Do you think tube sites actually make money? - GoFuckYourself.com

XMaster · 02-04-2008, 07:18 PM

I dont think so. The question is : When will they fall down?

TDF · 02-04-2008, 07:19 PM

no...they are all born to burn bandwith

jollyperv · 02-04-2008, 07:21 PM

Well the big ones must be making at least enough to break even, I mean they're still there, day in day out

After Shock Media · 02-04-2008, 07:23 PM

I will say for sure that tube sites must be one of the best things to happen to tube sites since well ever.

fuzebox · 02-04-2008, 07:25 PM

yes, they do.

comeplay · 02-04-2008, 07:26 PM

not redtube! not today anyway!

Bojangles · 02-04-2008, 07:26 PM

They have to be making something. Not much, though.

Bojangles · 02-04-2008, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by comeplay

not redtube! not today anyway!

tony286 · 02-04-2008, 07:29 PM

When advertisers go back to cpa instead cpc because they are not get their moneys worth. They will have a very hard time.

Drake · 02-04-2008, 07:32 PM

They must but the profit margin is probably very slim.

dougeetx · 02-04-2008, 07:47 PM

As the former owner of VideoSlacker.com and the owner of the upcoming FightClubTube.com , I can tell you yes we do make money! When VideoSlacker.com had no porn on it, I made a couple thousand a month on google adsense. Then, when I added adult clips, I made money from affiliate and adult dating programs! It's really easy to make money with tube sites especially when there are so many porn sites that want to trade traffic with us! I'll be making money with FightClubTube.com in a couple of months promoting the dating on Loaded Cash.

Kard63 · 02-04-2008, 07:55 PM

I think they do well

Miguel T · 02-04-2008, 07:58 PM

I really hope they end up soon!!!

XMaster · 02-04-2008, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dougeetx

As the former owner of VideoSlacker.com and the owner of the upcoming FightClubTube.com , I can tell you yes we do make money! When VideoSlacker.com had no porn on it, I made a couple thousand a month on google adsense. Then, when I added adult clips, I made money from affiliate and adult dating programs! It's really easy to make money with tube sites especially when there are so many porn sites that want to trade traffic with us! I'll be making money with FightClubTube.com in a couple of months promoting the dating on Loaded Cash.

Interesting...but since you allow porn on your website, is your profit margin worse or better?

WarChild · 02-04-2008, 08:05 PM

Yes they do make money, and an awful lot too.

Vick! · 02-04-2008, 10:04 PM

They do. IMO .. and bandwidth is becoming cheaper with every passing day .. so, their ROI will increase with time. I don't see them dying for any reason, not soon not later.

MikesTraffic · 02-04-2008, 10:07 PM

They make plenty of money, once you break a certain traffic barrier....you have to be able to front the money to pay the bills until you get to a certain daily traffic number....cause of course, the more traffic the more you can charge, and once you get to a break even point everything else is profit. With bandwidth getting cheaper and cheaper not to mention other variables like better compression etc porn tubes aren't going to go anywhere. They will be the new TGP.....that is if they arent already considered one

SomeCreep · 02-04-2008, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by XMaster

I dont think so. The question is : When will they fall down?

They will never fall down, because they do not have legs to stand on, like us human beings. Websites are nothing more than a collection of binary data interpreted by your computer.

DirtyProfits · 02-04-2008, 10:11 PM

I think people who run tube sites do not run them only for direct profit. There are many other ways they can profit. Affiliate programs can steal the traffic from tgps and when tgps die they can start cashing in. They can use them for branding, and many other things.

Lamis · 02-04-2008, 10:23 PM

The former owner of Shufuni was just breaking even.... He sold the site for 20K..

the new owner of Shufuni is a motherfucker who posts in this forum, and he doesn't make any money..

