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  • marketsmart
    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
    • Dec 2004
    • 20419

    #1

    Where do you draw the line between pedophile and....

    teen sites? personally i am sickened by sites that promote underage looking girls when the site owner knows godd and damn well that the girl looks like she is under 18... personally, i dont give a fuck if you have 2257.. if you are shooting, promoting, or marketing, a site that caters towards the pedo crowd, you should be killed or jailed...

    what do you think?
  • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
    So Fucking Banned
    • Oct 2005
    • 5133

    #2
    Originally posted by marketsmart
    teen sites? personally i am sickened by sites that promote underage looking girls when the site owner knows godd and damn well that the girl looks like she is under 18... personally, i dont give a fuck if you have 2257.. if you are shooting, promoting, or marketing, a site that caters towards the pedo crowd, you should be killed or jailed...

    what do you think?
    I personally think you are gay or retarded or both.

    lets really cut the bullshit right here right now in this thread on GFY.

    Any man who says he dosent enjoy the beauty of a young lady is gay or full of shit.

    I see sexy females...under the age of 18 all the time and I am not afraid to admit it. I would proably fuck the living shit out of a sexy 17 yo and a mature 16 could serve as dinner

    I guess this is the fun side of being financialy secure... I can be completely honest and don't give a shit


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    • marketsmart
      HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
      • Dec 2004
      • 20419

      #3
      Originally posted by pussyserver
      I personally think you are gay or retarded or both.

      lets really cut the bullshit right here right now in this thread on GFY.

      Any man who says he dosent enjoy the beauty of a young lady is gay or full of shit.

      I see sexy females...under the age of 18 all the time and I am not afraid to admit it. I would proably fuck the living shit out of a sexy 17 yo and a mature 16 could serve as dinner

      I guess this is the fun side of being financialy secure... I can be completely honest and don't give a shit
      i appreciate your honesty, but the law is the law... in the US it is illegal to have sex with a minor... are you saying that sex with a minor is ok?

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      • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
        So Fucking Banned
        • Oct 2005
        • 5133

        #4
        Originally posted by marketsmart
        i appreciate your honesty, but the law is the law... in the US it is illegal to have sex with a minor... are you saying that sex with a minor is ok?
        that's not what I said..

        I said I would fuck the giddy out of a 17 and eat mature 16 like it were the last meal

        the same people who made most of those laws are hypocrits

        I say the age of consent should be 16

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        • FetishTom
          Confirmed User
          • Jul 2003
          • 341

          #5
          Originally posted by marketsmart
          i appreciate your honesty, but the law is the law... in the US it is illegal to have sex with a minor... are you saying that sex with a minor is ok?
          Age of consent in most States is 16 I seem to recall as it is in most Western European countries

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          • who
            So Fucking Banned
            • Aug 2003
            • 19593

            #6
            Originally posted by marketsmart
            i appreciate your honesty, but the law is the law... in the US it is illegal to have sex with a minor... are you saying that sex with a minor is ok?
            The idea of 'minor' is a concept. It is a concept which needs to be reviewed, as people in the modern world start becoming sexually active at a younger age with each generation.

            The western world and U.S.A. in particular is terrified of their own sexual interests. Anything to do with sex is taboo and causes all manner of people to go insane and start quoting religious texts and so on. The same 'objective' people pay to watch videos such as two girls one cup when nobody is observing them. It's a phobia. These people censor themselves to hide the shame of their own desires. Shame which should not exist, and desires which are perfectly natural. Or, desires which are only the result of self-censorship. We want what we can't have. It's a basic and damaging human instinct.

            What I'm saying is, that all this self-censorship is utterly insane. Laws preventing minors from engaging in sexual activity doesn't stop the sexual activity, it just makes people feel guilty about it, which then compounds the 'problem' if there is one.

