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Old 01-10-2008, 05:22 AM   #1
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Why would you want Obama as President? (I Wouldn't)

So it turns out the guy has been hiding his real heritage from the american people. Here is an article from

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Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a Madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage?

This is the question Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s camp is asking about Sen. Barack Obama.

An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia.

"He was a Muslim, but he concealed it," the source said. "His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign."

When contacted by Insight, Mr. Obama’s press secretary said he would consult with “his boss” and call back. He did not.

Sources said the background check, conducted by researchers connected to Senator Clinton, disclosed details of Mr. Obama's Muslim past. The sources said the Clinton camp concluded the Illinois Democrat concealed his prior Muslim faith and education.

"The background investigation will provide major ammunition to his opponents," the source said. "The idea is to show Obama as deceptive."

In two best-selling autobiographies—"The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" and "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance"—Mr. Obama, born in Honolulu where his parents met, mentions but does not expand on his Muslim background, alluding only to his attendance at a "predominantly Muslim school."

The sources said the young Obama was given the name Hussein by his Muslim father, which the Illinois Democrat rarely uses in public.

His father was black and came from Kenya. Mr. Obama’s mother, the daughter of a farmer, came from Wichita, Kansas. Mr. Obama's parents divorced when he was two years old. His father returned to Kenya.

Later, Mr. Obama's mother married an Indonesian student and the family moved to Jakarta. Mr. Obama returned to Hawaii when he was 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.

The sources said the background check concerned Mr. Obama's years in Jakarta. In Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a Madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim. Although Indonesia is regarded as a moderate Muslim state, the U.S. intelligence community has determined that today most of these schools are financed by the Saudi Arabian government and they teach a Wahhabi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims.

Although the background check has not confirmed that the specific Madrassa Mr. Obama attended was espousing Wahhabism, the sources said his Democratic opponents believe this to be the case—and are seeking to prove it. The sources said the opponents are searching for evidence that Mr. Obama is still a Muslim or has ties to Islam.

Mr. Obama attends services at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago’s South Side. However, he is not known to be a regular parishioner.

"Obama's education began a life-long relationship with Islam as a faith and Muslims as a community," the source said. "This has been a relationship that contains numerous question marks."

The sources said Mr. Obama spent at least four years in a Muslim school in Indonesia. They said when Mr. Obama was 10, his mother and her second husband separated. She and her son returned to Hawaii.

"Then the official biography begins," the source said. "Obama never returned to Kenya to see relatives or family until it became politically expedient."

In both of his autobiographies, Mr. Obama characterizes himself as a Christian—although he describes his upbringing as mostly secular.

In “The Audacity of Hope,” Mr. Obama says, "I was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother as secular, but says she had copies of the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita in their home.


Mr. Obama says his father was "raised a Muslim, but by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist...." Mr. Obama also describes his father as largely absent from his life. He says his Indonesian stepfather was "skeptical" about religion and "saw religion as not particularly useful in the practical business of making one's way in the world ...."

In the book, Mr. Obama briefly addresses his education in Indonesia. "During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school; in both cases, my mother was less concerned with me learning the catechism or puzzling out the meaning of the muezzin's call to evening prayer than she was with whether I was properly learning my multiplication tables."

Mr. Obama graduated from Columbia University and Harvard Law School; he became the first black editor of the Harvard Law Review. He later settled in Chicago, joined a law firm and began attending and helping local churches.

Mr. Obama is married to Michelle Robinson and they have two daughters, Malia and Sasha. In 1996, he was elected to the Illinois state Senate. Eight years later, he became a U.S. senator from Illinois.

The sources said Ms. Clinton regards Mr. Obama as her most formidable opponent and the biggest obstacle to the Democratic Party’s 2008 presidential nomination. They said Ms. Clinton has been angered by Mr. Obama's efforts to tap her supporters for donations.

