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Old 02-05-2008, 01:02 AM   #1
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US "defense" Budget: $515.4B... (not including Iraq or Afghanistan)

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Old 02-05-2008, 01:09 AM   #2
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That is to bad...it should be more...to grow our military back to the size that it should be.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:16 AM   #3
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For that kind of money we could buy everyone in the world a fucking car with a driver and make friends out of our enemies.
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Old 02-05-2008, 01:20 AM   #4
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Old 02-05-2008, 03:00 AM   #6
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And yet we only had a handful of jets to patrol and use during 911?

Really makes you wonder... The jets they sent to intercept the planes weren't even armed because all that shit was put away and no time to arm them... So they were going to ram the plane and eject...

WTF???

What kind of Air Force do we have? We don't have planes with ammunition and missiles loaded sitting ready to go at all times? Jesus Fucking Christ Almighty! If I was running Canada I would have invaded the USA a long time ago.
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And yet we only had a handful of jets to patrol and use during 911?

Really makes you wonder... The jets they sent to intercept the planes weren't even armed because all that shit was put away and no time to arm them... So they were going to ram the plane and eject...

WTF???

What kind of Air Force do we have? We don't have planes with ammunition and missiles loaded sitting ready to go at all times? Jesus Fucking Christ Almighty! If I was running Canada I would have invaded the USA a long time ago.
Well... money can't buy everything.
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:26 AM   #8
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Old 02-05-2008, 04:32 AM   #9
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:04 AM   #10
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Old 02-05-2008, 05:36 AM   #11
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Don´t worry guys, this is just for peace and democracy of the free world.. ;)

What the things that we have to hear about!!!
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For that kind of money we could buy everyone in the world a fucking car with a driver and make friends out of our enemies.
Uh, no.

You only make friends with Islamofascists if you convert to Islam and Sharia law.

Are you ready to do that?

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Old 02-05-2008, 07:30 AM   #13
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US "defense" Budget: $515.4B... (not including Iraq or Afghanistan)
How do you think Ronald Reagan ended the cold war? He spent the Soviets into the ground.

Today, terrorism is equally dangerous, for different reasons.

Like the Nazis, the Soviets were armed to the max, but they had a fragile ideology and economy. And, during the cold war, WMD were not easily obtained by individuals.

Today, Islamofascism is a worldwide movement, well funded by oil and drug profits, and WMD are easily obtained.

It is very sad that some folks will only be convinced after another 9/11 catastrophe. Bin Laden has promised a bigger bang in the future.

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How do you think Ronald Reagan ended the cold war?
He didn't.
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"The Cold War drew to a close in the late 1980s following Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev's summit conferences with United States President Ronald Reagan, as well as Gorbachev's launching of reform programs: perestroika and glasnost. Reagan has been credited with having won the cold war with the Soviet Union.[1] The Soviet Union consequently ceded power over Eastern Europe and was dissolved in 1991."

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why do they call it Defense budget ?????
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:15 AM   #17
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That is to bad...it should be more...to grow our military back to the size that it should be.
Big problems with this idea.

1. You don't make cars so the Japs, Koreans, Mexicans and everyone who does make cars would welcome the idea. You do make guns, tanks and planes. So lots of profit to be had by the guys paying for the election show you're currently running. And if you think the money spent to get elected, is to help you you're not thinking a lot.

Lot's of profit, control and hype in fear. America needs an enemy.

As for theking thinking spending more is the answer, show the level of brains of your average US ex soldier. Or is he just stupid?
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:24 AM   #18
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Commentary: Why the debt crisis is now the greatest threat to the American republic.

"U.S. spending for its military establishment during the current fiscal year (2008), conservatively calculated, to at least $1.1 trillion."
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Old 02-05-2008, 08:27 AM   #19
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Big problems with this idea.

1. You don't make cars so the Japs, Koreans, Mexicans and everyone who does make cars would welcome the idea. You do make guns, tanks and planes. So lots of profit to be had by the guys paying for the election show you're currently running. And if you think the money spent to get elected, is to help you you're not thinking a lot.

Lot's of profit, control and hype in fear. America needs an enemy.

As for theking thinking spending more is the answer, show the level of brains of your average US ex soldier. Or is he just stupid?
Pigshit.
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why do they call it Defense budget ?????
Easy answer...sport...because it is to defend America's national interests...which is to say...to remain the number one influential/dominant country on the earth.
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I just called Robert Gates and he told me on your objection (and Hugo Chavez's) they will be renaming their group to this:

The Offense Department of the Imperialistic Baby Killers of America

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I know places where people don't mind. (RE: US military spending)

Ex: Wichita, Rapid City, Maryland, D.C.
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heh whats the big deal, war has always been on top of everyones minds ever since the age of time. there will never be world peace, infact i think the most peaceful times of our lifetimes was the 90's when usa ruled the world dominantly.

Its strange how we are now facing times and strategic geopolitical positions similar to that of pre 1914.


bring on world war 3!!
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Thank god the United States military was there to save this baby after it was blown up by terrorists who don't have the balls to take on our military directly and have resorted to attacking women and children.

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Thank god the United States military was there to save this baby after it was blown up by terrorists who don't have the balls to take on our military directly and have resorted to attacking women and children.

Your welcome.
I second that

US admits killing Iraqi civilians - Feb. 4th 2008
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Damn...I am just shocked to learn that civilians in a combat zone are killed. I have never heard of this happening before the conflict in Iraq. BTW...you are aware that every Iraqi killed is a civilian...aren't you..
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The men who run the U.S. Defense Department, said Deputy Defense Secretary Roswell L. Gilpatric in a recent speech, "sometimes feel like a Gulliver among the Lilliputians." Spending upward of $50 billion a year, nearly 10% of the entire gross national product, the Defense Department is an economic giant that dwarfs the biggest of corporations. Its decisions on where and how to spend its money can mean prosperity or pinch for business firms, cities and entire regions.
The Piano Impact. The explosive postwar prosperity of California has largely resulted from a widening share of the Pentagon's contract awards. California currently accounts for 24% of the dollar value of all prime defense contracts, as against 14% a decade ago and less than 10% during World War II. The defense business concentrated along Route 128 in the Boston area has enabled Massachusetts to recover from the textile industry's migration to the South. But Midwest defense business has dwindled drastically, leaving pockets of economic slack and high unemployment. Five Great Lakes states, Ohio, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan and Wisconsin, produced 32% of the nation's defense output during World War II; today the figure is a meager 12%. During that span, Michigan's share of total defense production has plummeted from 10.5% to 2.7%, and the state for several years has been in financial distress.
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Clinton attacked more countries and set up bases in more countries than Bush did... just a thought..
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Pigshit.
Shows the brains of your average soldier. Thanks for being a great example.

Give a moron a gun and he thinks he amounts to something.

As for the US remaining top dog in the world, look around buddy at all the countries on the up. It will be a short reign.
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Your welcome.
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Shows the brains of your average soldier. Thanks for being a great example.

Give a moron a gun and he thinks he amounts to something.

As for the US remaining top dog in the world, look around buddy at all the countries on the up. It will be a short reign.
You will not live long enough to see the US be anything other than top dog...which pleases me...thank you very much.
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You will not live long enough to see the US be anything other than top dog...which pleases me...thank you very much.
You'd think with being on top, that people would look up to you...
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You will not live long enough to see the US be anything other than top dog...which pleases me...thank you very much.
Why does it please you?
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