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02-10-2008, 12:36 AM

Yep, it's about Maxcash or Maximumcash... I've been promoting their content since October 2006 and just to see how far their incompetence goes, here are the freakin' facts: based on the stats displayed, in over 74000 (seventy four THOUSAND) raw hits and over 21000(twenty one THOUSAND) unique hits sent, still no fucking sign-ups.

Start whining and make excuses if you have something to say about this, I have the print screens, available to everyone who wants to see "your performance"
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02-10-2008, 12:38 AM

Perhaps you're sending crap traffic or traffic thats not really looking for there content/niche
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02-10-2008, 12:39 AM

You kept promoting a program for that long while making 0 sales???
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02-10-2008, 12:40 AM

That's low. Can't believe there are programs out there that think they can get away with this sort of shit.

Post up the screens dude.
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02-10-2008, 12:49 AM

sounds like they had your shave rate set to 100%

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02-10-2008, 12:50 AM

Originally posted by ZumberCraig

That's low. Can't believe there are programs out there that think they can get away with this sort of shit.

Post up the screens dude.

I wish I could but I cannot post any images or url's but I'll be happy to send it over to you via email or icq
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02-10-2008, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by stev0

You kept promoting a program for that long while making 0 sales???

Like I said, I just wanted to see until where their shit goes...
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02-10-2008, 12:54 AM

Originally posted by stev0

You kept promoting a program for that long while making 0 sales???

That was my first thought.

However my 2nd thought was... Proof?
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02-10-2008, 12:56 AM

I just pushed a small amount and didn't see anything promising so that was that. Haven't really given them a real shot though. That sucks.

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02-10-2008, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by mrwilson

Perhaps you're sending crap traffic or traffic thats not really looking for there content/niche

Not even so, my traffic comes mainly from paying countries and on top of that, I've put up their codes on a site that have 100% SE's surfers, not a single trade in there, only SE's traffic and trust me, at least this kind of traffic is highly productive. Obvious I have several other tgp's/mgp's where I am sending trading based traffic, too, like everyone does, so the traffic crap is way out of question.
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02-10-2008, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by Nookster

I just pushed a small amount and didn't see anything promising so that was that. Haven't really given them a real shot though. That sucks.

I hope they'll convert for you... but I've started this thread for this reason only, to make people aware of their unexisting "good intentions'
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02-10-2008, 12:59 AM

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02-10-2008, 01:00 AM

Originally posted by stev0

You kept promoting a program for that long while making 0 sales???

that's what i was thinking...

BUT....

what is the "respectable" cutoff ratio for any program? Cuz my cutoff might be way sooner than most folks:

1:500?
1:1000?
1:2500?
1:5000???

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02-10-2008, 01:01 AM

You talking gallery uniques, tour page, join page?
You have enough posts to post images so there is no excuse there.
Oh and not even being sure about the programs name does not help with the cause at all.

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02-10-2008, 01:06 AM

Ages ago I asked one of their reps for site access so I could get some video for promotion.

I was told no.

no? err well no traffic for you then. Jesus christ already.

Every other site I promote is happy to give me full access, hosting, and more
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02-10-2008, 01:19 AM

Originally posted by vanbest

Not even so, my traffic comes mainly from paying countries and on top of that, I've put up their codes on a site that have 100% SE's surfers, not a single trade in there, only SE's traffic and trust me, at least this kind of traffic is highly productive. Obvious I have several other tgp's/mgp's where I am sending trading based traffic, too, like everyone does, so the traffic crap is way out of question.

Was just a suggestion mate, well if you have not done so already i suggest you start looking for alternative sponsors
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02-10-2008, 01:27 AM

.......21K and not a single sale.........that's obscene dude.......I'd throw holly water at those galleries............

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02-10-2008, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

You talking gallery uniques, tour page, join page?
You have enough posts to post images so there is no excuse there.
Oh and not even being sure about the programs name does not help with the cause at all.

He is talking about his own visits. Since he didn't signed up himself, there were no sales.
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02-10-2008, 01:40 AM

I hardly send Maxcash any traffic but even counting first page only hits they look ok here for $35.00 a sale

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02-10-2008, 01:45 AM

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02-10-2008, 01:55 AM

Hit me up on icq 411516199 .
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02-10-2008, 03:19 AM

you should have sent that traffic to ClickThruCash at $0.05 per click you would have have made money from it rather than nothing

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02-10-2008, 05:15 AM

Thank you for the info, vanbest.

