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Ebola 01-13-2008 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13647170)
you must be reading that propaganda book Milk: The Deadly Poison.

.

Hey, I just looked that up. I don't drink milk and have no opinion on the matter, but interestingly enough, here's the author of "Milk: The Deadly Poison": He's a fat fuck with no neck. :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=tYpafipJyDE

halfpint 01-13-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13647244)
We have Canine teeth, but they are grouped with incisors teeth, unlike animals that eat other animals, they have incisiform teeth which are much sharper but can look like incisors (the front teeth).

This means we are designed to eat tough plants, nuts and soft meat, like fish.

What about somebody who is all gummy and has false teeth..its got to be a nightmare for them to eat tough plants and nuts. I am told that girls with false teeth give good blow jobs without thier teeth in though

donkevlar 01-13-2008 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 13647494)
Thats not true.
Cats and dogs will drink cows milk. And love it.
So will hogs

Only because we feed it to them.. Adult cats and dogs do not drink milk in nature.

D 01-13-2008 06:27 PM

We're fucking organic.

It doesn't matter as much _where_ we get our nutrition from so much as the fact that we get it.

Back in the day, milk was a good source of nutrition as it was renewable - with a quick turn-around time... and it was also a good use of resources, as milking a cow fed so many more than killing it for its meat. ... so we learned to make lots of tasty stuff with milk.

Milk, and all that stuff we learned to make with it, tastes good.

So, I consume dairy... and, frankly, I don't have a whole lotta regard for armchair nutritionists.

Even if it is "meant" for a calf - that don't mean that I can't eat it, too. That's as weak an argument as I've ever heard on the subject...

Chicken eggs are "meant" to grow up and be baby chickens, but I still think they taste pretty good cooked over-easy with some salt, pepper, and Tobasco. And you know what - it's nutrition... that's really all that matters. :2 cents:

Dvae 01-13-2008 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 13647517)
Only because we feed it to them.. Adult cats and dogs do not drink milk in nature.

Thats also not true.

I grew up on a dairy farm and there were occasions where cats would get the milk from the cow on their own, not by suckling but some cows if not milked on time especially after just having had a calf have swollen udders and the milk will squirt out on its own. Some cats are smart enough to lap the stream of milk, or lap it up from the ground where the cow had stood once she moved from that spot.

Pleasurepays 01-13-2008 07:05 PM

FACT: once again GFY "FACT" threads fails to deliver facts.

CC 01-13-2008 07:23 PM

I really don't understand why on earth people enjoy drinking nasty hormone-laden cow milk, when soy milk is readily available. Not to mention the cholesterol cow milk contains. Ew. Soy milk is healthier and tastes better, IMO.

ladida 01-13-2008 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CC (Post 13647677)
I really don't understand why on earth people enjoy drinking nasty hormone-laden cow milk, when soy milk is readily available. Not to mention the cholesterol cow milk contains. Ew. Soy milk is healthier and tastes better, IMO.

I saw how soy milk is beeing made. There's nothing "milk" in that. Plus, it tastes horrible, i almost threw up.

Pleasurepays 01-13-2008 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by CC (Post 13647677)
I really don't understand why on earth people enjoy drinking nasty hormone-laden cow milk, when soy milk is readily available. Not to mention the cholesterol cow milk contains. Ew. Soy milk is healthier and tastes better, IMO.


1) there is no such thing as soy "milk"
2) vegetable proteins are the worst source of protein
3) you can easily get organic milk at any supermarket
4) not everyone is a naive hippy with a dream

Pleasurepays 01-13-2008 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 13647682)
I saw how soy milk is beeing made. There's nothing "milk" in that. Plus, it tastes horrible, i almost threw up.

and i always loved the "its an aquired taste" remark

"aquired taste" means "it tastes like ass but if you eat enough of it, you'll be able to tolerate it"

CC 01-13-2008 07:51 PM

Of course it's not actual milk....it's made from soy. Duh :) That's just its name. I don't drink milk for protein, I drink it for calcium, vitamins, and because I like the way it tastes. I eat meat for protein. If you think I'm a hippy, that's pretty hilarious :)

tony286 01-13-2008 07:57 PM

breast milk on my cereal I dont think so . lol

TheDoc 01-13-2008 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ladida (Post 13647402)
Didn't mean you're a veggie, just some of the explanations you have are similar to what they use for reasoning. People are trying too much to scientifically disprove what has worked for centuries. Your grandparents example is rather an exception, if you took a case study of 1000 cases i'd wager. Also, i myself don't even think drinking and smoking are that unhealthy (if taken lightly, not smoking 4 packs a day) compared to some of the "healthy" food we can buy at supermarkets. I think our bodies are made so we can easilly dispose of all kinds shit we put in our organisms, as long as it's not "over a certain limit".