            Meanwhile I have lost my train of thought entirely, but what I wanted to say is that the concept of 'minor' should start a lot younger than it does. Not 17 years. Most 17 year olds have been fucking for several years, drinking, having just as many evil thoughts as every other 'adult'. When we censor our own desires, they warp into even more disturbing ones...

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            • After Shock Media
              It's coming look busy
              • Mar 2001
              • 35299

              #7
              To me a pedo is someone who wants and is attracted to kids who have yet to hit puberty and much younger. Typically a pedo is moving on from the 12 year old to the younger 4 year old where he started at with the first kid.

              They are not interested in teenagers with lollypops and pigtails holding teddy bears. That is just catering to the barely legal crowd which is far from what a pedo seeks.

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              • Fap
                Just Du It
                • Feb 2004
                • 12094

                #8
                eh if theyre 18 whats the harm?

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                • marketsmart
                  HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 20419

                  #9
                  Originally posted by After Shock Media
                  To me a pedo is someone who wants and is attracted to kids who have yet to hit puberty and much younger. Typically a pedo is moving on from the 12 year old to the younger 4 year old where he started at with the first kid.

                  They are not interested in teenagers with lollypops and pigtails holding teddy bears. That is just catering to the barely legal crowd which is far from what a pedo seeks.
                  i see your poiont, but i have to disagree... the legal consent age in the US is 18... any site that tries to portray girls that are under that age (18) are imho just trying to entice the pedo crowd...

                  i could name several sites and site owners, but i won't...

                  i am merely staing my own personal opinion and soliciting other opinions...

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                  • marketsmart
                    HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 20419

                    #10
                    Originally posted by banthis
                    eh if theyre 18 whats the harm?
                    the harm is facilitating or encouraging sex or sexual fantasies with minors...

                    where do we draw the line?

                    sex with a minor in the US will get you jail time and a label as a sex offender..

                    if the govt sets the bar at 18 y/o... and under that age is illegal, then the law is clear and concise..

                    i have no issue with that..

                    what i do have an issue with, is sites that cleary try to incinuate that their models are under 18...

                    to be frank, no 18 y/o should or would have an interest in stuffed animals or child like surroundings in a photo shoot...

                    i have a real prob;lem with producers or site owners trying to profit in behaviour that they know caters to pedophiles or parties interested in underage sex...

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                    • After Shock Media
                      It's coming look busy
                      • Mar 2001
                      • 35299

                      #11
                      Originally posted by marketsmart
                      i see your poiont, but i have to disagree... the legal consent age in the US is 18... any site that tries to portray girls that are under that age (18) are imho just trying to entice the pedo crowd...

                      i could name several sites and site owners, but i won't...

                      i am merely staing my own personal opinion and soliciting other opinions...
                      No the legal age to be on film is 18. Here are your legal ages of consent and keep in mind the national average is 16 and this is for male on female intercourse. Also keep in mind the ages of consent for male on male and female on female is often much lower. Now here are your ages.

                      Alabama 16
                      Alaska 16
                      Arizona 18
                      Arkansas 16
                      California 18
                      Colorado 16
                      Connecticut 16
                      D.C. 16
                      Delaware 16
                      Florida 16
                      Georgia 16
                      Hawaii 16
                      Idaho 16
                      Illinois 17
                      Indiana 16
                      Iowa 16
                      Kansas 16
                      Kentucky 16
                      Louisiana 17
                      Maine 16
                      Maryland 16
                      Massachusetts 16
                      Michigan 16
                      Minnesota 16
                      Mississippi 16
                      Missouri 16
                      Montana 16
                      Nebraska 17
                      Nevada 16
                      New Hampshire 16
                      New Jersey 16
                      New Mexico 17
                      New York 16
                      North Carolina 16
                      North Dakota 18
                      Ohio 16
                      Oklahoma 16
                      Oregon 18
                      Pennsylvania 16
                      Rhode Island 16
                      South Carolina 16
                      South Dakota 16
                      Tennessee 18
                      Texas 16
                      Utah 16
                      Vermont 16
                      Virginia 18
                      Washington 16
                      West Virginia 16
                      Wisconsin 18
                      Wyoming 16
                      Traveling Citizens 18
                      Military personnel 17

