Dutch reporter cracks Holloway Case!

[Danny B]

Yup! Peter R. de Vries is coming for you van der Sloot!
Haha ain't carma a bitch?

His report wil be broadcasted in Holland on sbs6, Sunday, 21.30 hrs

Vid where van der Sloot throws a glass of wine at Peter R. de Vries
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_mqdBSFwpyw

After a Dutch journalist declared that his private investigation had solved the mysterious disappearance of American teenager Natalee Holloway, the chief prosecutor in Aruba announced today that he is reopening the case.

Reporter Peter R. de Vries said he used a sophisticated network of hidden cameras in what he called an "undercover operation" to obtain evidence that he claimed "has solved the mystery" of Holloway's disappearance on May 30, 2005.

The mystery behind the disappearance of the blond teenager has eluded efforts by the Aruba police and even the FBI for more than two years.

This information may shed a new light on the mode of which Natalee Holloway has died and the method by which her body disappeared," Mos said today.

He credited de Vries with uncovering the leads and said, "This information may help considerably in the solution of the mystery of Natalee's disappearance."

De Vries said that he and his team had been conducting an undercover operation for several months, and that he would broadcast his findings in a special program on Dutch television this Sunday.


ABC News will air a 90-minute special edition of "20/20: The Final Hours of Natalee Holloway" on Monday, Feb. 4, at 9:30 p.m. ET

Full story:

http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/story?id=4222253&page=1

[k0nr4d]

Who's holloway?

[Danny B]

Who's holloway?

And your point is......?

[SmokeyTheBear]

i dont know why media sites even give these stories any cred.

if he had some sort of credible evidence why not just tell us, why the mystery wait.. seems like whenever there is some mystery wait the news is always overblown.

theres really only 2 things that would "blow the case wide open" , that would be a clear confession or the body.

obviously he doesnt have the body , so it has to be a confession of some sort . if it was a clear confession then the story would be "hear joran CONFESS to the muder of natalie holloway", that would make headlines everywhere. but of course if he doesnt have a clear confession that would be illegal to say, so that only leaves some vague confession that won't mean a thing.

i could be wrong though , its happened before.

[Enemator]

i dont know why media sites even give these stories any cred.

if he had some sort of credible evidence why not just tell us, why the mystery wait.. seems like whenever there is some mystery wait the news is always overblown.

It's very simple: Peter R de Vries (the investigator) has a TV show. He's broadcasting this stuff on Sunday. He's done stuff like this before and he ALWAYS airs his show, so really, you'll see it won't just dissapear.

Why wait so long? Money. All the TV stations want to buy his story.

It's called: hyping things up.

So there you have it.

[Enemator]

The material he has is undercover footage.

[Danny B]

It's very simple: Peter R de Vries (the investigator) has a TV show. He's broadcasting this stuff on Sunday. He's done stuff like this before and he ALWAYS airs his show, so really, you'll see it won't just dissapear.

Why wait so long? Money. All the TV stations want to buy his story.

It's called: hyping things up.

So there you have it.

Exactly. And he had done numurous investigations in the past. These are some of his bigger stories: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_R._De_Vries

He has done a lot of good work. And by making such an announcement, he has to be able to back it up. Otherwise he just dug his own grave.

This is going to be HUGE. Mark my words.

[SmokeyTheBear]

It's very simple: Peter R de Vries (the investigator) has a TV show. He's broadcasting this stuff on Sunday. He's done stuff like this before and he ALWAYS airs his show, so really, you'll see it won't just dissapear.

Why wait so long? Money. All the TV stations want to buy his story.

It's called: hyping things up.

So there you have it.

all that may be true , but if it is about hype and money dont you think "hear jorans confession" would bring alot more hype ?

we have already established that the only 2 things that could blow the case open would be a confession or a body ..

unless there is something else , but what else could he have found that would convince you he was guilty.

[SmokeyTheBear]

he is obviously sensationalizing it

" Beth reacted deeply shocked by the pictures that proved Natalee was no longer alive. "

cmon now , anyone would think that meant he had pictures of her dead. i just don't find this very plausible.

[charlie g]

Sounds like PR for a shitty way to ear a buck!

[Danny B]

he is obviously sensationalizing it

" Beth reacted deeply shocked by the pictures that proved Natalee was no longer alive. "

cmon now , anyone would think that meant he had pictures of her dead. i just don't find this very plausible.

Perhaps it's not pics of her body, but some pics that give her enough reason to assume she's dead.

Anyway, speculating about the content of the show isn't getting us anywhere, but I'm pretty sure he will have a stong enough case to get van der Sloot in very big trouble.

I wil report to this thread right after the show.

Sounds like PR for a shitty way to ear a buck!

I would of done the same after months of hard work, a glass of wine thrown at you on national TV...

[ServerGenius]

Peter is a funny dude.....I'll be watching sunday fosho

[VicD]

Peter is a funny dude.....I'll be watching sunday fosho

Same here, maybe it can beat "Farmer looking for wife"

[The Duck]

sophisticated network of hidden cameras????????