Fap · 02-04-2008, 10:58 PM

They definitly do.. think about it, it doesnt cost them money to produce the content and they are getting high amounts of traffic

xxxjay · 02-04-2008, 11:29 PM

Short answer = NO

Reasons: attracts the lowest form of surfer, most aren't monetized properly, the videos are so long that the user blows his wad, the bandwidth it through the roof.

99% of tubesites are being built for sale but will never be sold.

woj · 02-04-2008, 11:36 PM

They gotta be making a profit, surfers are pretty worthless, burns a lot of bw, but still a profit is being made I would think...

Drake · 02-04-2008, 11:56 PM

The article below is about YouPorn.com (now ranked 35 on Alexa; ranked 51 when the article was written).

Revenue for it was $120,000 per month (I'd imagine the bandwidth expense eats up a huge chunk of that - maybe somebody here can do the approx calculations). These numbers quoted when trying to sell the tube site to Vivid for $20 million, so they're probably legit.

http://www.portfolio.com/culture-lif...nment-Profile#

Also from the article about pornotube:

"She explains that despite PornoTube’s 15 million monthly visitors, the website’s parent company, Adult Entertainment Broadcast Network, views it as a marketing expense, not a profit center."

RedShoe · 02-05-2008, 12:10 AM

I won't say who, but there is one poster in this thread that you ALL should be listening to. If says it makes money, then it does. I listened and made money on tube and then offered to sale TEVS at a discount to our affiliates.

I for one see it happening first hand. We've been offering TEVS at a discount and people have been buying it, opening tube sites and our sales have increased.

See Sig for the TEVS details.

Violetta · 02-05-2008, 12:12 AM

as much as tgp's and blogs unless you have something very special!

AnneT · 02-05-2008, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Short answer = NO

Reasons: attracts the lowest form of surfer, most aren't monetized properly, the videos are so long that the user blows his wad, the bandwidth it through the roof.

99% of tubesites are being built for sale but will never be sold.

I don't think they would sell many memberships but how about dating/cams/drugs etc. Free signups + incredibly cheap BW. Gotta be money in it especially for people already buying BW on a massive scale.

Gets me thinking...

the real magoo · 02-05-2008, 01:21 AM

Not even youtube is making any money.
Its all being paid for by the shareholders.
Once the shares are dropping, its bye bye youtube.

flashfire · 02-05-2008, 02:20 AM

tube sites make huge coin

WWC · 02-05-2008, 03:34 AM

Tube sites are the way of the future of gallery pages...just in 1 big Tube site...every affiliate program will have 1 big tube site for all their sites combined....just understand your past and you'll know your future...think about it....every day programs build and build and build more and more and more pages of free promo vid pages ...how much more can everyone build? mmmmmm....work smarter not harder.....see you guys at xbiz Content is king panel wed 11am :-)

kane · 02-05-2008, 03:39 AM

I have always said tube sites are a business model that is born to fail. It has got to be very hard to sell memberships to surfers when they can get hours of free porn updated daily right on your site. This limits the advertising and revenue options the sites have and I feel they will eventually stagnate. You can only sell dating sites to so many people. All the return visitors will ignore them and there with limited advertising opportunities it will kill you in the long run. If your surfers stop clicking ads for dating, cams and toys, then what?

It's no surprise that many of the big tube sites are for sale. They want to try to cash in while they can and not have to worry about making money or dealing with lawsuits or whatever 1,2 ,3 years or more down the line.

To me this is the biggest factor in why they will eventually fail. Over the weekend I was at a big annual superbowl party I go to. A friend of mine and I are talking and he was saying how he and the guys at his work will sit around at lunch and surf redtube almost every day. They look for crazy scenes and have a good laugh. he then says, " How are sites like that effecting your business?" I tell him I haven't personally seen any problems, but I can see trouble on the horizon. He then says, "me and four of the guys I work with all used to have memberships to different sites. We have all canceled and probably would never join again." That says it all. Every day people find those sites and cancel memberships. If they are canceling because they found your site for free, why would they then join another site that is advertising on your tube site? Eventually you run out of paying customers and advertising options and all you are left with is a nice big bandwidth bill and tons of freeloaders on your site.