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                      • FetishTom
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 341

                        #12
                        Originally posted by marketsmart
                        .. the legal consent age in the US is 18...
                        My opinion is...the legal age of consent in the States varies between 16 to 18 with a minority of States in the 18 camp

                        UK is 16 - in fact pretty much everywhere it is 16 - and bollocks to the 'ooh I fancy a 17 y/o with big tits and cute arse which has been banged consistantly since she hit 15 therefore I must be a pedo'.

                        It doesn't.

                        Anyway back in the real world here is a news update. 16 y/o girls are having sex. Deal with it.

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                        • WarChild
                          Let slip the dogs of war.
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 17263

                          #13
                          Originally posted by marketsmart
                          i see your poiont, but i have to disagree... the legal consent age in the US is 18... any site that tries to portray girls that are under that age (18) are imho just trying to entice the pedo crowd...

                          i could name several sites and site owners, but i won't...

                          i am merely staing my own personal opinion and soliciting other opinions...
                          The age of consent in the US is closer to 16 than 18, but varies by state.

                          Pedophilia, tradionally speaking is a sexual attraction to children. Not youths, or developed teenagers. There are girls who are pretty much fully developed at 16 years old. Not that I advocade adults being attracted to 16 year olds either mind you.

                          So dressing up a girl with developed breasts etc in pig tails and a cheerleader outfit does not a pedo make.
                          .

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                          • marketsmart
                            HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                            • Dec 2004
                            • 20419

                            #14
                            Originally posted by FetishTom
                            My opinion is...the legal age of consent in the States varies between 16 to 18 with a minority of States in the 18 camp

                            UK is 16 - in fact pretty much everywhere it is 16 - and bollocks to the 'ooh I fancy a 17 y/o with big tits and cute arse which has been banged consistantly since she hit 15 therefore I must be a pedo'.

                            It doesn't.

                            Anyway back in the real world here is a news update. 16 y/o girls are having sex. Deal with it.
                            i agree with the fact that 16 y/o are having sex, but would you own or promote a site thst clearly tries to make the girls seem younger than they actually are?

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                            • hateman
                              So Fucking Banned
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 1623

                              #15
                              Originally posted by pussyserver
                              I personally think you are gay or retarded or both.

                              lets really cut the bullshit right here right now in this thread on GFY.

                              Any man who says he dosent enjoy the beauty of a young lady is gay or full of shit.

                              I see sexy females...under the age of 18 all the time and I am not afraid to admit it. I would proably fuck the living shit out of a sexy 17 yo and a mature 16 could serve as dinner

                              I guess this is the fun side of being financialy secure... I can be completely honest and don't give a shit


                              """""sig for sale ICQ me """""

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                              • marketsmart
                                HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 20419

                                #16
                                Originally posted by WarChild
                                The age of consent in the US is closer to 16 than 18, but varies by state.

                                Pedophilia, tradionally speaking is a sexual attraction to children. Not youths, or developed teenagers. There are girls who are pretty much fully developed at 16 years old. Not that I advocade adults being attracted to 16 year olds either mind you.

                                So dressing up a girl with developed breasts etc in pig tails and a cheerleader outfit does not a pedo make.
                                what about a flat chested 18 y/o?

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                                • V_RocKs
                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                  • Nov 2003
                                  • 32449

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by marketsmart
                                  teen sites? personally i am sickened by sites that promote underage looking girls when the site owner knows godd and damn well that the girl looks like she is under 18... personally, i dont give a fuck if you have 2257.. if you are shooting, promoting, or marketing, a site that caters towards the pedo crowd, you should be killed or jailed...

                                  what do you think?
                                  I think you think way to much.