[VicD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nuStETkoio

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X-n9moEbc4

Go Peter Go

[nico-t]

he can back it up for sure, the guy always does. Although i do think this case has gotten way too much rediculous coverage internationally, we all know it was the perfect temporary smokescreen for the US government to diverse the attention from the huge ongoing fuckup in iraq.

[ServerGenius]

Same here, maybe it can beat "Farmer looking for wife"

Damn I love that show too.....Yvonne Jaspers is HOT and the blonde who
has the hots for Farmer Frans is also HOT!

[Fletch XXX]

i dont know why media sites even give these stories any cred.

if he had some sort of credible evidence why not just tell us,

no money in info, only money in commercials and ads

[ServerGenius]

b.t.w. Peter de Vries isn't just a reporter he was an law enforcement
investigator for many years before he became a crime reporter. Also this
isn't going to be the first case that he will crack.....he has done it several
times very successfully before and he sure won't run his mouth unless he's
sure he has a case

[Danny B]

b.t.w. Peter de Vries isn't just a reporter he was an law enforcement
investigator for many years before he became a crime reporter. Also this
isn't going to be the first case that he will crack.....he has done it several
times very successfully before and he sure won't run his mouth unless he's
sure he has a case

Cheers Hans that's what I've been trying to say.

Joran is about to get

[ServerGenius]

The tape is already confirmed usable in court.....strike 1

[ServerGenius]

Cheers Hans that's what I've been trying to say.

Joran is about to get

that has got to hurt....still grinches me when I see it

[Fletch XXX]

b.t.w. Peter de Vries isn't just a reporter he was an law enforcement
investigator for many years before he became a crime reporter. Also this
isn't going to be the first case that he will crack.....he has done it several
times very successfully before and he sure won't run his mouth unless he's
sure he has a case

nothing worse than a pig who turns into a "crime reporter"

he is in it only for the money, and no matter what he says, he is an ambulance chaser

[ServerGenius]

nothing worse than a pig who turns into a "crime reporter"

he is in it only for the money, and no matter what he says, he is an ambulance chaser

Yes he's in it for the money....but in a different way tha US style T.V making.
Our law enforcement DOES suck....he doesn't take advantage of victims
at least not in a ruthless way and he does get cases solved, lost people and/or
bodies found and criminals behind bars.....but yes he makes a good living from
it too

[Fletch XXX]

A lawyer gave me some advice once and I will never forget it: "never trust what a cop says, they lie all the time, and its my job to prove they do. It is proven in court rooms all the time."

I would rather have a lawyer as a friend than a cop any day.

My younger brother is on his way to becoming one.

[ServerGenius]

A lawyer gave me some advice once and I will never forget it: "never trust what a cop says, they lie all the time, and its my job to prove they do. It is proven in court rooms all the time."

I would rather have a lawyer as a friend than a cop any day.

My younger brother is on his way to becoming one.

I wouldn't want either as a friend they both screw you up....AND both
take your money......Lawyers don't give a fuck about their client....they
only give about their clients money and not losing face in court

[Fletch XXX]

I wouldn't want either as a friend they both screw you up....AND both
take your money......Lawyers don't give a fuck about their client....they
only give about their clients money and not losing face in court

The lawyer I quoted was a friend and I never had to pay him for advice.

[ServerGenius]

The lawyer I quoted was a friend and I never had to pay him for advice.

There's exceptions to every rule of course.....there's also good cops I just
have never met one yet

[Enemator]

all that may be true , but if it is about hype and money dont you think "hear jorans confession" would bring alot more hype ?

Why are you assuming Joran has made a confession? Nobody claims he has.

So until Sunday, it's going to be speculation.

[camchoice]

the pr is done perfect.. even the big us channels are buying his story.. so you can't say anything wrong about that. i give a lot of credit to the pr man of peter r. de vries..

about the story..
well let's wait and see we can all speculate what he discovered but untill sunday we have to wait and speculate some more..

danny.. i hope you keep this thread updated and announce here sunday what he discovered etc etc.

[ServerGenius]

the pr is done perfect.. even the big us channels are buying his story.. so you can't say anything wrong about that. i give a lot of credit to the pr man of peter r. de vries..

about the story..
well let's wait and see we can all speculate what he discovered but untill sunday we have to wait and speculate some more..

danny.. i hope you keep this thread updated and announce here sunday what he discovered etc etc.

ABC already bought sunday's show and will broadcast it aswell

[SmokeyTheBear]

Why are you assuming Joran has made a confession? Nobody claims he has.

So until Sunday, it's going to be speculation.

im assuming it because if they found a body we would have heard about it already right ?

so if there is no body , what other "PROOF" that natalie is dead could there be.. ?

all i can think of is a confession, but like i said i could be wrong..

