100 cool dudes with swimming pools!

Youre a fucking clown with 1 reason why you are in this thread and that is to attack me. You think i'm talking about 1 spot on 1 day? Maybe, just maybe i tried a LOT of passes and spots there in the past. Maybe i'm talking from experience when i say many spots there don't get enough traffic to justify the costs. Ever thought about that or did you get too much water in your brain from being soooooooooo fucking cool in your swimming pool?
Nah, you ignore it and find something else to attack me with.

Why don't you attack Mark for the fact that he sells spots on sites that skim the fuck out of their traffic. Isnt that more important than attacking me out of the blue?

Or does your asskissing guide tell you not to do that?

TGP banner traffic is worthless one way or another.Gallery submitting can bring money but banners nooooooo

Try to read what I am saying.
I have not looked at your galls in a while but I think you might still be submitting teen galls everywhere. Teen work on some and not on others.
I am not going to tell you which niches work on which mgp. You will have to use trial and error. Like the other people did. How many times do I have to tell you this through get through to your thick skull.

I get the impression I hurt your ego. Get over it and learn from what I am saying here. It might increase your income.

BTW I still love you and support your freedom of speach. Does that help?

I thought you were at you swimming pool .... SPLASH !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:1orglaugh

Teens? Well, i havent submitted galleries in months but when i did Teen was maybe 5% of my galleries. You don't have to tell me about niches and mgp's dude. I'm not sure where you keep getting the idea that i'm new to this.

Sorry but your attacks are based on nothing. Or you are confusing me with someone else.

And why do you KEEP ON FUCKING IGNORING what i said 10 times to you now:

Many of the spots or passes they sell simply don't send enough traffic. No matter what thumb, niche, link whatever.

You havent said a single word about this. You refuse to for some reason. And it's all i'm trying to say. This whole thread is based on that fact.

For some reason i have the feeling you will ignore this once again and come up with another random attack.

Me: Many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit. No matter what description, niche, thumb, gallery, sponsor.

PornoPat: You submit the wrong thumbs

Me: That has nothing to do with it because many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit.

PornoPat: You don't know how things work man, your descriptions suck.

Me: That has nothing to do with it because many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit.

PornoPat: You should learn how to design because you suck at galleries

Me: That has nothing to do with it because many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit.

PornoPat: You use the wrong sponsors

Me: That has nothing to do with it because many spots there can not send enough traffic to cover your costs or make profit.

Etc.

First of all I know a couple GTS guys from seeing them at shows. I have never done business with them. And I kiss no ones ass in the world.

I am going to try and treat you as an adult with a brain and 1 that actually has the power of common sense.

I have been doing traffic deals since 1998. IN matter of fact some people tend to think I happen to be pretty good at this.

To make it in this industry in sales you have to good by people and earn trust. There is 0 MONEY to made in quich shit deals if you want to stay in this biz awhile.

Prices for all traffic should be based upon "the heshy formula". That is if we as salespeople have a customer that keeps repeat buying at a certain price---thats the price its worth. Anyone who complains at that price --IM SORRY--but its your fault. It's up to you the buyer to make the most out of the traffic you purchase.

My way of dealing with a fucken pussy like you would be to give an extension and then you lose the right to do business with me anymore. I have people waiting in line to buy what ever deals I can furnish and the 1st thing I learned in this industry is to dump losers like you.

You sound like a typical sales nitwit. Read the thread again to allow your limited mental resources to slowly absorb the idea.

for from typical perkerhead

That is all you had to say.

You meant peckerhead? Hahaha, you idiot.

not in my opinion. I think its ruthless to come to a public forum and rip someones buisness. They have been in business awhile and have a great reputation from the big money buyers I know. Therefore I disagree with your opinion and I have never made 1 penny from GTS in my life

Far from an idiot---sometimes a moron ---but yes I did mean to say that you are a PECKERHEAD

But its no problem to screw people over. Because they bought you beers at a convention. Dumb fuck.

Howard, you are truly an imbecile.

Noone with an iq above 70 can deny that selling passes with which its impossible to make money back to name something or selling spots and "forget" to tell that site skims 40% of their traffic is fucking wrong. Yet imbeciles like you close their eyes and ears and ignore it and come in threads like this to kiss some ass and make sure they get some beers at the next convention.

People like you make me sick.

LOL...nah sorry.....if it was it was me doing the buying....

They didn't screw you over...You probably gave them the worst creative in the world that couldn't load or was so bad people just looked at it and SAID oh no dirty F must and paid for this advertisng so we cant join....we have to fuck Dirty F, he is the biggest loser have no life cock sucking live on gfy life


come on man---grow up--sometimes you win sometimes you lose

YOUR A FUCKEN CRYBABY---maybe you should go gay dude....

Keep ignoring everything i said in this thread. It makes you look real smart. Just like PornoPat. Ignore ignore ignore. Just hear what you wanna hear and ignore the rest. And kiss some ass in the meantime. Faggot.

na na na boo boo

LOL I am a faggot---you the 1 with the fleshlight banner---is that all you get?

A lot of people are off topic here.

Question: Does GTS inflate the numbers?