Agreed, within reason most people can dispose of problems, as long as they don't go to unhealthy in one direction. But we can see the limits that expose what these things can do to us, when people are allergic to things as an example, and to the other extreme a person can eat 10000 big macs and still come in at 100lbs just tosses it all off :)

EonBlue 01-13-2008 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 13647517)
Only because we feed it to them.. Adult cats and dogs do not drink milk in nature.

Because cats and dogs do not know how to domesticate cows, milk the cows, package the milk and put it in the grocery store for other cats and dogs to buy. :winkwink:

RedShoe 01-13-2008 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 13647019)
i drink 2 gallons a week.

healthy as a cow i am.

fucking doctors are amazed at how healthy i am based on my lifestyle.

eat healthy, DRINK MILK, and lots of water and party like a banshee.

i have the organs of a 20 year old i was told after my physical.

i don't listen to facts.

:P

BUUUUUULL SHIT!!

I was there remember?!?!?!

Your doctor said you have the dick of a 20 month old. Get your story straight! :winkwink:

GatorB 01-13-2008 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13646993)
Humans are not meat eaters, we just eat meat. Our bodies enzymes only break down foods one type at a time, starting with plants and often passing on-through most of the meat product.

It takes more energy to break red meat down than you get from it.

Fish is a different story.

Our bodies are built for both. We have canines. Only meat eaters have those.

Matt 26z 01-13-2008 08:30 PM

If it's natural, I don't have much of a concern in eating it. What gets me are all the additives, and it's pretty much impossible to avoid them unless you want to set up your own garden and hunt your own meat.

Pleasurepays 01-13-2008 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 13646993)
Humans are not meat eaters, we just eat meat. Our bodies enzymes only break down foods one type at a time, starting with plants and often passing on-through most of the meat product.

It takes more energy to break red meat down than you get from it.

Fish is a different story.

there is absolutely nothing true about what are saying.

in fact, its beyond absurd to suggest that any red meat has negative calories. there are only a handful of foods that do and they are all fruits and vegetables because they are mostly water, trapped in fiber.

you are basically saying "hey, you can lose weight by eating bacon for breakfast, lunch and dinner because the caloric yeild is similar to that of asparagas or celery"


:2 cents:

psili 01-13-2008 08:41 PM

Fact - this thread is a repeat discussion done x10 fold like all the others.
Why not start combining these "fact" threads for better views and varying discussion at least:

FACT: Only circumcised men need milk

or some shit like that. :(

Spunky 01-13-2008 08:43 PM

Milk does the body good..are you calling them liars? ;)

seeric 01-13-2008 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 13647816)
BUUUUUULL SHIT!!

I was there remember?!?!?!

Your doctor said you have the dick of a 20 month old. Get your story straight! :winkwink:

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ssssssssssssssssshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

lollllllll

latinasojourn 01-13-2008 09:52 PM

the idea that cow's milk is not "meant for humans" is a philosophical argument that does not fit within the model of evolution.

the fact is that the human specie is in a constant state of evolution, taking from the earth what is convenient or expediant for survival, and has consumed the milk of various domesticated animals for thousands of years.

and in the last 10,000 years or so (which is recent on the timeline of human evolution) human's have drunk lots of milk outside their specie and they have used the protein to their advantage.

if you had ONLY cow's milk as your single source of nutrition you would be hard pressed to find another source of nutrition that would keep you alive longer, and my guess would be that cow's milk would keep you alive even longer than human milk (unless you are an infant).

and perhaps goat milk would keep you alive even longer than cow's milk.

latinasojourn 01-13-2008 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 13647155)
It's probably worse than most junk food... Causes a long list of medical problems, has little nutritional value.. the bad outweighs the good.

Plus most "dairy" products ARE DEFINITELY junk foods. Cheese for one.. It's greasy, calorie filled delicious non-beneficial junk. Ice cream. Whipped cream. Butter. How is it not junk food?

