Case 1 - Program owners are acceptable with linking codes that credit XTube.

Case 2 - Not accepted*.

*XTube is taking control over it's outbound traffic. The BW is expensive and XTube is going to recoup that cost via partnerships only. Free content will be exclusively home-made with no outbound links.

Not true. There will certainly be a loss of content, but it is content users complain about, and there is more home-made content than pro/stolen content.

Users who want stolen shit can freely go, we don't want them as they're the ones who up it too. The community will adapt. XTube more complex than a basic tube - there is a whole community to it too.

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time for a new $10 per hour marketing person.


you're so full of shit. if you didn't want the pro shit on there, it would be gone. oh btw, when you do think about going in and removing cough cough "monitoring" your network for pro stuff, keep in mind, that shows that you do in fact monitor your network


bwahahahaha.

Very interesting to see if other tube sites with follow

This has been a standard feature for a long time. The challenge is following up with the user. We have an email and an IP, at minimum, both of which can be hard to work with for obvious reasons.

Ive been shooting porn for almost 8 yrs talk to lots and lots of people. There is very very little true amateur lets put it for kicks not profit porn in the world.

Just_in_Support I advice you to stay off the boards. Not only are you stealing (you're the one putting it up online) the content from webmasters, but you are insulting them.

You are directly costing a lot of people in this business money. And a lot of people that don't have much ethics... just like you.

It dosen't cost much to get rid of a problem... don't push too many people's button.

(this is in no way a threat, but just an advice)

With people like Just_in_Support I cant believe their rep got punched at Internext.

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Profiting from other's people hard work and investement (stolen content), insulting them and putting it on them.

Bottom line is that Xtube is mass distributing copyrighted material.

I know stolen content when I see it.
I think everybody does.

better get crackin' on removing that user uploaded full length stolen copyrighted content..

http://pcdnv4.xtube.com/watch_video....=XWhmbj XbSM_

DRM doesn't work you fucking idiot. I want to hit you too!

Anybody fancy a cup of coffee :)

Don't talk about me as if I am not here.

Tube sites popping up and stealing the traffic from other tube sites?

Awesome! Can you say IRONY?

"Hey, my traffic from stolen content idea is getting ripped off!"

Classic!

Ah, so WEBMASTERS uploading are POLLUTING your site ? That's a nice quote to remember ! :1orglaugh:helpme:mad:

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NosMo

affiliate relations 101


class is in session.

just out of curiousity, how do you plan on monitoring content stolen from "AMATEUR" paysites.

Not everyone runs "PRO" style paysites.

Kurtis...

It was great to meet you at Internext and discuss Xtube like true gentlemen.

However, this guy Just_In_Support is not representing Xtube very well.
He apparently thinks he knows more than all of us.
DRM sucks, everyone knows it.
Just because we don't use DRM doesn't mean it is ok to be a fence for stolen content.

I doubt if you can make a profit on it shooting new content. but who said you need to shoot new content? Seems to me there is more than enough content floating around and legal to make it work. I have 900 videos and 300 in the archives never seen on the net.

I can't get a new EE girl to do hardcore or shoot a BangBus scene, but a scene like 90% of what is out there, no need to shoot it.

The big question is this.

Will eliminating piracy solve the problem with Tube sites?

IMHO :2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents: :2 cents:

No because they will simply buy content, I have one chasing me at the moment for a price. do I sell to them or not? What will they pay? How will it effect my business? How many other content producers have been approached and sitting on content?

No the industry has driven down the quality and price of content to a level they it does no matter to many surfers and the Tube sites can afford to buy it. What if Xtube decide to buy my library for $20,000 or $50,000.

The industry does not buy from us, maybe we could sell to them!!!

Plus all the sites closing down. I hear all the time that a buyer should be able to resell content with the company or domain. What if the buyer is a Tube site?

The real issue for affiliates and sponsors is not stolen content, it's lost sign ups.