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02-10-2008, 05:32 AM

just means you suck.

like me pushing bangbros, with over 3000 galleries out there from over 6 years I was sending 150-200 hits to them, from my galleries getting over 600k of traffic daily..

I deleted all my galleries from them and stop promoting them.. the answer was simple.
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02-10-2008, 05:37 AM

I have had things with programs like that, just stop promoting them, and move to another program. there are plenty.

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02-10-2008, 05:41 AM

Originally posted by dav3

sounds like they had your shave rate set to 100%

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02-10-2008, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by vanbest

Yep, it's about Maxcash or Maximumcash... I've been promoting their content since October 2006 and just to see how far their incompetence goes, here are the freakin' facts: based on the stats displayed, in over 74000 (seventy four THOUSAND) raw hits and over 21000(twenty one THOUSAND) unique hits sent, still no fucking sign-ups.

Start whining and make excuses if you have something to say about this, I have the print screens, available to everyone who wants to see "your performance"

Pretty stupid thread.

I can agree that the Maxcash sites are 1000 years old, but to EXPECT a sale after XXXXXX amount of hits is fucking FOOLISH. Plenty of garbage traffic out there.

Where was the traffic from and where's the proof of shaving? I'm sure the ban hammer is getting warmed up right now.
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02-10-2008, 08:56 AM

Where is your traffic from, this wouldnt be shaving, this would be you not know ing how to convert your traffic, maybe the traffic you has wants solo girls, have you tried other sites?

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02-10-2008, 09:00 AM

Send me an email: [email protected]
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02-10-2008, 10:28 AM

Originally posted by FlexxAeon

that's what i was thinking...

BUT....

what is the "respectable" cutoff ratio for any program? Cuz my cutoff might be way sooner than most folks:

1:500?
1:1000?
1:2500?
1:5000???

Under today's internet trends were there are so many youtube style websites offering free movies I would say somewhere between 1:500 and 1:800 and sometimes more
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02-10-2008, 10:31 AM

Originally posted by DjiXas

He is talking about his own visits. Since he didn't signed up himself, there were no sales.

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02-10-2008, 10:33 AM

Originally posted by ZumberCraig

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02-10-2008, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by pornguy

I have had things with programs like that, just stop promoting them, and move to another program. there are plenty.

That was the reason why I've started this thread, so the other WM's find out about them and never waste their traffic for nothing.
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02-10-2008, 10:39 AM

Originally posted by dav3

sounds like they had your shave rate set to 100%

ok, that was fucking pretty funny...
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02-10-2008, 10:49 AM

I find it hard to believe that if a long established company WERE going to shave (and I'm speaking generally here) that they would just turn off all sale credits, a 100% shave.

It's probably more likely that you've stuffed up a link code, or they have a problem at their end which isn't properly tracking/crediting your refid.
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02-10-2008, 10:51 AM

Originally posted by Fucksakes

just means you suck.

like me pushing bangbros, with over 3000 galleries out there from over 6 years I was sending 150-200 hits to them, from my galleries getting over 600k of traffic daily..

I deleted all my galleries from them and stop promoting them.. the answer was simple.

Bangbros are in the same pot, so far the ratios with them are... consistently low but they exist... anyways, 600k of traffic and still nothing sucks more than mine...

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02-10-2008, 10:53 AM

i took this pick in the mall the other day and though it was funny
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02-10-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally posted by rowan

I find it hard to believe that if a long established company WERE going to shave (and I'm speaking generally here) that they would just turn off all sale credits, a 100% shave.

It's probably more likely that you've stuffed up a link code, or they have a problem at their end which isn't properly tracking/crediting your refid.

I hear you, I thought about this too but after several attempts to get in touch with them I've realize that their customer service is BS. Any answers? Nothing!
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02-10-2008, 10:59 AM

Originally posted by xratedJ

i took this pick in the mall the other day and though it was funny

it is... LOL! they used the "for him" style!
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02-10-2008, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by Satan

Where is your traffic from, this wouldnt be shaving, this would be you not know ing how to convert your traffic, maybe the traffic you has wants solo girls, have you tried other sites?

I've stayed within the niche I was promoting, isn't it enough?
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02-10-2008, 11:21 AM

Originally posted by Davy

Thank you for the info, vanbest.