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                                  • After Shock Media
                                    It's coming look busy
                                    • Mar 2001
                                    • 35299

                                    #18
                                    Oh I forgot a quasi non states.
                                    Puerto Rico 14

                                    Now I posted the male ages, the vast majority have same age for female and those that are like at 14 for male are at like 16 for female. (Not including the one in this post) So typically as long as female is 2 years older than the male your safe in every state assuming they have a difference at all which many do not. Though the gay male on male is wierd as they have age differences so well use your imagination when it says 14/16

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                                    • V_RocKs
                                      Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                      • Nov 2003
                                      • 32449

                                      #19

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                                      • V_RocKs
                                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                        • Nov 2003
                                        • 32449

                                        #20

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                                        • marketsmart
                                          HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                          • Dec 2004
                                          • 20419

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                          Oh I forgot a quasi non states.
                                          Puerto Rico 14

                                          Now I posted the male ages, the vast majority have same age for female and those that are like at 14 for male are at like 16 for female. (Not including the one in this post) So typically as long as female is 2 years older than the male your safe in every state assuming they have a difference at all which many do not. Though the gay male on male is wierd as they have age differences so well use your imagination when it says 14/16
                                          its not about being safe, imho its about doing the right thing...

                                          instead of making money the number one, how about making the welfare of the industry number one...

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                                          • V_RocKs
                                            Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 32449

                                            #22

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                                            • After Shock Media
                                              It's coming look busy
                                              • Mar 2001
                                              • 35299

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                              Hey wait now in Japan she must be 18 to legally get pounded by a 13 year old boy. Just the law and a FYI.

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                                              • After Shock Media
                                                It's coming look busy
                                                • Mar 2001
                                                • 35299

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                its not about being safe, imho its about doing the right thing...

                                                instead of making money the number one, how about making the welfare of the industry number one...

                                                PS I really do not promote such sites. I just am willing to defend them even though I personally find them sick using my own morals and ethics.

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                                                • V_RocKs
                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 32449

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                  Hey wait now in Japan she must be 18 to legally get pounded by a 13 year old boy. Just the law and a FYI.
                                                  I am going back in time and moving to Japan...

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                                                  • Fap
                                                    Just Du It
                                                    • Feb 2004
                                                    • 12094

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by hateman

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                                                    • Fap
                                                      Just Du It
                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                      • 12094

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                      No the legal age to be on film is 18. Here are your legal ages of consent and keep in mind the national average is 16 and this is for male on female intercourse. Also keep in mind the ages of consent for male on male and female on female is often much lower. Now here are your ages.

                                                      Alabama 16
                                                      Alaska 16
                                                      Arizona 18
                                                      Arkansas 16
                                                      California 18
                                                      Colorado 16
                                                      Connecticut 16
                                                      D.C. 16
                                                      Delaware 16
                                                      Florida 16
                                                      Georgia 16
                                                      Hawaii 16
                                                      Idaho 16
                                                      Illinois 17
                                                      Indiana 16
                                                      Iowa 16
                                                      Kansas 16
                                                      Kentucky 16
                                                      Louisiana 17
                                                      Maine 16
                                                      Maryland 16
                                                      Massachusetts 16
                                                      Michigan 16
                                                      Minnesota 16
                                                      Mississippi 16
                                                      Missouri 16
                                                      Montana 16
                                                      Nebraska 17
                                                      Nevada 16
                                                      New Hampshire 16
                                                      New Jersey 16
                                                      New Mexico 17
                                                      New York 16
                                                      North Carolina 16
                                                      North Dakota 18
                                                      Ohio 16
                                                      Oklahoma 16
                                                      Oregon 18
                                                      Pennsylvania 16
                                                      Rhode Island 16
                                                      South Carolina 16
                                                      South Dakota 16
                                                      Tennessee 18
                                                      Texas 16
                                                      Utah 16
                                                      Vermont 16
                                                      Virginia 18
                                                      Washington 16
                                                      West Virginia 16
                                                      Wisconsin 18
                                                      Wyoming 16
                                                      Traveling Citizens 18
                                                      Military personnel 17
                                                      You sure about those numbers? Ive always been told 18 and im from NY..