So use amateur content you give away for free to sell professional DVDs?

How long have you been doing this?

Really? Then why create a channel for Anime? Do you really get a lot of homemade anime porn submissions?

Almost all the top watched movies on the site were commercial oriented. Many stolen content, others clips from sites. It's hard to believe the focal point of the site was to cater toward the videos that aren't popular on XTube. Now the videos I see being added since the webmaster ban is a lot of dudes jerking off on cam. Do you not think this will hurt the site?

The pro/stolen content is what fills your top rated and most viewed lists. As of a few weeks ago, almost every video in those sections was stolen videos from members areas. Very little amateur/homemade content.

People didn't come to XTube to watch a guy jerk off on his homemade cam. They came for the shitload of stolen content and free professional videos. Sure it may adapt, and sure this might have been the plan all along. But it seems to me Xtube used the stolen content to build up its traffic and pulled the plug before the shit hit the fan.

Absolute bullshit. What you should say is many people will not be able to pay an inflated price for a product and service that is not worth it.

It's a great model, we made it a bad model. Why we made it bad and how we make it good is the question.

How do you know it's user generated if you don't monitor it? How do you know it's not underage performers if you don't monitor it? How do you stop someone suing you for putting up content they do not own, all be it amateur, if you don't monitor it?


Anyone can bring you down in days. Film a 16 year old, made up to look like a 21 year old and put it up. Legal to do that in some countries, illegal to pay her or get a model release. Then inform the police in your town you are a child pornographer. I would not do it, but sure some guy in Russia would for a $100. Why bother with a DOS attack?

Stop talking common sense while others are trying to talk BS!!

Stop talking common sense while others are trying to talk BS!! That goes for you as well.

Putting your business into the hands of anyone who decides to upload and what ever they choose plus relying on amateurs to keep supplying content is about the dumbest move ever.

That goes for you as well. :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Open invitation to Tube sites.

If you want to run a site showing porn. Then follow my signature and make me an offer I can't refuse. There are many other content providers who will do the same. The offer needs to be worth it.

If you say surfers will not pay for what we produce you are full of shit. Paysites exist where people do pay for it.

If you say you would not get the traffic numbers and think the only way you can get the traffic is off the back of people spending money to produce the content. Then fuck you buy the license off the producers. Don't fucking steal or allow others to steal and PROFIT FROM THEM.

If you can't afford to buy then fuck off and start submitting galleries like others who can't afford to open paysites.

You can on the other hand contact me about having free samples watermarked with my link underneath the video.

While you're right that content should be protected by DRM, it doesn't justify the content theft. And regardless of the DRM used, someone will crack it and redistribute. That's easily evidenced by the content on your site that was once upon a time protected by DRM.

SNOCAP fired over half it's staff late last year and has yet to accomplish anything significant. Rupture has been in beta for a year and has also yet to accomplish anything significant.

The solution to the problem came to me while I was driving. I can think clearer then.

Xtube want traffic to upsell to the DVDs and get advertising revenue from Webcam and dating sites. They don't want to be sued so cut of the webmasters and the amateur content is not going to get upsells to pro DVDs very well.

So why not put up full scenes from the DVDs?

Instant solution, they keep getting traffic to their full scenes, they know it's legal and it's better than content in the wrong niche.

Anyone see a problem with my idea?

actually he collects porches now. Sold his knowledge big time :)

You have to read that last post of mine and realise I'm a sarcastic clown.

Anyone considered this?

With all the sites closing and the content being sold for a song how long before Tube sites start buying them up?

Just had a contact from a guy who wants to sell up and get out. And he wants to sell the license with the content on the domain. What's to stop Xtube buying it and putting a Tube site on it?

I told the guy no way he can sell the license.

Looks like someone is broke and desperate to sell some content.

So my content is not saturated and everywhere. Thank for the tip.

so your question is seriously "what if someone buys content and puts it on a website"

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excellent news :thumbsup