[pocketkangaroo]

Does it really matter though? I mean everyone knows the 3 kids had something to do with it. And even if they had videotaped evidence of her actually dying, the Dutch police would fuck it up somehow. I've never seen a more incompetent group of law enforcement in my life.

[ServerGenius]

Does it really matter though? I mean everyone knows the 3 kids had something to do with it. And even if they had videotaped evidence of her actually dying, the Dutch police would fuck it up somehow. I've never seen a more incompetent group of law enforcement in my life.

You are aware that this didn't take place in Holland. Apart from the fact that the Dutch
Antilles are a Dutch colony they are self ruling with their own government,
own justice system, own police force.

That besides.....yes also the Dutch police force suck....but in this case they
have NOTHING todo with this whole case.

[ServerGenius]

that was some proper engrish.....sorry about that

[pocketkangaroo]

You are aware that this didn't take place in Holland. Apart from the fact that the Dutch
Antilles are a Dutch colony they are self ruling with their own government,
own justice system, own police force.

That besides.....yes also the Dutch police force suck....but in this case they
have NOTHING todo with this whole case.

Didn't the Dutch come in a year later and try to solve it? Either way, a lot of people got played by a few 17 year old kids.

[BV]

I wouldn't want either as a friend they both screw you up....AND both
take your money......Lawyers don't give a fuck about their client....they
only give about their clients money and not losing face in court

everybody hates lawyers until they need one

[ServerGenius]

Didn't the Dutch come in a year later and try to solve it? Either way, a lot of people got played by a few 17 year old kids.

No a few people on personal account perhaps but defenitely not government
officials or law enforcement.....we simply fund the Dutch antilles which is already
is bad enough......

[ServerGenius]

everybody hates lawyers until they need one

Yeah like taxes, politics, law enforcement and legal systems they are a necessary evil

[JFK]

b.t.w. Peter de Vries isn't just a reporter he was an law enforcement
investigator for many years before he became a crime reporter. Also this
isn't going to be the first case that he will crack.....he has done it several
times very successfully before and he sure won't run his mouth unless he's
sure he has a case

btw, will this be broadcast in North America ?

[Dirty F]

AMSTERDAM - Joran van der Sloot heeft inderdaad een bekentenis gedaan in de zaak van Natalee Holloway. Het Openbaar Ministerie op Aruba bevestigde vrijdag dat een eerder uitgelekt interview van Peter R. de Vries met hoofdofficier van justitie Hans Mos klopt.

[ServerGenius]

btw, will this be broadcast in North America ?

Yeah ABC bought the rights of a 2 hour documentary about this whole case

[directfiesta]

he can back it up for sure, the guy always does. Although i do think this case has gotten way too much rediculous coverage internationally, we all know it was the perfect temporary smokescreen for the US government to diverse the attention from the huge ongoing fuckup in iraq.

looks like it :

Friday February 1, 2008 8:46 PM

By MARGARET WEVER

Associated Press Writer

ORANJESTAD, Aruba (AP) - Aruban prosecutors said Friday that they are reopening their investigation into the disappearance of Alabama teenager Natalee Holloway after seeing secretly taped material from a Dutch journalist.

``The recordings made available to the Public Prosecutor have given the Public Prosecutor a reason to reopen the investigation,'' the public prosecutor's office said in a statement.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlates...275582,00.html

[TroubleTonya]

Everyone knows these boys had something to do with her death. I can't believe that no one was able to prove it up to this point. Lets all hope that this journalist has his shit together and can really prove something. I'll be waiting with bells on my heels to see what this is all about.

[justsexxx]

Does it really matter though? I mean everyone knows the 3 kids had something to do with it. And even if they had videotaped evidence of her actually dying, the Dutch police would fuck it up somehow. I've never seen a more incompetent group of law enforcement in my life.

Haha how are you doing mister clueless

[Enemator]

im assuming it because if they found a body we would have heard about it already right ?

so if there is no body , what other "PROOF" that natalie is dead could there be.. ?

all i can think of is a confession, but like i said i could be wrong..

A confessions doens't necesarily mean it's Jorans confession.

[Enemator]

Does it really matter though? I mean everyone knows the 3 kids had something to do with it. And even if they had videotaped evidence of her actually dying, the Dutch police would fuck it up somehow. I've never seen a more incompetent group of law enforcement in my life.

Lol..and what do YOU know about the Dutch police?

Oh, that's right: fuck all!

[pocketkangaroo]

Lol..and what do YOU know about the Dutch police?

Oh, that's right: fuck all!

I know three 17 year old kids made the police look like clowns.

[Enemator]

I know three 17 year old kids made the police look like clowns.

So by one single incident you can draw that conclusion? Wow, you are awesome.

Luckily the US police force is always on top of things. Yeah, they are awesome guys and they solve every single crime and/or murder case. Really. Good for them!

[kmanrox]

there's another guy to cross off my list of people i'd assisinate in the final months of any terminal illness i may be diagnosed with in the future..

right now there's just OJ Simpson and the Ramsy's