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Fat Panda · 01-28-2008, 02:05 PM

...complete 25 minute videos are all over tube sites just like this:

http://www.redtube.com/88

this particular video has been viewd almost 1,000,000 times! Plus this link has been up so long it has a PR2!

----> I am not just calling out NA...tube sites are full of practically ever sponsor imagineable...

PR_Sebas · 01-28-2008, 02:08 PM

if you notify NA about this they can email redtube and it will be taken down..

someone found a braincash movie up there a couple weeks ago, braincash emailed redtube and it was taken down...

my question is, why should i support videosz when they support redtube..
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/800618-question-redtube-videosz-join-forces.html

bobby666 · 01-28-2008, 02:10 PM

PR2 for robbed content, not bad at all

xentech · 01-28-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornreviewsource

if you notify NA about this they can email redtube and it will be taken down..

someone found a braincash movie up there a couple weeks ago, braincash emailed redtube and it was taken down...

my question is, why should i support videosz when they support redtube..
https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/800618-question-redtube-videosz-join-forces.html

interesting...

NosMo · 01-28-2008, 02:27 PM

Nice of them to leave the 2257 info in the clip. You know nothing screams stolen content like a missing 2257.

Asshats, NA need to talk to them maybe with a couple of friends with baseball bats.

NosMo

PR_Sebas · 01-28-2008, 02:42 PM

let me know if u dont contact NA, ill try to get a hold of someone

Fap · 01-28-2008, 02:55 PM

Take down them tube sites

Balla4real · 01-28-2008, 03:05 PM

I think tube sites are bullshit, they don't pose a threat.
Tube site galleries don't give enough incentive for the user to buy a membership. Only way you can make money off a tube site is if you tag banners onto your gallery, such as aff or fling, some stupid shit like that.

Diligent · 01-28-2008, 04:19 PM

Balla, the issue most of us see is surfers "escape" to the Tubes cuz they mean "free quality wanking"..

But personally, I'm thinking and hoping they just vacuum up most freeloaders from us, so we can go about what we do with even better ratios.. ;)

NaughtyAce · 01-28-2008, 05:19 PM

Thank you, we'll have that taken down immediately.

I'm sorry that this was even up this long and we did not see it.

Does anyone know what it has a pr2 ranking for?

notoldschool · 01-28-2008, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC

.. Plus this link has been up so long it has a PR2!

Im glad I send them SE traffic.

NaughtyAce · 01-28-2008, 05:28 PM

I've just contacted Redtube and notices are going out to the search engines as well as to Redtube for the copyright infringement.
Please let me know if you ever see these, we do our best to take them down as quickly as possible.

Violetta · 01-28-2008, 05:38 PM

damn... that just suck. New world of porn

PR_Sebas · 01-28-2008, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyAce

I've just contacted Redtube and notices are going out to the search engines as well as to Redtube for the copyright infringement.
Please let me know if you ever see these, we do our best to take them down as quickly as possible.

hell yah.... finally a program that stands up for this crap... its just too bad not all programs do this... most try to profrt from these types of sites rather than take them down

Dirty F · 01-28-2008, 06:21 PM

Well, there are millions and millions of other people who will never visit that site. I highly doubt you will lose 1 penny because of that video.

mrwilson · 01-28-2008, 06:21 PM

least of your worries, passes to "na" are available on many sites too..

notoldschool · 01-28-2008, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornreviewsource

hell yah.... finally a program that stands up for this crap... its just too bad not all programs do this... most try to profrt from these types of sites rather than take them down

I agree. I am glad NA is diligant about this stuff though. They run a very tight ship.

96ukssob · 01-28-2008, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrwilson

least of your worries, passes to "na" are available on many sites too..

true and a lot of people forget about this problem as well as torrent sites

Fat Panda · 01-28-2008, 08:57 PM

Way to go NaughtyAce!

PostWhore · 01-28-2008, 09:04 PM

NOOOO!! dont email them, its my favorite movie!

Fat Panda · 01-28-2008, 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PostWhore

NOOOO!! dont email them, its my favorite movie!

it is pretty good,,,,,,but fuck the masses who get it for free!

Penny24Seven · 01-28-2008, 09:15 PM

you don't think other programs get their videos removed? I have someone that does a search a couple times a week on all of them for us. For the most part they all take the videos down pretty fast. Still a pain in the ass

Slick · 01-28-2008, 09:17 PM

And people thought TGPS were bad for the biz.

PR_Sebas · 01-29-2008, 07:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hookers and School Girls

you don't think other programs get their videos removed? I have someone that does a search a couple times a week on all of them for us. For the most part they all take the videos down pretty fast. Still a pain in the ass

awesome... like i said its about time programs are taking care of this stuff

Davy · 01-29-2008, 07:32 AM

Videosz is all over the tube sites atm.
I am thinking about removing their galleries from my tgp.

GITZINGER · 01-29-2008, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyAce

I've just contacted Redtube and notices are going out to the search engines as well as to Redtube for the copyright infringement.
Please let me know if you ever see these, we do our best to take them down as quickly as possible.

it's still up.

Dirty F · 01-29-2008, 07:41 AM

Cant believe me comment is totally ignored.

StarkReality · 01-29-2008, 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyAce

I've just contacted Redtube and notices are going out to the search engines as well as to Redtube for the copyright infringement.
Please let me know if you ever see these, we do our best to take them down as quickly as possible.