Just my 2cents.

Davy · 02-05-2008, 03:41 AM

The bigger ones charge $1000 a day and more for their ads.
If companies like for example Southern-charms stopped buying those ads, I could imagine that they get in trouble.
I have never promoted dating sponsors, so I can't say how much they make from it.

kane · 02-05-2008, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WWC-Raffi

Tube sites are the way of the future of gallery pages...just in 1 big Tube site...every affiliate program will have 1 big tube site for all their sites combined....just understand your past and you'll know your future...think about it....every day programs build and build and build more and more and more pages of free promo vid pages ...how much more can everyone build? mmmmmm....work smarter not harder.....see you guys at xbiz Content is king panel wed 11am :-)

I think there is a huge difference though between a tube site that offers small clips like you would find on a gallery or free site and the sites that offer 30-45 minute clips.

I just went to youporn and saw that there is 75 minutes worth of free porn movies right on the front page. A surfer just hit the mother load.

Davy · 02-05-2008, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

I have always said tube sites are a business model that is born to fail. It has got to be very hard to sell memberships to surfers when they can get hours of free porn updated daily right on your site. This limits the advertising and revenue options the sites have and I feel they will eventually stagnate. You can only sell dating sites to so many people. All the return visitors will ignore them and there with limited advertising opportunities it will kill you in the long run. If your surfers stop clicking ads for dating, cams and toys, then what?

There IS a niche for tube sites: amateur uploads. They will be a tough competitor for the adult amateur porn communities that currently make their $$$ by charging their members to download videos.

kane · 02-05-2008, 03:47 AM

If you click on the most views link on youporn you go to a page that has over 2 hours of video on it. Next to that they are advertising a site that offers unlimited DVD downloads. Why would I buy a membership to a DVD site when I can get between 75-120 minutes of free porn on this site everyday?

kane · 02-05-2008, 03:49 AM

If you click on the most views link on youporn you go to a page that has over 2 hours of video on it. Next to that they are advertising a site that offers unlimited DVD downloads. Why would I buy a membership to a DVD site when I can get between 75-120 minutes of free porn on this site everyday?

Isolated · 02-05-2008, 03:51 AM

I think this year we'll be seeing more and more tube site up. As for making money im not really sure but someone will eventually find a way to make money from it. And guess what? Everydody will start doing it.

XMaster · 02-05-2008, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike33

Revenue for it was $120,000 per month (I'd imagine the bandwidth expense eats up a huge chunk of that - maybe somebody here can do the approx calculations). "

Tanks for this interesting article. Let's do some maths:

~0,01 Mbps per user
500.000 users a day (accroding this article in mai 2006)

= 5000 Mbps of bandwidth

So over $24 per mbps they lose money.

Now all depends of how much they pay for 1 mbps of bandwidth but profit margin must be very slim.

hjnet · 02-05-2008, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by xxxjay

Short answer = NO

Reasons: attracts the lowest form of surfer, most aren't monetized properly, the videos are so long that the user blows his wad, the bandwidth it through the roof.

99% of tubesites are being built for sale but will never be sold.

That would me my guess too

AnneT · 02-05-2008, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by XMaster

Tanks for this interesting article. Let's do some maths:

~0,01 Mbps per user
500.000 users a day (accroding this article in mai 2006)

= 5000 Mbps of bandwidth

So over $24 per mbps they lose money.

Now all depends of how much they pay for 1 mbps of bandwidth but profit margin must be very slim.

On 5000 Mbps I think you could do better than $24. In fact on those figures the margin looks pretty healthy!

Diligent · 02-05-2008, 07:55 AM

Shit.. 5Gbps needed continuously (of course) in the above example by XMaster... that should be friggin' frightening enough for more losers to start up "illegal" tubes.

