REAL ID has arrived in America

[Vendot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMHxJ...eature=related

This freaks me out..... what the hell is it? Anyone else heard about this?

[notoldschool]

quiet, Britney is talking about her dad.

[IllTestYourGirls]

How about this?

FBI wants palm prints, eye scans, tattoo mapping
http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/02/04/f...ics/index.html

[MrJackMeHoff]

Portions of the Real ID Act pertaining to states were scheduled to take effect on May 11, 2008, three years after the law passed, but the deadline had been extended to December 31, 2009. On January 11, 2008, it was announced the deadline has been extended again, until 2011, in hopes of gaining more support from states.

FYI most the "cool" states have already written laws localy to deny this from ever happening...

[IllTestYourGirls]

Lots of problems with the cool states writing local laws to deny. First federal law overrules state laws. Second, what happens when you try to travel? You can no longer get on a plane without your papers, I mean, National ID.

The problems with travel do not stop there. Say I live in a state where I do not need my papers. Then I travel by car to another state that requires you to have your papers. Some states may even require you to swipe your ID when you pass through toll booths. You are no longer free to travel your own country.

The law needs to be challenged constitutionally for anything real to stop it from happening.

Portions of the Real ID Act pertaining to states were scheduled to take effect on May 11, 2008, three years after the law passed, but the deadline had been extended to December 31, 2009. On January 11, 2008, it was announced the deadline has been extended again, until 2011, in hopes of gaining more support from states.

FYI most the "cool" states have already written laws localy to deny this from ever happening...

[slapass]

What type of stuff are you guys into that a national id would be a big deal? I travel a lot and my concern is more about losing my ID's then trying to avoid them.

[BradM]

I really could care less. I don't get the hype behind "big brother" stuff.

[GatorB]

I really could care less. I don't get the hype behind "big brother" stuff.

It's called STATES rights. Real ID is UN-Constitutional. It serves no purpose other than for the government to keep track of ALL it's people. It won't prevent one terrorist attack.

I think Thomas Jeferson has the right idea

"But, when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object, evinces a design to reduce [the people] under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security."

I think it's getting close to doing some "scorched earth" policy on our government and start the fuck over.

[xmas13]

In a country with a corrupt justice and widening wealth gap, it should be a concern. America is its own worst enemy.

[Voodoo]

Only a terrorist doesn't carry one.

[F-U-Jimmy]

What a dick head " keep my privacy confidential " This isn't even a language, sound like another fucking Bush idiot..

[Voodoo]

They can force me to carry one... at the same time... they can give me the VChip. That'll be when I'm cold, dead and rotting.

[Voodoo]

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE


http://www.gemworld.com/USA-Unalienable.htm

Everyone should read this.

[xmas13]

John Martorano committed more than 20 murders, is FREE to walk on the streets and even received taxpayer money. Thank you FBI.

Where is the FBI when the American people want Dick Cheney impeached?

A Black man stealing a tv will be jailed for a decade, a White man will receive a fine. It's justice in America today. One passport, but profiling according to your social class, race or origins. Sucks to be American but poor, Black or from the Middle East.

Come on, what can you expect from such a corrupt system, and government media praising hitmen (http://60minutes.yahoo.com/segment/132/the_executioner)?

[xmas13]

Tens of millions of illegal immigrants live in the States.

If the FBI and its counterparts are such fabulous organizations, how did this happen?

They can't secure one border and they want to secure the world?

[Harry Red]

Tens of millions of illegal immigrants live in the States.
They can't secure one border and they want to secure the world?

Forget the world then. It'll carry on with out US supervising.
Better build a Great South Wall on Mex border.

[jollyperv]

A Black man stealing a tv will be jailed for a decade, a White man will receive a fine. It's justice in America today.

Gimme a fucking break

[slapass]

This is the dumbest shit I have read in a long time on GFY. You have ID now. 90% of the time you are in your own city, state etc and can be ID'd at any minute so the big deal of police or federal agencies being able to do this on a national scale?

Yeah GatorB we should overthrow the govt over this.... travel a bit my friend, the US is not at all a bad place to live.

[IllTestYourGirls]

I am not forced to carry my ID anywhere. And you mention states doing it, and then flame gator for stating states rights?

And just because there parts of the world you have traveled are shit, does not mean the USA show lower their liberties to compete with the shittiness of other countries.

This is the dumbest shit I have read in a long time on GFY. You have ID now. 90% of the time you are in your own city, state etc and can be ID'd at any minute so the big deal of police or federal agencies being able to do this on a national scale?

Yeah GatorB we should overthrow the govt over this.... travel a bit my friend, the US is not at all a bad place to live.

[Rochard]

Lots of problems with the cool states writing local laws to deny. First federal law overrules state laws. Second, what happens when you try to travel? You can no longer get on a plane without your papers, I mean, National ID.

The problems with travel do not stop there. Say I live in a state where I do not need my papers. Then I travel by car to another state that requires you to have your papers. Some states may even require you to swipe your ID when you pass through toll booths. You are no longer free to travel your own country.

The law needs to be challenged constitutionally for anything real to stop it from happening.

This is not true at all. You won't need to have "papers" but instead a national ID, which will replace your current ID - Your driver's license.

You need your driver's license to do nearly anything today anyhow. You can't drive without it, can't fly without, and need it to use your credit card (Well, they are supposed to ask for it.)

I dont see much of a difference, it's more of getting all the states on one platform instead of having fity different kinds of IDs.

This could be great for our industry. The next time someone under age gets a fake national ID and we use it for our records... We can blame it on the federal goverment instead of California ID - such as the case with Traci Lords.

[WoW!]

Did I hear the word CONSTITUTION mentioned in this thread??? Multiple times?

Funny how when it affects people directly it comes down to the constitution.

BUT when Ron Paul talks about getting back to it, HE'S NUTS!

[Michaelious]

You'll be all fucked and in forced labour camps within the decade!