Awesome, great to see that you guys care! While you are at it, have a look at http://www.pornbb.org

You need an account to do a search, but "naughty america" shows me 281 matches...that's threads, not files.

lbc213 · 01-29-2008, 07:51 AM

Just do a search on google for any popular pornstars name, 9 times out of 10 their will be a tube, torrent or warez site on the first page.

hateman · 01-29-2008, 07:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAC

...complete 25 minute videos are all over tube sites just like this:

http://www.redtube.com/88

I couldn't make it past the first 2 minutes.

I wanted to punch that annoying cunt in the face.

TarPy · 01-29-2008, 09:17 AM

Yep. NA runs a good program. We're out here visiting them at the moment, and they've taken good care of us.

We couldn't ask for more professionalism and respect from their organization.

And since they've already helped us so much, I won't bother them with this, but anyone else in san diego that can hook a bro up with some smoke LOL

icq: 426504803

But, for real. Pichunter views this copyright infringement as a serious threat to existing freesite and paysite brands alike.

I would even argue that well after redTube takes this video down, there are still grounds for a solid suit.

Because, if you look at it this way, stealing everyone shit built them a brand, if they unsteal it, they have still already generated a lot of brand equity through leveraging stolen content that retains value after the content theft ends. So, if that equity was created with RK, NA, and BC material, shouldn't that equity be owned by RK, NA, and BC. Methinks so, and a court might well agree.

Watch out tub owners, they aren't the only ones that told me they are suing.

;-)

TheSenator · 01-29-2008, 09:29 AM

Webmasters shouldn't be searching out for stolen content.

http://www.redtube.com/88

Redtube has already caused immediate damages.

When a surfer finds a small preview clip at a site that promote Naughty America there is a like 1:500 chance that he would sign-up.

When a surfer finds the entire scene at Redtube there is no chance for a sign up.

PR_Sebas · 01-29-2008, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSenator

Webmasters shouldn't be searching out for stolen content.

http://www.redtube.com/88

Redtube has already caused immediate damages.

When a surfer finds a small preview clip at a site that promote Naughty America there is a like 1:500 chance that he would sign-up.

When a surfer finds the entire scene at Redtube there is no chance for a sign up.

I don't exactly get what you mean? Are you sayin' don't bother trying to stop them because surfers who find those sites are lost causes anyway?

If that is what you're saying I have to completely disagree. What about surfers who haven't found those sites yet ? Shouldn't we try to stop these tube sites before ALL porn buyers find these free sites?

I also hate the theory of "adapt or die" ... Legit tube sites are fine, sites with 1-3 minute clips, but these full length STOLEN content tube sites have to be stopped now.

If these full length tube sites never existed in the first place the porn world would be better off. Think of all the potential porn buyers that hit all these free sites now. Let's say 1,000,000 people hit these tube sites. If those tube sites never existed you'd have to figure 50,000 of them might consider paying for it. Which is 50,000 more members that paysites could have had.

All these full length free sites need to be stopped, or at least slowed down including; torrent sites, free porn forums and rapidshare/megatronic.

I think all these things need to be controlled or alot of the smaller paysites/programs won't be able to compete and will have to shut down.

jockboy60 · 01-29-2008, 10:57 AM

Yeah, I agree, the ones with the full show are bad, it can be a double edged sword.

seeric · 01-29-2008, 11:02 AM

i heard videosz is in bed with them.

any word on this?

PR_Sebas · 01-29-2008, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K

i heard videosz is in bed with them.

any word on this?

you heard correctly... well as far as I'm concerned... here is the thread I made about that...

https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/800618-question-redtube-videosz-join-forces.html

over38 · 01-29-2008, 11:21 AM

The movie is still up..................

GAMEFINEST · 01-29-2008, 11:34 AM

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

TarPy · 01-29-2008, 12:01 PM

Well, that's actually great news if VideoZ wants in bed with them.

Right now you can't get blood from the stone, but you gotta stop the stone.

If VideoZ ties their considerable assets to the infringment, it would be stupid of anyone not to sue for a slice of those assets.

TarPy

NaughtyAce · 02-04-2008, 04:44 PM

Video DOWN!

DigitalDruid · 02-04-2008, 05:43 PM

Damn...... I wanted to see it

Always kick ass videos

xmas13 · 02-04-2008, 06:37 PM

Every program must create its own anti-piracy department with a dozen $200/month Indians surfing tube sites and sending out notices.

tony286 · 02-04-2008, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NaughtyAce

Video DOWN!

there is another one first page

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Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	How can I promote Naughty America when... ...complete 25 minute videos are all over tube sites just like this: http://www.redtube.com/88 this particular video has been viewd almost 1,000,000 times! Plus this link has been up so long it has a PR2! ----> I am not just calling out NA...tube sites are full of practically ever sponsor imagineable... Last edited by Fat Panda; 01-28-2008 at 02:07 PM..

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NaughtyAce Traffic - Protect Content Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,482	I've just contacted Redtube and notices are going out to the search engines as well as to Redtube for the copyright infringement. Please let me know if you ever see these, we do our best to take them down as quickly as possible. __________________ Publisher manager http://Leads.TrafficHaus.com [email protected] Looking for Sales Support! - Contact Media Reps Looking for Traffic - Go to TrafficHaus.com Looking for Ad Block Prevention - Go to ReviveAds.com Looking for Copyright protection - Go to DigiRegs.com Looking for Video Marketing Software - Go to Partner.TrafficHaus.com

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