Let this serve as a reminder to the likes of howard

Who do you think has a better idea of the traffic, the site owners or a 3rd party without access to server stats?

now we are getting to the mature part of the conversation:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Care to recall that thread with teenmegacash who it was that showed the alexa cache to state it wasn't TMC that ripped off GTS? I do stand up to people when they are wrong, yes. I just don't think GTS is wrong here but rather the site owners if infact their traffic numbers aren't correct.
WG

The site owners aren't selling anything, GTS are. The burden of proof is on them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broker
WG

If I import laptops from a Chinese manufacturer and sell them to retail customers, quoting specs that I got from the manufacturer, who is to blame when it turns out it has an AMD processor instead of Intel as I have told my customers? I am, of course (even though I will have to sort things out with the manufacturer, but that's my problem, my customers never dealt with him).

Now, let's liken this metaphor a bit to the situation as it presents itself here. What would happen if I sold the laptops as if they were Dells (the manufacturer told me they are), but there's an HP logo on them? (Think Sextracker stats, complaining customers, etc)

Read better. From the same page: "A broker who also acts as a seller or as a buyer becomes a principal party to the deal. Distinguish agent: one who acts on behalf of a principal."

From what I understand some shit works and some shit does not.

People that think selling something shitty should get just as good numbers as something of quality need there money takin from them anyways.

Bump for mr korsakoff

Keep ignoring it. You are so cool when you do that.

Please leave this thread as you're only busy attacking me and fucking refuse the thing the things i said. Go take a piss in your pool please. You're annoying as fuck and as pathetic as it can get.

gts screwed me many years ago at webmaster access n LA. i looked for the proof on fubar - LA 2003 - and for some reason the photos were removed upon request.


me thinks it's a conspiricy

and you did it in as nice a way as possible and i dont think you said one thing bad about DH, if i remember right you pointed it more matter of fact.

What do you think about the FACT that Mark trashed TMC on SEVERAL other boards but on all those other boards he didn't bother to apologize or set the record straight? What does that make you think of his business or his character. To attack someone, threaten to ruin them, get them blacklisted from the internet, to get their ccbill processing removed... to throw their name and company out as scammers, and then when asshole finds out he is wrong he doesn't bother to make a post on all those other boards to set the record straight. What do you think of the way he handled that?

Imbecileboy, this is my last post where i respond to you unless you finally stop ignoring the real issues in this thread because im wasting way too much time your on idiotic replies.

What part about this don't you understand exactly?

Many of their spots/pass do not send enough traffic NO MATTER the thumb you're using, the descriptions you make or the gallery design or the sponsor to justify the costs.

Please answer me, what part does your tiny brain not understand about it? If you answer this i will explain it again to you. Once you get it then maybe you can stop fucking ignoring it like the little annoying kid you are and maybe say something about it. I know i know...i'm asking something insane here but who knows.

Howard for president :)

Cybercat was much better to deal with, A lot more friendly

thanks for sharing about GTS.

Why are you constantly replying twice to every single post I make?
Is this the way to get a high postcount?
It kind of contradicts when you say you are going to ignore me and then reply twice?

The part my tiny brain does not understand is how you can say that with paid spots it is impossible to make a profit where I and many others do.
The correct assumption would be that it is impossible for YOU to make a profit on them.
Can you follow that?

Can someone from GTS verify that the Celebrity Package 2 sites on submit passes get a combined traffic of 350k a day?? If they do I will buy.

I'm always amazed how celeb sites seem to convert well. (i never pushed it). Isnt all that content available all over the place? Google, forums, fan sites etc.

If i want to see a beyonce crotch shot i type in google images: beyonce crotch. Know what i mean?

I posted the fact, that's it. I'm not going to sit there and make an argument or tell other people what to do. That's up to them. I did see the comments posted on one other board and someone posted my gfy comments there as well so i didn't have to. Point is, I posted the fact and made it known that TMC was not the party that ripped them off. I'm not like you Will, I don't spend months and months campaigning against other people's businesses. I took 15 minutes out of my day to make the post and that was it. You will likely keep doing this for the next 12-18 months or until you find someone else to pick on. I don't play such games.
WG

Oh I know what ya mean, I don't care though as long as it converts just as good as other niches. What I want to know now though is if Submit Passes celebrity package has 350k traffic aday as it says. With 40k and 100k Alexa 350k sounds like way too much, but alexa can often be wrong....

Nicky, those sites dont get 350k, the #1 celebrity tgp site doesn't even get that.

Always had a feeling to not do business through gts for some reason..

Oh I know that :) I just want some GTS info about the traffic mentioned, I will buy a account if I like what I hear.

thanks for answering my question. So i take that as a " no comment" on what you think about DH and the way he handled the TMC matter on other boards.

I spend the same amount of time " campaiging against other people's businesses" as you do kissing their asses. You are wrong, you do play games, you play pin your lips on a bros ass when you post. You post here just as much as me. You try to be everyone's bro and never say anything to upset people, I call it like i see it. That's the only difference between us, its still the same "game".

and you will likely be kissing people's asses for the next 12-18 months...

Lol, aint that the truth. I neeeeeeeever take time out of my day trying to destroy or ruin someone elses business. I'm always too busy working on my own business. I guess some people out there are just born feeling it is their job to police the internet and other people's business practices. So much so, that they spend hours and hours, days and days trying to bring others down.