ILLEGALLY get them?

I am licenced to carry a gun and take a safety course every couple years to renew it. its the idiots who dont watch or care what there kids do and leave the guns out that need to be locked up and put away for life, my guns are never left out, if its not in my holster its locked in the gun safe

tru dat

Rochard · 02-14-2008, 10:13 AM

Can someone please explain to me why in the world Congress is having hearings about fucking Baseball while we had four school shootings in less than a week?

It's become such a common thing that the news doesn't even report them now.

who · 02-14-2008, 10:25 AM

America's priorities are fucked

Fap · 02-14-2008, 10:27 AM

another shooting in school?

SykkBoy · 02-14-2008, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by who

So, let's make it easy for them, since 'they're going to do it anyway' ??

Ridiculous.

If someone is violent and bent on killing or hurting someone, they're going to do it...

so why should I have to be affected because someone chooses to use a gun instead of a knife? Why should there be laws banning guns, when I could mow down school kids in an SUV if i decided it was time to take a couple people out?

pornguy · 02-14-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by royaljelly2

yeah well the fact that the US allows guns, is the biggest problem.
that kid wouldnt have the gun other wise!

that is the stupidest thing I have ever read.

Mexico has a law against guns, I think its 15 years for possessing one. And guess what. They are fucking everywhere. Fucking Tijuana has the highest murder rate in the world with more than 4k in 18 months. 98% of them with firearms.

AND THEY ARE ILLEGAL...

Brother Bilo · 02-14-2008, 10:33 AM

Eliminating guns won't fix violent people. It just means that they would use something else. Education at an early age is the best way to combat this, better parenting will also help with this.

The same idea applies to teaching kids boxing or karate or whatever. When they are young and you start teaching them this, you hammer the idea that this is used for self defense and all that.

Just a reminder to everyone in here, especially Europeans, guns are for more than self defense. I've taught hundreds of people how to shoot who want to learn for competitions or just to have fun and go shooting in a safe manner. I have a few guns and I don't carry them or use them for self defense. I just like to shoot. It's fun and good stress relief.

Bryan G · 02-14-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Can someone please explain to me why in the world Congress is having hearings about fucking Baseball while we had four school shootings in less than a week?

It's become such a common thing that the news doesn't even report them now.

4 School shootings this week alone?
Holy Shit

who · 02-14-2008, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

If someone is violent and bent on killing or hurting someone, they're going to do it...

so why should I have to be affected because someone chooses to use a gun instead of a knife? Why should there be laws banning guns, when I could mow down school kids in an SUV if i decided it was time to take a couple people out?

Because guns make it easy.

SykkBoy · 02-14-2008, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0

there is NO end to violence without solving its root cause....which i think in this country is teen closet homo's going nuts

exactly

this is a huge problem in our country: the treatment and understanding of mental illness....

Socks · 02-14-2008, 11:01 AM

So, 25 posts or so later..

Is this murder?

Methodcash Rick · 02-14-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by royaljelly2

yeah well the fact that the US allows guns, is the biggest problem.
that kid wouldnt have the gun other wise!

Yeah, I'm sure the kid went into a gun store, and legally purchased the gun..

Brother Bilo · 02-14-2008, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Socks

So, 25 posts or so later..

Is this murder?

Ya, I guess this kind of turned into a gun control debate, like any other issue that involves guns discussed on this board. I would definetly try the kid for murder, especially if they end up pulling the plug. Even without pulling the plug, what kind of a life is life support in a coma?

I say murder. Try the kid as an adult and put him away for the rest of his life.

ronaldo · 02-14-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Socks

It says he's being charged with attempted murder "which may be upgraded"

So I'm wondering, is this murder? If the family "pulls the plug" on the boy, does it then become murder? Is there now some sort of pressure on the family to pull the plug?

lol, what kind of pressure would there be, and by WHOM, to pull the plug on someone's loved one?

However, what I DO think is BS is how someone gets charged with a lesser crime and gets less prison time in a situation like this. Attempted murder and murder are the SAME fuckin' crime. The ONLY difference is the the guy MISSED or got unlucky (or lucky depending on how you look at it) and his victim survived.

edit-The intent was the same either way.

Socks · 02-14-2008, 03:33 PM

So everyone who gets shot or stabbed now can claim they were "murdered" ? Cmon now Ronaldo...

ronaldo · 02-14-2008, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

So everyone who gets shot or stabbed now can claim they were "murdered" ? Cmon now Ronaldo...

Actually, you're somewhat right. If they're shot in the arm or leg at close distance, I'd think not. If they're shot in the HEAD?? C'mon. The ONLY claim a lawyer could have for it not being MURDER is the guy was a bad shot and he MEANT to him in the arm. How anyone can shoot someone in the head at POINT BLANK range and get a lesser prison sentence than life in jail is beyond me. They meant to KILL whoever they shot. Amy Fisher for example, should be sitting in a jail cell for the rest of her life.

My point is simple, if you're willing to use a gun to take a shot at someone, you should go to jail for the rest of your life...whether the guy is killed or you miss him entirely. Call it whatever crime you want. End of story.

KILL_FRENZY · 02-14-2008, 03:50 PM

that's really sad

papill0n · 02-14-2008, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SykkBoy2

If someone is violent and bent on killing or hurting someone, they're going to do it...

so why should I have to be affected because someone chooses to use a gun instead of a knife? Why should there be laws banning guns, when I could mow down school kids in an SUV if i decided it was time to take a couple people out?