Cost per month? Quoting a Media/Stream host below: ( http://www.streamzilla.eu/compare-dedicated.html )

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Originally Posted by StreamZilla

Yearly subscription, price per month:

"Ultimate": ? 36950

... and that's their top-of-the-line server/hosting, allowing a maximum of 4Gbps.

Konda · 02-05-2008, 10:10 AM

You can get bandwith on video servers for tube sites for like $8 per Mbit.

Andy Servers4Less · 02-05-2008, 10:19 AM

Yes, they do

tony286 · 02-05-2008, 10:20 AM

I think first legal tubes will start to die because if someone is going to a tube looking for free porn and they find a site full of 2 min clips.They are going to keep searching for tubes with the full scenes. I think there will be more and more of them until governments around the world will start to crack down. Porn has survived for so long because it was under the counter, in the store with the blacked out windows. Like I said a politician doesnt understand a tgp or a bt or p2p but clicking on a tube site my grandmother can do that. Then the industry will cry why are they picking on us. That police yourselves thing we just dont get it.

tony286 · 02-05-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Davy

The bigger ones charge $1000 a day and more for their ads.
If companies like for example Southern-charms stopped buying those ads, I could imagine that they get in trouble.
I have never promoted dating sponsors, so I can't say how much they make from it.

They are fucking stupid for buying ads there in the first place.It supports content theft and from a business stand point your join my site ad is next to 16-25 min porn scenes why is someone going to join your site. People think it has traffic so it has to be worth something which isnt necessarily so.

XMaster · 02-05-2008, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Konda

You can get bandwith on video servers for tube sites for like $8 per Mbit.

really?

dougeetx · 02-05-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by XMaster

Interesting...but since you allow porn on your website, is your profit margin worse or better?

Profit margin is much better.

Konda · 02-05-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by XMaster

really?

Yes,

I know at least 2 companies that offer servers for this type of bandwith for $799 with 100Mbit unmetered. So thats $8 per Mbit including server.

tony286 · 02-05-2008, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by dougeetx

Profit margin is much better.

Then why did you sell if it was so great?

tiger · 02-05-2008, 10:39 AM

By the end of this year or the start of next year they will start to evolve into real sites with actual business models. The ones that survive won't give away the farm and they will obtain their content from legitimate sources.

02-04-2008, 07:18 PM	#1
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02-04-2008, 07:19 PM	#2
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02-04-2008, 07:23 PM	#4
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02-04-2008, 07:47 PM	#11
dougeetx Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 6,163	As the former owner of VideoSlacker.com and the owner of the upcoming FightClubTube.com , I can tell you yes we do make money! When VideoSlacker.com had no porn on it, I made a couple thousand a month on google adsense. Then, when I added adult clips, I made money from affiliate and adult dating programs! It's really easy to make money with tube sites especially when there are so many porn sites that want to trade traffic with us! I'll be making money with FightClubTube.com in a couple of months promoting the dating on Loaded Cash. __________________ Coming Soon! A NEW revolution in black adult social networking!

02-04-2008, 07:21 PM	#3
jollyperv Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: NYC Posts: 3,927	Well the big ones must be making at least enough to break even, I mean they're still there, day in day out

02-04-2008, 07:25 PM	#5
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Bojangles Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 5,419	They have to be making something. Not much, though.

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tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	When advertisers go back to cpa instead cpc because they are not get their moneys worth. They will have a very hard time.

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Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	They must but the profit margin is probably very slim.

