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Damian_Maxcash 01-10-2008 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by venus (Post 13632134)
maxcash is one of the companies that is directly responsible for so much mistrust people have in adult websites. I know allot of people here were not running sites back in 1999 and others have forgotten.

http://www.ftc.gov/os/2000/10/rjbtelcomcomplaint.htm

MaxCash used a dialler back in the 90's. Everyone used a dialler back in the 90's it was standard. :2 cents:

venus 01-10-2008 12:50 AM

No it wasn't, not everyone used dialers, honest programs knew they were bad and did not touch them. But dialers was not the only complaint by the FTC.

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13632151)
MaxCash used a dialler back in the 90's. Everyone used a dialler back in the 90's it was standard. :2 cents:


Damian_Maxcash 01-10-2008 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by venus (Post 13632175)
No it wasn't, not everyone used dialers, honest programs knew they were bad and did not touch them. But dialers was not the only complaint by the FTC.

Most did.... enough to call it standard in fact :)

It was 99 and larger companies where held up re chargebacks - we have %'s that we have to adhere to now - then it was the quantity, big players where being hit all over the place.

Sarah_Jayne 01-10-2008 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by check (Post 13630298)
They're not one person. They have big network.

Their stats list included 52 pps only sponsors and you're the #1 bad ...


And we are #1 GOOD for many others...your point?

Sarah_Jayne 01-10-2008 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13630983)
No doubt MaxCash was amongst the most successful programs back in the
day, not THE most successful but defenitely in the top 50 at that time
but that's not enough to make me believe these kind of numbers. And any
really successful program owner I doubt they'll dissagree.

In the top 50 in those days? Um go a bit higher.

Sarah_Jayne 01-10-2008 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paparazzi (Post 13631638)
MaxCash is fuckin oldschool :)
The brothers still behind it?

Indeed they are :)

Damian_Maxcash 01-10-2008 05:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Sarah_MaxCash (Post 13632758)
In the top 50 in those days? Um go a bit higher.

A LOT higher :)

Ab Male was my first non AVS sign up....

Its funny now that I am overseeing the redevelopment of the same site.

alymaxcash 01-10-2008 06:02 AM

I've been with MC since 1998 - been in the industry since 1996....I've seen a lot of stuff go on...including MC paying out webmasters half a billion. The number is not misrepresented. And as Rich so eloquently puts it, if you don't accept what I know, no matter.

Venus - you couldn't be more wrong. After a full investigation, we were cleared and that just brought about more respect and trust from the webmaster community. Not many companies could go through scrutiny like that and come out of it in tact.

Paparazzi - absolutely, they are here : )

But back to Damian's point here : )) ..... you want in on some of the payouts, then sign up. FLM's are going like hotcakes and we have much great stuff coming out in 2008 ! Make more money. Period.

marcjacob 01-10-2008 06:03 AM

Well I got my links up to your gay sites last night (thanks for helping me Sarah!). I really hope you work out for me, its a nice model.

EthnicLover 01-12-2008 01:55 AM

Wow, it seems like it would have been quite a ride to have been in the industry in the nineties. What's amazing about the Internet and affiliate marketing is that it's barely over a decade old! Plenty of opportunity.

BradShaw 01-17-2008 02:28 PM

$500 million easy, I have made millions alone from them over the years and sure I am hardly in the top 20.

Sarah_Jayne 01-17-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BradShaw (Post 13663188)
$500 million easy, I have made millions alone from them over the years and sure I am hardly in the top 20.

But Brad you must by lying. ;)

Meloman 01-17-2008 02:49 PM

Server Genious you're wrong. Maxcash was faaaaaaaar bigger than private and clubseventeen online. Back in the early years (96-2000) anywhere you looked you saw Maxcash sites. Every traffic source out there was advertising Maxcash sites. EVERYONE.

Private was nothing more than video feeds leased inside members areas.
Clubseventeen was ONE single teen paysite. There mainstream counterparts may have been big, but they were small fish online in the big picture. Those companies were no were promoted to the same extent as Maxcash sites.

Server Genious, you're basing your opinion on what you saw at 2 companies that you "believe" were at the top of the game back then...what you don't realize is that they were small compared to the competition.

Enough of my rant. Maxcash Rocks! Hey Aly :thumbsup

beemk 01-17-2008 02:58 PM

i believe it, they have been around longer than any other program i think. i dont promote them now, but back when i first started they were pretty much the only guys to promote, that was probably 10 or 12 years ago.

maxcash bought me my first car when i was 16 or 17.

Unified Stats Jim 01-17-2008 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 13663297)
Server Genious you're wrong. Maxcash was faaaaaaaar bigger than private and clubseventeen online. Back in the early years (96-2000) anywhere you looked you saw Maxcash sites. Every traffic source out there was advertising Maxcash sites. EVERYONE.