                                                      And military personnel 17? That doesnt make sense considering you cant enlist until 18...

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                                                      • marketsmart
                                                        HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                        • Dec 2004
                                                        • 20419

                                                        #28
                                                        see to me quote #19 pics and quote #20 pics are too young. yes, i am sure they are over 18, but to me, both pics represent girls that appear to be closer to 15 or 16 y/o...

                                                        so, imho, why promote girls that appear to be younger than they actually appear....

                                                        i see plenty of teen models that appear to be over 18 y/o, why not just use them and not models that appear to be under the age of 18?

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                                                        • V_RocKs
                                                          Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                          • Nov 2003
                                                          • 32449

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                          see to me quote #19 pics and quote #20 pics are too young. yes, i am sure they are over 18, but to me, both pics represent girls that appear to be closer to 15 or 16 y/o...

                                                          so, imho, why promote girls that appear to be younger than they actually appear....

                                                          i see plenty of teen models that appear to be over 18 y/o, why not just use them and not models that appear to be under the age of 18?
                                                          Because dirty old men and 18 year old guys want chicks that look barely legal.

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                                                          • marketsmart
                                                            HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                            • 20419

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                            PS I really do not promote such sites. I just am willing to defend them even though I personally find them sick using my own morals and ethics.
                                                            thats what i am talking about... you "find them sick using your own morals and ethics"...

                                                            this is not a free speech issue or legal issue, this is more about doing the right thing....

                                                            somehthing the adult world seems to care little about.....

                                                            if a model is 18, she's 18, but why would you market a girl just because she looks underage?

                                                            whether we like it or not, this is going on everyday and persoanlly i disagree with it.....

                                                            legal or not, i think anyone can see what the overall goal is and target audience...

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                                                            • marketsmart
                                                              HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                              • Dec 2004
                                                              • 20419

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                              Because dirty old men and 18 year old guys want chicks that look barely legal.
                                                              so that makes it right?

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                                                              • denny007
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Nov 2005
                                                                • 267

                                                                #32
                                                                Age of consent in whole world:
                                                                http://ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
                                                                It differs from 12 to 21 throughout the world.
                                                                Homosexuality still illegal in many US states...

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                                                                • FetishTom
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                  • 341

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by marketsmart

                                                                  i see plenty of teen models that appear to be over 18 y/o, why not just use them and not models that appear to be under the age of 18?
                                                                  Bit harsh on a model who is of age to be excluded on the grounds she looks too young!

                                                                  Do I or would I promote sites that portray girls as say looking 12 to 14? No not personally as I would not be comfortable with it Equally though I am not going to get worked up over someone who chooses to do it either. Same rule applies to scat sites or beastility. I don't like it so I don't do it but I won't condemn those that do.

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                                                                  • After Shock Media
                                                                    It's coming look busy
                                                                    • Mar 2001
                                                                    • 35299

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by banthis
                                                                    You sure about those numbers? Ive always been told 18 and im from NY..

                                                                    And military personnel 17? That doesnt make sense considering you cant enlist until 18...

                                                                    A whole lot of shit does not make sense when it comes to sex and specially age of consent in assorted US states and countries. BTW I was wrong with the military stats, its actually 16 but they can be charged with breaking state laws. I.E. a 30 year old could fuck a 16 year old in many states. Also NY in reality is 15/17 with some legal jargon attached.

                                                                    I went on a google search just now for you and here is a breakdown by country and by state and by gender, etc.
                                                                    http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

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                                                                    • After Shock Media
                                                                      It's coming look busy
                                                                      • Mar 2001
                                                                      • 35299

                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by denny007
                                                                      Age of consent in whole world:
                                                                      http://ageofconsent.com/ageofconsent.htm
                                                                      It differs from 12 to 21 throughout the world.
                                                                      Homosexuality still illegal in many US states...
                                                                      Actually no on that homosexuality law in the US, most have been overturned unless your in the military of course. So they either have set ages, its been overturned, or it has been repealed.