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Vick! Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 20 00'24.00" N, 75 09'00.00 W Posts: 6,882	They do. IMO .. and bandwidth is becoming cheaper with every passing day .. so, their ROI will increase with time. I don't see them dying for any reason, not soon not later. __________________ Affordable Quality Web Hosting

02-04-2008, 10:07 PM	#17
MikesTraffic Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Montgomery, Alabama Posts: 1,992	They make plenty of money, once you break a certain traffic barrier....you have to be able to front the money to pay the bills until you get to a certain daily traffic number....cause of course, the more traffic the more you can charge, and once you get to a break even point everything else is profit. With bandwidth getting cheaper and cheaper not to mention other variables like better compression etc porn tubes aren't going to go anywhere. They will be the new TGP.....that is if they arent already considered one __________________ Fortinet GURU

02-04-2008, 10:11 PM	#19
DirtyProfits Confirmed User Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,885	I think people who run tube sites do not run them only for direct profit. There are many other ways they can profit. Affiliate programs can steal the traffic from tgps and when tgps die they can start cashing in. They can use them for branding, and many other things.

02-04-2008, 10:23 PM	#20
Lamis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 961	The former owner of Shufuni was just breaking even.... He sold the site for 20K.. the new owner of Shufuni is a motherfucker who posts in this forum, and he doesn't make any money..

02-04-2008, 10:58 PM	#21
Fap Just Du It Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 12,094	They definitly do.. think about it, it doesnt cost them money to produce the content and they are getting high amounts of traffic

02-04-2008, 11:29 PM	#22
xxxjay Tube groupie. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: LoScandalous, CA Posts: 13,482	Short answer = NO Reasons: attracts the lowest form of surfer, most aren't monetized properly, the videos are so long that the user blows his wad, the bandwidth it through the roof. 99% of tubesites are being built for sale but will never be sold. __________________ http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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02-04-2008, 11:56 PM	#24
Drake Hello world! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 12,508	The article below is about YouPorn.com (now ranked 35 on Alexa; ranked 51 when the article was written). Revenue for it was $120,000 per month (I'd imagine the bandwidth expense eats up a huge chunk of that - maybe somebody here can do the approx calculations). These numbers quoted when trying to sell the tube site to Vivid for $20 million, so they're probably legit. http://www.portfolio.com/culture-lif...nment-Profile# Also from the article about pornotube: "She explains that despite PornoTube’s 15 million monthly visitors, the website’s parent company, Adult Entertainment Broadcast Network, views it as a marketing expense, not a profit center."

02-05-2008, 12:10 AM	#25
RedShoe 赤い靴 call me 202-456-1111 Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: The Valley Posts: 14,831	I won't say who, but there is one poster in this thread that you ALL should be listening to. If says it makes money, then it does. I listened and made money on tube and then offered to sale TEVS at a discount to our affiliates. I for one see it happening first hand. We've been offering TEVS at a discount and people have been buying it, opening tube sites and our sales have increased. See Sig for the TEVS details. __________________ SPECIALTY COSTUMES • PROPS • FX Superheroes • Monsters • Robots PM for details For any manufacturing needs. Adult or otherwise. aka BonsHigh on Insta Bonsai weed plants

02-05-2008, 12:12 AM	#26
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02-05-2008, 01:21 AM	#28
the real magoo So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: EU Posts: 1,637	Not even youtube is making any money. Its all being paid for by the shareholders. Once the shares are dropping, its bye bye youtube.

02-05-2008, 02:20 AM	#29
flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	tube sites make huge coin

02-05-2008, 03:34 AM	#30
WWC #1 Adult Content Provider Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Glendale, Ca Posts: 11,577	Tube sites are the way of the future of gallery pages...just in 1 big Tube site...every affiliate program will have 1 big tube site for all their sites combined....just understand your past and you'll know your future...think about it....every day programs build and build and build more and more and more pages of free promo vid pages ...how much more can everyone build? mmmmmm....work smarter not harder.....see you guys at xbiz Content is king panel wed 11am :-) __________________ [email protected] ICQ : 494-353-230 Follow WWC on Twitter CLICK HERE! " CONTENT PROVIDER OF THE YEAR! " ~ 2007 , 2008 & 2009 XBIZ AWARDS WINNER! .......www.WorldWideContent.com / www.WorldWideFeeds.com...... WWC Nominated " Content Licensor of The Year " 2010 XBiz Awards !!!

