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Mr. Deltoid 01-22-2008 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 13685443)
How much in fees do you think online trading companies have made in the last few weeks due to media hype?

If the media has motivated investors to trade at a higher rate, I imagine the brokers are profiting.

Frankly, I haven't been following the mass media lately.

warlock5 01-22-2008 11:18 PM

most clueless thread on GFY of the day.

L-Pink 01-22-2008 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by warlock5 (Post 13685480)
most clueless thread on GFY of the day.

Warren Buffet fake nic :1orglaugh

qxm 01-22-2008 11:27 PM

I guess this pic sums up the entire thread:

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brandonstills 01-23-2008 12:54 AM

I think Americans have better and better opportunities as time goes on but the fact is most Americans can't understand nor see the new economy. They are all working on old models that no longer apply. So they think the economy is shit when the reality is they have 5x the opportunities their grandparents had.

teomaxxx 01-23-2008 03:57 PM

great post and here comes one great repost for those who still dont get it:

"Look at all the data you want: in the end you will find that while corporate earnings rose as much as 40% per year, wage increases for working Americans came to a pittance (see chart below, click to enlarge). Businesses "did not share" and this is a monumental mistake that corporate America is going to regret for decades to come.

This is not a morality issue, either. It's not about ethically "bad" corporations vs. "good" workers - though I bet that's how it will ultimately play out when the political pendulum swings to populism. Instead, it's all about competence: if top managers don't have the common sense to pay workers enough to comfortably afford their own goods and services a la Henry Ford, then they are immensely incompetent businessmen, plain and simple. If they face dumping from abroad, then they should be screaming bloody murder to Washington, instead of sending campaign contributions.

Furthermore, making up lost earned income in the form of increased asset wealth is a fool's errand: financial asset ownership is highly concentrated to the top 5-10% of the population and real estate, though more evenly distributed, is not liquid enough to substitute for income. In fact, borrowing against housing "wealth" while incomes stagnated was the proximate cause for the current mess.

Washington needs to wake up. This is not their daddy's ho-hum recession but a virulent grand-daddy come to visit from the late-19th century. The trifecta of high debt-low income, zero saving and asset deflation cannot be overcome with low interest rates and pocket change. The credit crunch shows us that borrowing is part of the problem, not the solution, and panicky tax rebate proposals are proof that it is income that is lacking, not lower taxes.

from:
http://suddendebt.blogspot.com/2008/...-to-water.html


Simply companies are profitable then ever, largely due globalization, but when they dont share it, who is going to buy their products?

tony286 01-23-2008 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by teomaxxx (Post 13688596)
great post and here comes one great repost for those who still dont get it:

"Look at all the data you want: in the end you will find that while corporate earnings rose as much as 40% per year, wage increases for working Americans came to a pittance (see chart below, click to enlarge). Businesses "did not share" and this is a monumental mistake that corporate America is going to regret for decades to come.

This is not a morality issue, either. It's not about ethically "bad" corporations vs. "good" workers - though I bet that's how it will ultimately play out when the political pendulum swings to populism. Instead, it's all about competence: if top managers don't have the common sense to pay workers enough to comfortably afford their own goods and services a la Henry Ford, then they are immensely incompetent businessmen, plain and simple. If they face dumping from abroad, then they should be screaming bloody murder to Washington, instead of sending campaign contributions.

Furthermore, making up lost earned income in the form of increased asset wealth is a fool's errand: financial asset ownership is highly concentrated to the top 5-10% of the population and real estate, though more evenly distributed, is not liquid enough to substitute for income. In fact, borrowing against housing "wealth" while incomes stagnated was the proximate cause for the current mess.

Washington needs to wake up. This is not their daddy's ho-hum recession but a virulent grand-daddy come to visit from the late-19th century. The trifecta of high debt-low income, zero saving and asset deflation cannot be overcome with low interest rates and pocket change. The credit crunch shows us that borrowing is part of the problem, not the solution, and panicky tax rebate proposals are proof that it is income that is lacking, not lower taxes.

from:
http://suddendebt.blogspot.com/2008/...-to-water.html


Simply companies are profitable then ever, largely due globalization, but when they dont share it, who is going to buy their products?

excellent post:thumbsup


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