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                                                                      • FetishTom
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                                                                        • Jul 2003
                                                                        • 341

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by banthis
                                                                        You sure about those numbers? Ive always been told 18 and im from NY..
                                                                        Funnily enough I have yet to meet an American who did not swear blind that the age of consent is 18. Even when faced with the evidence that it varies between States and is commonly 16 they are still unconvinced.

                                                                        Question is who, and why, is it drummed into American kids it is 18 when it isn't for the most part?

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                                                                        • marketsmart
                                                                          HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                          • Dec 2004
                                                                          • 20419

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                                          Bit harsh on a model who is of age to be excluded on the grounds she looks too young!

                                                                          Do I or would I promote sites that portray girls as say looking 12 to 14? No not personally as I would not be comfortable with it Equally though I am not going to get worked up over someone who chooses to do it either. Same rule applies to scat sites or beastility. I don't like it so I don't do it but I won't condemn those that do.
                                                                          then where do you set the bar?

                                                                          i am not saying that adhering to the law is wrong, but what i am saying is that the adult industry as a whole should take the higher road...

                                                                          having models that clearly look underage and having them pose with stuffed animals and pigtails, etc, gives a bad name to adult and needs to be addressed...

                                                                          i get the feeling that people in the "teen' market are more interested in making money that doing what the normal person would seem as the right thing to do...

                                                                          that is my point and i will continue to fight for the industry to do the "right thing'....

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                                                                          • marketsmart
                                                                            HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                            • Dec 2004
                                                                            • 20419

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by FetishTom
                                                                            Funnily enough I have yet to meet an American who did not swear blind that the age of consent is 18. Even when faced with the evidence that it varies between States and is commonly 16 they are still unconvinced.

                                                                            Question is who, and why, is it drummed into American kids it is 18 when it isn't for the most part?
                                                                            IMO, 16 is no where near the leagl age (in terms of being able to make a rational decision) nor is 18 y/o...

                                                                            IMO, the age of consent should be 21 or older (of course this varies based on the age of their partner and whether consenting or not)...

                                                                            IMO, an 18 y/o having sex with her boyfriend is far different than having sex on camera, especially when the cameraman or producer is 25 y/o +....

                                                                            the disconnect here is the difference between having sex and being taken advantage of...

                                                                            maybe the lawas need to change...

                                                                            i have no problem with a 16 y/o having sex with a 16-18 y/o boyfriend, what i have an issue with is an 18 y/o girl doing hardcore sex or even a solo site when the producer is 21 + y/o...

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                                                                            • After Shock Media
                                                                              It's coming look busy
                                                                              • Mar 2001
                                                                              • 35299

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                              then where do you set the bar?

                                                                              i am not saying that adhering to the law is wrong, but what i am saying is that the adult industry as a whole should take the higher road...

                                                                              having models that clearly look underage and having them pose with stuffed animals and pigtails, etc, gives a bad name to adult and needs to be addressed...

                                                                              i get the feeling that people in the "teen' market are more interested in making money that doing what the normal person would seem as the right thing to do...