Exactly. Anyone remember the accepted Alexa of the day way back when..I forget the name? In 97-99 it was an all out battle between KarasXXX and CyberErotica for the largest adult site and not much else was even close in the running. The numbers were staggering..and like today, the graphs from that site were posted pretty often..

Damian_Maxcash 01-28-2008 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Unified Stats Jim (Post 13663599)
Exactly. Anyone remember the accepted Alexa of the day way back when..I forget the name? In 97-99 it was an all out battle between KarasXXX and CyberErotica for the largest adult site and not much else was even close in the running. The numbers were staggering..and like today, the graphs from that site were posted pretty often..

Karas is still big - but in those days you could actually talk about those 2 sites getting a large % of the traffic on the whole internet....

Crazy days...

ServerGenius 01-28-2008 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Meloman (Post 13663297)
Server Genious you're wrong. Maxcash was faaaaaaaar bigger than private and clubseventeen online. Back in the early years (96-2000) anywhere you looked you saw Maxcash sites. Every traffic source out there was advertising Maxcash sites. EVERYONE.

Private was nothing more than video feeds leased inside members areas.
Clubseventeen was ONE single teen paysite. There mainstream counterparts may have been big, but they were small fish online in the big picture. Those companies were no were promoted to the same extent as Maxcash sites.

Server Genious, you're basing your opinion on what you saw at 2 companies that you "believe" were at the top of the game back then...what you don't realize is that they were small compared to the competition.

Enough of my rant. Maxcash Rocks! Hey Aly :thumbsup

I didn't base my opinions on the 2 companies I worked before.....
500 Millions affiliate payout is just too much to believe until I see it :thumbsup

Damian_Maxcash 01-28-2008 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13707108)
I didn't base my opinions on the 2 companies I worked before.....
500 Millions affiliate payout is just too much to believe until I see it :thumbsup

I am pretty sure we could burn through a few servers trying pull those stats :)

ServerGenius 01-28-2008 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13707121)
I am pretty sure we could burn through a few servers trying pull those stats :)

Why you have those stats already...no need to pull anything...:winkwink:

ServerGenius 01-28-2008 07:03 AM

lol I'll quit replying in this thread.....by saying that at least the half a billion statement is clever marketing :thumbsup

Without a doubt it will bring them closer to their claim :1orglaugh

Damian_Maxcash 01-28-2008 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13707125)
Why you have those stats already...no need to pull anything...:winkwink:

I dont think they just looked it up in the stats program - I doubt that a lot of the stats even exist in that format any more.

I think it was more to do with our accounts dept and their records...

ServerGenius 01-28-2008 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13707140)
I dont think they just looked it up in the stats program - I doubt that a lot of the stats even exist in that format any more.

I think it was more to do with our accounts dept and their records...

ok then 1 final reply :winkwink:

Yeah you're right....which makes it even easier to ask your boss just for a
screenshot of this great result.....since it's not a secret to post it it shouldn't
be a problem to post a pic of this awesome achievement no?

RomaCash 01-28-2008 07:18 AM

any bank statements available to proof such huge budget :)

Damian_Maxcash 01-28-2008 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ServerGenius (Post 13707156)
ok then 1 final reply :winkwink:

Yeah you're right....which makes it even easier to ask your boss just for a
screenshot of this great result.....since it's not a secret to post it it shouldn't
be a problem to post a pic of this awesome achievement no?

So you want a screenshot of our accounts for the last 10+ years?

I could ask but I think that might come under the heading of 'Sensitve Information' :upsidedow

Lets face it, the only way I could 'prove' it is to let you come in and give us a full audit - I am not sure they would like that either. :1orglaugh

ServerGenius 01-28-2008 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Damian_Maxcash (Post 13707190)
So you want a screenshot of our accounts for the last 10+ years?

I could ask but I think that might come under the heading of 'Sensitve Information' :upsidedow

Lets face it, the only way I could 'prove' it is to let you come in and give us a full audit - I am not sure they would like that either. :1orglaugh

Fly me in business class and show me parts of the books with total numbers
all other data can be blanked out.....and I'll make a big announcement how
wrong I was and what an awesome milestone MaxCash has reached.....

Think about the marketing value of such stunt.....and only for the price
of a Business Class Ticket, hotel costs and some other minor expenses.

Contact me for my info required to book my plane ticket :winkwink::1orglaugh:thumbsup

If it turns out to be correct I'll refund all my expenses and pay for them myself....how does that sound?

ServerGenius 01-28-2008 11:27 AM

can I start packing yet?

mn 01-28-2008 11:43 AM

they don't lie - back then any porn domain visited you had a bigger chance finding a maximumcash banner than hitting red or black on roulette.

but you still owe me money for two bounced checks (FTC issue) :)

Dagwolf 01-28-2008 01:30 PM

That's a lotta bucks


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