In late 2006, when the Illinois senator demonstrated his intention to run for president, the Clinton campaign ordered a background check on Mr. Obama, the sources said. Earlier this week, Mr. Obama established an exploratory committee, the first step toward a formal race.
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:41 AM   #2
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I'd say his chances of becomming prez are next to none
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Old 01-10-2008, 05:44 AM   #3
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So whats so bad about being a muslim? You think they all are terrorists or something? Obama can be a first black president. Why not. But personaly I'd vote for Hillary. But then who am I to even judge that? :D
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So whats so bad about being a muslim? You think they all are terrorists or something? Obama can be a first black president. Why not. But personaly I'd vote for Hillary. But then who am I to even judge that? :D
No but why is he hiding it? he is acting like it was never a part of his life
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I'd say his chances of becomming prez are next to none
wake up and smell the coffee. That article doesn't change my mind at all. I'm glad he understands Muslims, They are one of the largest religions in the world, besides this article is saying Muslim=evil???...not a good idea to bridge our country's differences. To me this ADDS to OBAMA 's expereince
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No but why is he hiding it? he is acting like it was never a part of his life
I've heard him mentioning his religious roots a couple times, Obama supporters already heard this...nothing new
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The Article,,,, its poster and wherever its non source came from are all bullshit

... the man is not a muslim

I hate dumb people
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I've heard him mentioning his religious roots a couple times, Obama supporters already heard this...nothing new
K but it will never happen, sorry nina
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The Article,,,, its poster and wherever its non source came from are all bullshit

... the man is not a muslim

I hate dumb people
He has said many times himself that his roots are from muslim but denied that he ever studied it
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No but why is he hiding it? he is acting like it was never a part of his life
You know, maybe its because he doesn't want people to talk about it. Because for istance rednecks that know nothing about the Islamic religion will instantly rate him as "terrorist" after they hear about his background. Not that he is hiding it, media will dig it out anyway, but he just doesn't really bring it up front in order to not to upset the 'dummies'.
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That 'investigation' into his religion just shows what type of people Hilary and her staff are. Why should he have to reveal his Muslim heritage, if we are supposed to have separation of church and state?

I always hated politicians that run these tasteless smear campaigns, which is pretty much all of them I guess.

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You know, maybe its because he doesn't want people to talk about it. Because for istance rednecks that know nothing about the Islamic religion will instantly rate him as "terrorist" after they hear about his background. Not that he is hiding it, media will dig it out anyway, but he just doesn't really bring it up front in order to not to upset the 'dummies'.
Now thats the best response I have heard so far, this is what I like to hear when someone has something good to say, not a few of the other posters who all the sudden snapped and said its a lie(read above)
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To, that 'investigation' into his religion just shows what type of people Hilary and her staff are. Why should he have to reveal his Muslim heritage, if we are supposed to have separation of church and state?

I always hated politicians that run these tasteless smear campaigns, which is pretty much all of them I guess.

bleh

That is also true, but i guess this is whats been done since the begining, find what you can and start posting it about the other runners, it can be good or bad depending on what they find
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He has said many times himself that his roots are from muslim but denied that he ever studied it



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lol my grandmother was a catholic does that make me one??

I am sure quite a few GFYers have parents who believed in some religion or another.... does that mean they believe in the same??

Like I said... you ,, the article and anyone who listens to such nonsense are idiots lol
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lol my grandmother was a catholic does that make me one??

I am sure quite a few GFYers have parents who believed in some religion or another.... does that mean they believe in the same??

Like I said... you ,, the article and anyone who listens to such nonsense are idiots lol


are you an idiot, he admits to having gone to muslim school growing up as a kid and his dad taught him as a muslim kid, dude seriously get your head out of your ass
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dear satan,

with all due respect, dont you come from a muslim background? i would guess you would be more lenient in this regard

btw, thats probably the email that hillary has been sending out, ive heard about it.
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Who gives a shit? Th USA needs to stop focusing so hard on religion when deciding on a presidential candidate. Thats where a lot of the world's problems come from, countries putting too much weight on religion. There is nothing wrong with the Muslim religion. Just some wacked out Muslin extremists have warped the USA's view of the entire religion. Even Christianity has its wacked out extremists that think its ok shoot up / blow up abortion clinics.

Stop putting so much weight on it. A lot of people change their religion, some many times throughout life. A lot of people, especially children are FORCED into a religion at a young age by their parents and then only when they are older do they decide on their own what they want to do.