                                                                              that is my point and i will continue to fight for the industry to do the "right thing'....
                                                                              I refuse to think that. Otherwise it must also be applied to everything else I find repulsive or degrading. So lets take the high road and remove the following please.
                                                                              Cum swapping
                                                                              Ass to mouth
                                                                              All forms of male on male sex
                                                                              Penetration of both the pussy and ass at same time as I also find this gay.
                                                                              Vomiting
                                                                              Slapping the face of a girl
                                                                              Showing a mans ass from behind while he is fucking something with his brown eye exposed and his balls swinging too and fro.
                                                                              Transexuals fucking women or being fucked by men or by other trannies.
                                                                              Most forms of S and M.
                                                                              Object insertion.
                                                                              Squirting/pissing.
                                                                              Bald pussies
                                                                              Hairsuit
                                                                              Granny porn
                                                                              Old on young
                                                                              Gagging
                                                                              Degrading the females in any shape or form.
                                                                              Tit fucking as it falls under degrading.
                                                                              Double dildo usage since its just fucking pointless and rarely hot in real life.
                                                                              Fake plots
                                                                              Unprotected sex
                                                                              Not posting disclaimers in regards to anal sex and prior douching.
                                                                              And well I could go on and on.

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                                                                              • marketsmart
                                                                                HOMICIDAL TROLL KILLER
                                                                                • Dec 2004
                                                                                • 20419

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                I refuse to think that. Otherwise it must also be applied to everything else I find repulsive or degrading. So lets take the high road and remove the following please.
                                                                                Cum swapping
                                                                                Ass to mouth
                                                                                All forms of male on male sex
                                                                                Penetration of both the pussy and ass at same time as I also find this gay.
                                                                                Vomiting
                                                                                Slapping the face of a girl
                                                                                Showing a mans ass from behind while he is fucking something with his brown eye exposed and his balls swinging too and fro.
                                                                                Transexuals fucking women or being fucked by men or by other trannies.
                                                                                Most forms of S and M.
                                                                                Object insertion.
                                                                                Squirting/pissing.
                                                                                Bald pussies
                                                                                Hairsuit
                                                                                Granny porn
                                                                                Old on young
                                                                                Gagging
                                                                                Degrading the females in any shape or form.
                                                                                Tit fucking as it falls under degrading.
                                                                                Double dildo usage since its just fucking pointless and rarely hot in real life.
                                                                                Fake plots
                                                                                Unprotected sex
                                                                                Not posting disclaimers in regards to anal sex and prior douching.
                                                                                And well I could go on and on.
                                                                                hmmm... you make a good point.. i guess i am just sensitive to the whole teen genre... reading what you posted makes me realize that there are other genres that i may not find offensive, but others might..

                                                                                i guess at the end of the day i would just wish that people might use better judgement or at least more thought process when choosing to shoot, distribute, or host content, whether teen related or not....

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                                                                                • Linguist
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Apr 2004
                                                                                  • 1706

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Morals are imposed by government as laws. USA is not the holy grail of what is right and what's not.

                                                                                  In Canada age of consent is 14. That's right. A 14 year old can make a decision to have sex with a 40 year old.
                                                                                  http://www.justice.gc.ca/en/dept/clp/faq.html

                                                                                  So .. Canadian lawmakers are pedos? And once again according to whom? The USA has been known for babying its kids. 21 years old to drink? For fucks sake. I think 19 to drink in Canada is too high, it should be 16 like in European countries. Even though kids start drinking at 14 anyway.
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                                                                                  • Paul Markham
                                                                                    Too old to care
                                                                                    • Jun 2001
                                                                                    • 52942

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                    i appreciate your honesty, but the law is the law... in the US it is illegal to have sex with a minor... are you saying that sex with a minor is ok?
                                                                                    So the law here is 15, does it make it right for me to go after 15 year olds?

                                                                                    IMO no, 15 year olds are not to be preyed on by 50 year olds. Other 15 year olds is fine.

                                                                                    The problem with the law on sex is it's an guessing game. As we reach puberty our bodies change in many ways, not just pubic hair but glands inside us produce chemicals that make us want to have sex. Do you make someone a criminal for doing what nature intended?

                                                                                    Adults who prey on younger people are after far more than sex. As the person they prey on gets younger it gets more about control than sex.

                                                                                    Guys who get turned on driving pass a 6th formers are remembering their first sexual experiences and arousals. A totally different thing. What you have to prove is the sites catering for them stimulate the desire or provide a release valve. Sexual crimes have usually dropped as more porn becomes available.