You welcome, be aware of them... so far I haven't heard anything from those pussy-shavers, I am still interested about their point of view. With respect to the facts, there should be more people like me in the same situation but still no answers from maxcash'ers
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02-10-2008, 11:41 AM

still no answers ... and that on a sunday
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02-10-2008, 11:45 AM

Why would they answer? This thread isn't geared toward a "hey help me out here" type response. You're trying to start some one sided drama.

You can post images - but you didn't.
You can post url's of the pages where you're "sending" traffic to them - but don't.

Why not try with putting your ducks in a row first - then ask folks to grab their pitchforks and torches to storm the barn...

Loading a site on a console and "sending traffic" - especially to a sponsor isn't the same thing - are you doing that?

Are you geo-targeting worthless gallery traffic to their tours and expecting a sale from traffic even your link partners wouldn't want?

I ain't saying you're doing it, but if you're linking galleries to their tours, chances are some of your link trades are doing the same thing so of course your uniques/raws would be disproportional - they just saw the same tours from the site they were at before being "sent" to your site and didn't join then either.
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02-10-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by vanbest

Not even so, my traffic comes mainly from paying countries and on top of that, I've put up their codes on a site that have 100% SE's surfers, not a single trade in there, only SE's traffic and trust me, at least this kind of traffic is highly productive. Obvious I have several other tgp's/mgp's where I am sending trading based traffic, too, like everyone does, so the traffic crap is way out of question.

Uh se traffic can be totally worthless if you use it wrong. It's no magic traffic or anything. If you're sending people looking for big tits to a small tit sponsor you will have shit ratio's.

So many people think their site has awesome traffic because it gets some random se traffic for 40 different terms. That's nothing better than clicked trade traffic.
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02-10-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by FlexxAeon

that's what i was thinking...

BUT....

what is the "respectable" cutoff ratio for any program? Cuz my cutoff might be way sooner than most folks:

1:500?
1:1000?
1:2500?
1:5000???

I'd say higher than that...

I've sent 5000 uniques to a program one day and 0 sales, then the next it converts at 1:500. I don't know what could possibly affect sales like that, always figured it must be processing or something. But it's unpredictable as hell.
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02-11-2008, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by stev0

I'd say higher than that...

I've sent 5000 uniques to a program one day and 0 sales, then the next it converts at 1:500. I don't know what could possibly affect sales like that, always figured it must be processing or something. But it's unpredictable as hell.

It is, you're right, one pay period I have 1:250 and another one way much higher ratios... but not with Maxcash, that's for sure!!!
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02-11-2008, 04:53 AM

vanbest ~ Not gonna get into your drama here. I have ONE email from you and it came in this weekend. I'll respond to you in a bit. If you're looking to piss, I can't help ya.

It would seem pretty obvious that if you are having the same troubles with another sponsor and both sponsors have been around a while and are reputable, that you should take a look at how you are sending traffic (as little as it may be). And a quick hint- - if you were to ask for help rather than sending me an email telling me MC sucks and you've posted it, well............

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02-11-2008, 05:12 AM

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vanbest ~ Not gonna get into your drama here. I have ONE email from you and it came in this weekend. I'll respond to you in a bit. If you're looking to piss, I can't help ya.

It would seem pretty obvious that if you are having the same troubles with another sponsor and both sponsors have been around a while and are reputable, that you should take a look at how you are sending traffic (as little as it may be). And a quick hint- - if you were to ask for help rather than sending me an email telling me MC sucks and you've posted it, well............

Aly

Just demand that he post his proof. You have a nearly 2 page thread saying you shave. That is not going to go away and honestly do you think most are going to read the whole thing to find your one small response to all of this buried in the pile of comments?

More people need to know how to communicate properly and not make accusations in public without any proof. GFY really should be a last resort place to post issues of support unless you know for a fact that they are screwing people.

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02-11-2008, 05:17 AM

Another factor you have to think of is this: Now that there are so many "webmasters" out there...there is a great possibility that the traffic you are sending has already been there through another affiliates code. And if they have been there already they are cookied with that code and the original webmaster gets the sale. I see that happen a lot. Hell, I'm the recipient of a lot of that kind of love. That's why I always try to be the firstest with the mostest.

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02-11-2008, 05:18 AM

Originally posted by After Shock Media

Just demand that he post his proof. You have a nearly 2 page thread saying you shave. That is not going to go away and honestly do you think most are going to read the whole thing to find your one small response to all of this buried in the pile of comments?

More people need to know how to communicate properly and not make accusations in public without any proof. GFY really should be a last resort place to post issues of support unless you know for a fact that they are screwing people.

I think you missed my first sentence ; )
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