I am not saying vote for Obama, but I am saying STFU

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dear satan,

with all due respect, dont you come from a muslim background? i would guess you would be more lenient in this regard

btw, thats probably the email that hillary has been sending out, ive heard about it.
muslim background? no sorry i am Catholic
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muslim background? no sorry i am Catholic
whoops, my bad, you looked like you were from the middle east
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whoops, my bad, you looked like you were from the middle east
may i ask who you are? since you know what I look like, have i met you before?
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wake up and smell the coffee. That article doesn't change my mind at all. I'm glad he understands Muslims, They are one of the largest religions in the world, besides this article is saying Muslim=evil???...not a good idea to bridge our country's differences. To me this ADDS to OBAMA 's expereince
I did not know you spoke for everyone.

It is my opinion that this information will hurt him.
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well, well have a drink at this coming show

ive seen pictures of you on the board, never met in person. i like to try to guess backgrounds
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well, well have a drink at this coming show

ive seen pictures of you on the board, never met in person. i like to try to guess backgrounds
you were close but im not muslim, find me at the show, I will buy you a drink and we can chat, log on icq i hit you up
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sounds good, running out for a bit, but ill be back

didnt mean to hijack the thread, back to it!
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I don't want him for prez but who gives a shit if he's muslim? First Romney gets crap because he's the wrong kind of Christian now Obama. As an atheist there is no hope of anyone of my beliefs ever becoming President if people that actually believe in God can't get elected because they believe in God the "wrong" way.
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I don't want him for prez but who gives a shit if he's muslim? First Romney gets crap because he's the wrong kind of Christian now Obama. As an atheist there is no hope of anyone of my beliefs ever becoming President if people that actually believe in God can't get elected because they believe in God the "wrong" way.
that is very true, like i said earlier though, i have other reasons for not wanting him but this is the USA each person votes for who he wants, I just hate when people bitch about the president and then you ask them who they voted for and they say "I didnt vote" THEN DONT FUCKING BITCH ABOUT IT
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didnt mean to hijack the thread, back to it!
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you dumb fucks know nothing about the muslim religion

it encourages people to force others into believing in the same thing even if brutal force needed to make it happen
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it encourages people to force others into believing in the same thing even if brutal force needed to make it happen
Ah sarcasm. Or irony. whichever.
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I did not know you spoke for everyone.

It is my opinion that this information will hurt him.
aren't your from Canada, sorry but your voice is empty here in the states
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His middle name is Hussein.
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His middle name being Hussein has been brought up multiple times even on this board.
Him living in Jakarta and going to a muslim school has been mentioned before also. None of the info in that "report" is new.
If you were considering voting for him and you didn't already know that then you must not have done any research.
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My dad says "Once an Arab, always an Arab."
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Hmm, why would I want Obama to be President you ask? Because he is not George fucking Bush.

(and I don't even want obama)
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because Indonesia is an Arab country ....
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I doubt there's hidden muslim agenda in him... I would welcome him as President, just to shut the blacks up with their whining for at least 4 years.
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opinion not voice. ever have an interest in world politics?
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No but why is he hiding it? he is acting like it was never a part of his life
He is obviously a plant by Al Qaeda. It's amazing that they have worked their way that far up in the ranks of our government without being detected.



That should set off some tinfoil hat alarms.
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I would just like to see the first black president in the us. About fucking time
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:13 AM   #43
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Answer Hell No, No Black Muslim President...fuck That Shit!
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:16 AM   #44
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I just showed this thread to Obama. You wouldn't believe his reply: "Allah ackbar GFY!"
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:17 AM   #45
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I would just like to see the first black president in the us. About fucking time
How many black prime ministers has Norway had?
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:20 AM   #46
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That is the problem with the world, everyone is so interested in issues that mean fuck all.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:22 AM   #47
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Don't worry, he won't be President. Not this time around anyway.
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:49 AM   #48
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politicians slinging mud to eachother to get it to reach the media, to get people to discuss it. This thread is the proof this good old tactic still works.

Dont be sheep!
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Old 01-11-2008, 10:52 AM   #49
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Satan I figured you were smarter than that to believe the hate shit. He never went to Muslim school or was Muslim.Please dont tell me you believe the manchurian candidate bullshit about him also that is a plant for Muslims to take over our country.

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Old 01-11-2008, 10:54 AM   #50
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i knew about this shit a long time ago. It was mentioned in Time for christ's sake. I think Satan's doing a real bad job hiding his "inbred" heritage. Because imbreeding has to be the only cuase for this type of stupidity.
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