And I haven't even got into milk's pus content yet, especially in mass produced milk.


true, you're better off limiting dairy after physical maturity, but not because it is a junk food, but because it can contribute to certain health issues.

lots of diary farmers who've drank whole milk all their lives have heart problems in adulthood.

After Shock Media 01-14-2008 12:50 AM

What I find funny in this thread is the anti red meat policy as well and how we were not designed to eat meat.

There are several breeds of native Indians that live in the arctic from the areas above Canada to above Russia. Their primary source of protein, fuel, minerals, salt, and even trace minerals comes from caribou and seal. Sure they often catch and dry some fish to boot, yet most everything they eat is caribou and seal. No real veggies, no soy milk, no wheat grass juice, just seal fat and caribou.

Drake 01-14-2008 01:02 AM

But it tastes so good! Though I only drink skim milk.

Megafoo 01-14-2008 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 13647476)
You've seen an adult cat suck milk out of a teet?

Or was it put there by a human?

The statement was about drinking milk not if they sucked for a teet

CC 01-14-2008 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by latinasojourn (Post 13648064)
if you had ONLY cow's milk as your single source of nutrition you would be hard pressed to find another source of nutrition that would keep you alive longer, and my guess would be that cow's milk would keep you alive even longer than human milk (unless you are an infant).

and perhaps goat milk would keep you alive even longer than cow's milk.

As far as long term human consumption goes, human milk > goat milk > cow milk. Goat milk is the closest milk to human milk though, yes.

NosMo 01-14-2008 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by CC (Post 13647677)
I really don't understand why on earth people enjoy drinking nasty hormone-laden cow milk, when soy milk is readily available. Not to mention the cholesterol cow milk contains. Ew. Soy milk is healthier and tastes better, IMO.

But how many poor Soy's were killed to make that milk?
No thank you, I will stick to veal and cheese sticks.


NosMo

pocketkangaroo 01-14-2008 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 13646914)
Milk from a cow is for infant cows and nothing else.

Humans and all mammals only need milk from their own species until their infancy is over and then thats it, done and done. No other species drinks another species' milk... It has no health benefit.

"But you need calcium to blah blah blah"... Nope, we're all good don't worry.

The worst shit is how the milk industry insists that dairy is an "essential food group" when really it's no better than junk food.

You're right that we don't "need" milk. We also don't "need" meat. We don't "need" a lot of foods. Our bodies can survive without a lot of stuff and make up for it in other areas.

But to say it has no health benefit is just silly. Sure we get calcium from other areas, but it doesn't mean it has no benefit. Milk has Vitamin D, something those of us in the Northern states need. It is high in protien and vitamins. There's a reason you see bodybuilders loading up on their milkshakes following a workout.

There's a ton of stuff that milk helps. Sure their marketing slogans are overdone and you technicality don't need it to live a healthy lifestyle. But drinking it is still good for you.

alby_persignup 01-14-2008 07:45 AM

I don't think that's true. I guess that facts are just pertaining to children or babies who are relying to formulated milk.

steved 01-14-2008 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 13647389)
Whats a good source of calcium other than milk?

Soy Milk is good.

Gerco 01-14-2008 08:04 AM

Soy milk taste like shit. Simple as that. I drink milk, I'm over 40 and I LOOK 30. (Might be the milk, might be the whiskey and cigs). I drink milk because I want to. I like the taste of it, and it go with some foods better than any other beverage I can think of, cake or cookies being an example. I also eat meat... If you have ever seen cows teeth, or horse teeth... then you will know what teeth look like in an animal thats spouse to only eat veggies. Do a little simple comparison of our teeth to other animals in nature, they are more like dog teeth, lion teeth and other "meat" eaters. Point made. If you somehow believe otherwise... fine. Eat you veggies and leave the steak for me.

http://www.psych.utah.edu/~sc4002/ps...ll_farside.jpg

steved 01-14-2008 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Gerco (Post 13649103)
Soy milk taste like shit. Simple as that. I drink milk, I'm over 40 and I LOOK 30. (Might be the milk, might be the whiskey and cigs). I drink milk because I want to. I like the taste of it, and it go with some foods better than any other beverage I can think of, cake or cookies being an example. I also eat meat... If you have ever seen cows teeth, or horse teeth... then you will know what teeth look like in an animal thats spouse to only eat veggies. Do a little simple comparison of our teeth to other animals in nature, they are more like dog teeth, lion teeth and other "meat" eaters. Point made. If you somehow believe otherwise... fine. Eat you veggies and leave the steak for me.

http://www.psych.utah.edu/~sc4002/ps...ll_farside.jpg

8th Continent Chocolate Soy Milk is good. Milk has puss in it:)

Boobs 01-14-2008 08:24 AM

i agree :2 cents:

steved 01-14-2008 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by steved (Post 13649140)
8th Continent Chocolate Soy Milk is good. Milk has pussin it:)

How much pus is in Milk?