Here in Australia. 99% of people would not know where to get a gun even if they wanted to. The fact that there is such an enormous amount of guns in your country and everyone believes it is their 'right' to own one is the problem.

D · 02-14-2008, 04:08 PM

it continues to confound me how many people are "Pro Police State."

»Rob Content« · 02-14-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Socks

So everyone who gets shot or stabbed now can claim they were "murdered" ? Cmon now Ronaldo...

Hey brother answer your icq's, been trying to get in touch with you...

Matt 26z · 02-14-2008, 04:15 PM

It looks like this was an anti-gay hate crime. The boy who got shot was openly gay, and the shooter had confrontations with him leading up to this.

If this does end up being a hate crime, I would support the death penalty regardless of his age. People like this need to be exterminated from society ASAP.

And for those of you saying that guns need to be banned in the US, the flow of illegal guns from Mexico isn't something that can be stopped. They can't stop the drugs now, so they won't stop guns either. The result would be brazen criminals with guns who know that their law-abiding targets are unarmed.

ronaldo · 02-14-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by D

it continues to confound me how many people are "Pro Police State."

It continues to confound me how when someone is on the opposite side of an argument, the most exaggerated case is used to describe their position. Like pro-choice people are pro-death. Yeah okay. Are you PRO-school shootings?

People that are for gun control are against gun violence, not FOR Police States. What they fail to realize is that criminals are not going to abide by any gun control laws so it defeats the purpose anyways. Criminals WILL find a way if they want to. The only people who ARE going to comply are going to be already law abiding citizens.

P.S. I've been trying to get in touch with you for a good month now about content for buttnakedinthestreets.com.

Tubestone · 02-14-2008, 04:23 PM

that's sad!!

421Fill · 02-14-2008, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by royaljelly2

yeah well the fact that the US allows guns, is the biggest problem.
that kid wouldnt have the gun other wise!

good gawd this is an ignorant statement.

on a side note, the school this happened at is where both of my kids went to junior high, my daughter was there just last year... this hit a little too close to home.

I'm in the opinion that the way the media handles these situations sets it up for people to 'copy' what they see on tv... especially when the media present stories like this in such a mundane, everyday normal manner.

the fact that guns are legal in the US (with very strict rules here in california, as a matter of fact) has zero to do with this kid getting the gun. like someone said earlier, he didn't get it legally, that's for sure.

edited to answer the original question... I feel the kid should be tried for murder, and as an adult... point blank in the head from behind... seriously, it was clearly his intent to kill.

ronaldo · 02-14-2008, 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 421Fill

I'm in the opinion that the way the media handles these situations sets it up for people to 'copy' what they see on tv...

Yeah, I agree with that a little.

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=662012

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Sad to say, but I see this as natural progression. Ever since CNN turned the Columbine killers (Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold) into celebrities and with the explosion of reality TV, people WANT to be famous, and WANT to be on TV. How they GET famous and on TV doesn't really seem to matter.

Imagine how many people are sitting around RIGHT NOW, thinking, "It'll be my turn soon." They're watching all the press these people get, albeit posthumously, and if they're thinking of killing themself anyways, why not get themself some notoriety at the same time? Noone would remember them otherwise. But we'll remember them now.

I named the two Columbine killers above. Can ANYONE name TWO of the VICTIMS?? If noone cheats and uses google, that should prove my point. If the news channels stopped making celebrities of the killers and instead focused on the VICTIMS, there may be fewer of these over time.

I fully expect to see MANY more of these kinds of attacks in the future. I REALLY hope I'm wrong.

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	15 year old kid brain dead after school shooting They have a 14 year old boy arrested for the shooting, which occurred inside a classroom. It says he's being charged with attempted murder "which may be upgraded" So I'm wondering, is this murder? If the family "pulls the plug" on the boy, does it then become murder? Is there now some sort of pressure on the family to pull the plug? Fucked up situation.. Sorry, we won't play guess the race on this one.. http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/02/13/boy.shot/index.html

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Brother Bilo Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: I live in cage Posts: 4,193	Eliminating guns won't fix violent people. It just means that they would use something else. Education at an early age is the best way to combat this, better parenting will also help with this. The same idea applies to teaching kids boxing or karate or whatever. When they are young and you start teaching them this, you hammer the idea that this is used for self defense and all that. Just a reminder to everyone in here, especially Europeans, guns are for more than self defense. I've taught hundreds of people how to shoot who want to learn for competitions or just to have fun and go shooting in a safe manner. I have a few guns and I don't carry them or use them for self defense. I just like to shoot. It's fun and good stress relief. __________________

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	So, 25 posts or so later.. Is this murder?

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Socks Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,475	So everyone who gets shot or stabbed now can claim they were "murdered" ? Cmon now Ronaldo...

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Matt 26z So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: ¤ª"˜¨๑۩۞۩๑¨˜"ª¤ Posts: 18,481	It looks like this was an anti-gay hate crime. The boy who got shot was openly gay, and the shooter had confrontations with him leading up to this. If this does end up being a hate crime, I would support the death penalty regardless of his age. People like this need to be exterminated from society ASAP. And for those of you saying that guns need to be banned in the US, the flow of illegal guns from Mexico isn't something that can be stopped. They can't stop the drugs now, so they won't stop guns either. The result would be brazen criminals with guns who know that their law-abiding targets are unarmed.

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