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CDSmith 01-25-2008 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Peaches (Post 13693184)
Whenever I've seen a prenup challenged, the challenger always seems to win - or at least win more than the prenup would have given them.

Personally I think they are false security for the partner who wants it.

And I'm with Holly on when they are and aren't appropriate :) Mine will say "And if the husband cheats on the wife, the wife gets EVERYTHING w/o question, period, end of discussion." :)

That is precisely why I am leaning towards having the prenup made "standard issue" and incorporated into the marriage process. The details it contains could still be negotiable prior to signing, but once it is drawn up and signed by both parties and witnessed, that's it. That way it's a fair and equitable binding agreement that both parties have to sign just like they have to sign their marriage license.

Thus, it's no longer a case of one party approaching and asking the other to sign a prenup, a thing that often causes strife in relationships (as is evident right here in this thread).

CDSmith 01-25-2008 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13696318)
I've already talked about this with my fiancee, and - though she was a bit startled at first - upon reflection and a bit of discussion - she's now more than happy to sign one.

We intend for our marriage to last forever... and the prenup will, primarily, work as a guide to help make sure we stay on task for the kind of life that we both want to build for each other and make that happen.

If one of us or the other starts slacking in some regard, the other can use it as a tool to say "hey - we're loosing focus"... and, if need be, as a last resort, a way to get out of the arrangement with less stress on everyone involved.

Quite exceptional. :D

I would say though that in many if not most relationships, when one party brings up the subject of a prenup it raises all sorts of red flags in the other person. A lot of people tend to view the concept of prenup as "planning to fail" instead of how you and your wife see it.

In this day and age of a 51% + divorce rate, many of which involve years of bitter lawsuits and court hearings and custody battles and vicious fights over property and money etc.... well, I am really starting to think that a mandatory prenup may be the way toward lessening some of the madness that goes on.

Would certainly cut down on the what's yours is mine and what's mine is mine mentality that some have these days. :D

SuzzyQ 01-25-2008 10:05 AM

My fiancee and I have a prenup. We spent months working on it with the lawyers. I pretty much is like a business contract. It lays out what we want to acomplish and what we expect of each other 3, 5 and 10 years out. Naturally, their is some lead way in the expectations. We even have life insurance on each other. Lawyers advice.

Our prenup is streight forward.
What we both had before the marriage is that persons if something goes wrong.
What is accumulated during the marriage is split 50/50.
Both of us are to have 'personal' bank accounts. A 'community' bank account that we are required to make deposits to every month.
We tried to go the extra mile to make sure that money was not going to be a problem in our marriage. I think we did good.

The key to a prenup is to really think out everything and get everything in writing.

sniperwolf 01-25-2008 11:14 AM

I am fine with prenuptial. Afterall, when you're ready to get married and be with your love-one forerver with clean intentions, don't think of the properties/assets you may get separated. :winkwink:

strobi 01-25-2008 12:27 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trust_law

Peaches 01-25-2008 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by strobi (Post 13697154)

One of my best friends said that the irrevocable trust her husband set up before his unexpected death was what basically kept her and her daughter out of the poor house.

If you have a spouse and kids and have large bills (mortgage, car, etc) this is something to look into, IMO.

Ayla_SquareTurtle 01-25-2008 01:45 PM

For me a prenup seems ridiculous, but then so does marriage. Aside from religious reasons, why else would you want to get married? Get a bunch of paperwork and the government involved in your personal life? what the fuck for?

Big_D 01-25-2008 01:47 PM

whats yours is mine and whats mine is mine

aico 01-25-2008 01:48 PM

Marriage is irrational behavior.

cherrylula 01-25-2008 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BVF (Post 13692570)
oh and one more thing...If you're considering marriage because SHE'S the one suggesting it, boot her now!

If she's talking some shit about wanting a commitment or that she can't wait around forever or that she might have to look elsewhere to somebody who WILL marry her, then you already know what to do.

Quoted for truth, and I am female. :1orglaugh

hateman 01-25-2008 01:59 PM

Why marry at all if you don't trust the other party?

BradShaw 01-25-2008 02:45 PM

True love, you dont need one.

jaysmoke 01-25-2008 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SWorldMegan (Post 13691748)
I am a women and i would not get married without one ... i also wouldn't be offended if someone asked for one.

There is no reason people shouldn't leave with what they brought into a marriage or split 50/50 what they did together. If my future husband has a company before we marry and we divorced .. the company should be his. Etc.

I think they are a VERY good thing. Always negociate with someone before it goes bad ... otherwise everyone ends up irrational.

Megan

Dear Megan
Please email me your ring size- ASAP !!!!

Barefootsies 01-25-2008 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CDSmith (Post 13691845)
What a romantic fairytale way to start their new life together.

Sounds so wonderful. :D


D 01-25-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jaysmoke (Post 13697782)
Dear Megan
Please email me your ring size- ASAP !!!!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

aico 01-25-2008 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BradShaw (Post 13697769)
True love, you dont need one.

True love shouldn't need a marriage contract either.

s9ann0 01-25-2008 04:13 PM

I think its a good idea in states / countries where the law says to split everythin 50/50 if it goes wrong

look at paul mccartney!!!

CDSmith 01-25-2008 04:18 PM

My best friend got married years ago, without a prenup. Divorced 7 years later.

The only thing that stuck long-term from that marriage is that HIS lawyer is now married to HER lawyer.

:D

Ayla_SquareTurtle 01-25-2008 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by aico (Post 13698119)
True love shouldn't need a marriage contract either.

exactly :2 cents:

jmcb420 01-25-2008 05:42 PM

fuck marrige. just live, love and when you cant deal with each other anymore, go fuck someone else. in my personal experience, that works better then a prenup.


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