02-05-2008, 03:39 AM	#31
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	I have always said tube sites are a business model that is born to fail. It has got to be very hard to sell memberships to surfers when they can get hours of free porn updated daily right on your site. This limits the advertising and revenue options the sites have and I feel they will eventually stagnate. You can only sell dating sites to so many people. All the return visitors will ignore them and there with limited advertising opportunities it will kill you in the long run. If your surfers stop clicking ads for dating, cams and toys, then what? It's no surprise that many of the big tube sites are for sale. They want to try to cash in while they can and not have to worry about making money or dealing with lawsuits or whatever 1,2 ,3 years or more down the line. To me this is the biggest factor in why they will eventually fail. Over the weekend I was at a big annual superbowl party I go to. A friend of mine and I are talking and he was saying how he and the guys at his work will sit around at lunch and surf redtube almost every day. They look for crazy scenes and have a good laugh. he then says, " How are sites like that effecting your business?" I tell him I haven't personally seen any problems, but I can see trouble on the horizon. He then says, "me and four of the guys I work with all used to have memberships to different sites. We have all canceled and probably would never join again." That says it all. Every day people find those sites and cancel memberships. If they are canceling because they found your site for free, why would they then join another site that is advertising on your tube site? Eventually you run out of paying customers and advertising options and all you are left with is a nice big bandwidth bill and tons of freeloaders on your site. Just my 2cents.

02-05-2008, 03:41 AM	#32
Davy Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,323	The bigger ones charge $1000 a day and more for their ads. If companies like for example Southern-charms stopped buying those ads, I could imagine that they get in trouble. I have never promoted dating sponsors, so I can't say how much they make from it.

02-05-2008, 03:47 AM	#35
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	If you click on the most views link on youporn you go to a page that has over 2 hours of video on it. Next to that they are advertising a site that offers unlimited DVD downloads. Why would I buy a membership to a DVD site when I can get between 75-120 minutes of free porn on this site everyday?

02-05-2008, 03:49 AM	#36
kane Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: portland, OR Posts: 20,684	If you click on the most views link on youporn you go to a page that has over 2 hours of video on it. Next to that they are advertising a site that offers unlimited DVD downloads. Why would I buy a membership to a DVD site when I can get between 75-120 minutes of free porn on this site everyday?

02-05-2008, 03:51 AM	#37
Isolated Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: USA Posts: 41	I think this year we'll be seeing more and more tube site up. As for making money im not really sure but someone will eventually find a way to make money from it. And guess what? Everydody will start doing it.

02-05-2008, 10:10 AM	#42
Konda ... Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 2,280	You can get bandwith on video servers for tube sites for like $8 per Mbit.

02-05-2008, 10:19 AM	#43
Andy Servers4Less Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 922	Yes, they do __________________ Andy Servers4Less www.ServersForLess.com ICQ: 412-203-056 DUAL QUAD CORES W/100 Mbps UNMETERED- $799/ month!!

02-05-2008, 10:20 AM	#44
tony286 lurker Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: atlanta Posts: 57,021	I think first legal tubes will start to die because if someone is going to a tube looking for free porn and they find a site full of 2 min clips.They are going to keep searching for tubes with the full scenes. I think there will be more and more of them until governments around the world will start to crack down. Porn has survived for so long because it was under the counter, in the store with the blacked out windows. Like I said a politician doesnt understand a tgp or a bt or p2p but clicking on a tube site my grandmother can do that. Then the industry will cry why are they picking on us. That police yourselves thing we just dont get it.

02-05-2008, 10:39 AM	#50
tiger Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 6,986	By the end of this year or the start of next year they will start to evolve into real sites with actual business models. The ones that survive won't give away the farm and they will obtain their content from legitimate sources. __________________