Scott McD 01-14-2008 08:50 AM

I wonder who was the first person to discover how to milk a cow.

And what the hell did he think he was doing in the first place ??

cool1 01-14-2008 08:54 AM

I have not drank milk for 32 years and it has had no effect on my health.
I do eat cheese though cause it taste good.

steved 01-14-2008 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by cool1 (Post 13649232)
I have not drank milk for 32 years and it has had no effect on my health.
I do eat cheese though cause it taste good.

Cheese is concentrated pus:) Though it is great on pizza.

D 01-14-2008 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by steved (Post 13649243)
Cheese is concentrated pus:)

No, it's not.

The ignorance displayed in this thread (in some cases) continues to confound me.

nico-t 01-14-2008 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler (Post 13647263)
Yeah, I read somewhere that milk is the leading cause of autism. I told my friend who has an autistic daughter about it and he stopped giving her milk. Needless to say her condition improved drastically.

serious? didnt know that

D 01-14-2008 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by nico-t (Post 13649269)
serious? didnt know that

The thing is... no one _knows_ what causes autism right now... there are _many _speculations, though... and I'm guessing this is one.

seeric 01-14-2008 09:50 AM

oh boy, intelligence and logic wise this thread has gone downhill.

florin 01-14-2008 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RedShoe (Post 13646929)
we're the only species on the planet that continues to drink milk after we're weened of the tit.

Now then.. if I could just find me a few wet nurses, I could go right back to the tit in a heartbeat.

:1orglaugh

EonBlue 01-14-2008 10:00 AM

Milk itself is not linked to autism. It is the by-product of an allergic reaction to milk (and gluten) that is linked to autism.

So avoiding milk because some people are allergic to it would be like avoiding peanuts, nuts, eggs, wheat and fish because some people are allergic to them.

CyberHustler 01-14-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by EonBlue (Post 13649427)
Milk itself is not linked to autism. It is the by-product of an allergic reaction to milk (and gluten) that is linked to autism.

So avoiding milk because some people are allergic to it would be like avoiding peanuts, nuts, eggs, wheat and fish because some people are allergic to them.

I'm just saying... Parents should stop shoving bottles of cow milk into their babies mouths unless they know for a fact their baby isn't allergic to gluten. I don't see anything wrong with anyone drinking milk on their own free will, but if something in the milk is linked to autism in infants then...

steved 01-14-2008 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13649256)
No, it's not.

The ignorance displayed in this thread (in some cases) continues to confound me.

It was a joke:)

Anyway, milk and cheese are not good for you, if you have too much of it. Neither is getting drunk or smoking pot. 2 people died in my area last week from drinking bad milk. Whittier Farms Milk, it's good, most of the time.

http://www.milforddailynews.com/homepage/x2133873242

D 01-14-2008 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by steved (Post 13649469)
It was a joke:)
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Ahh. OK.

Cheese as cultivated pus, though?

:upsidedow

steved 01-14-2008 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by D (Post 13649536)
Ahh. OK.

Cheese as cultivated pus, though?

:upsidedow

I got it from here

"Ten pounds of milk are used to make one pound of cheese. Cheese is concentrated pus."

"the average liter of milk in America contained only 323 million pus cells"

" USDA does not allow milk containing 750 million or more pus cells per liter to be shipped across state borders."

It's all true, and a little gross, but that's not why I don't drink milk.

D 01-14-2008 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler (Post 13649451)
I'm just saying... Parents should stop shoving bottles of cow milk into their babies mouths unless they know for a fact their baby isn't allergic to gluten.

Gluten allergies suck.

So many people - unable to drink beer.

:(

If you're talking about a reaction to gluten (as indicative of autism), my past bit of study on the subject told me that gluten allergies are, generally, rare... are generally genetically limited to Scandinavian blood-lines, and affect one's life much more significantly than just in the case of milk. For instance, most grains would also need to be removed from the kid's diet.

_Richard_ 01-14-2008 10:45 AM

cats drink milk all the time..


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