                                                                                    Originally posted by After Shock Media
                                                                                    To me a pedo is someone who wants and is attracted to kids who have yet to hit puberty and much younger. Typically a pedo is moving on from the 12 year old to the younger 4 year old where he started at with the first kid.

                                                                                    They are not interested in teenagers with lollypops and pigtails holding teddy bears. That is just catering to the barely legal crowd which is far from what a pedo seeks.
                                                                                    That kinda says it better than me.

                                                                                    And even though I shoot teens my thing is girls in stockings and suspenders, 25 year olds who will seduce me. Teens, unless they are very naughty and sure of themselves. Look at my work and you see few scared teens. That is what Pedos want, someone to dominate.



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                                                                                    • Dirty Dane
                                                                                      Sick Fuck
                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                      • 9491

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Underage is a legal term. Pedo is a medical term.

                                                                                      There is difference. I think WHO defines pedophilism as attraction to prepuberty.

                                                                                      Rest is morality.

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                                                                                      • BVF
                                                                                        Black Vagina Finder
                                                                                        • Jan 2002
                                                                                        • 13975

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                        i see your poiont, but i have to disagree... the legal consent age in the US is 18...
                                                                                        You don't know what you're talking about...The average age of consent in the united states is 16...If you don't believe me, google it.

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                                                                                        • Davy
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Apr 2006
                                                                                          • 4323

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Let the processing companies decide that.
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                                                                                          • BVF
                                                                                            Black Vagina Finder
                                                                                            • Jan 2002
                                                                                            • 13975

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by Paul Markham
                                                                                            So the law here is 15, does it make it right for me to go after 15 year olds?

                                                                                            IMO no, 15 year olds are not to be preyed on by 50 year olds. Other 15 year olds is fine.
                                                                                            Yet it's perfectly ok for a 50 year old to prey on a girl only three years older at 18?

                                                                                            um hummmmmmmmmmm.

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                                                                                            • kmanrox
                                                                                              aka K-Man
                                                                                              • Oct 2001
                                                                                              • 29295

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              i think CP should be legalized.. shrug
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                                                                                              • BVF
                                                                                                Black Vagina Finder
                                                                                                • Jan 2002
                                                                                                • 13975

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by marketsmart

                                                                                                i have no problem with a 16 y/o having sex with a 16-18 y/o boyfriend, what i have an issue with is an 18 y/o girl doing hardcore sex or even a solo site when the producer is 21 + y/o...
                                                                                                So if the producer is 19 years old and sells the content that will be seen by a bunch of horny 50 year olds, it's okay?

                                                                                                Damn some of you people in here are slow.

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                                                                                                • hateman
                                                                                                  So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                                                                  • 1623

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by kmanrox
                                                                                                  i think CP should be legalized.. shrug
                                                                                                  Is that why you reside in 3rd world countries? So you can have sex with little kids?

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                                                                                                  • BVF
                                                                                                    Black Vagina Finder
                                                                                                    • Jan 2002
                                                                                                    • 13975

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by marketsmart
                                                                                                    then where do you set the bar?

                                                                                                    i am not saying that adhering to the law is wrong, but what i am saying is that the adult industry as a whole should take the higher road...

                                                                                                    having models that clearly look underage and having them pose with stuffed animals and pigtails, etc, gives a bad name to adult and needs to be addressed...

                                                                                                    i get the feeling that people in the "teen' market are more interested in making money that doing what the normal person would seem as the right thing to do...

                                                                                                    that is my point and i will continue to fight for the industry to do the "right thing'....
                                                                                                    You're an idiot...

                                                                                                    Stuffing two black dicks into a 21 year old's ass and ejaculating into her will not make the adult industry look any better to outsiders just because you waited until she was 21 to do it...

                                                                                                    Your argument is invalid and your 'fight' will go nowhere.

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