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Tubecgi

The first to use hosted gallery videos as content.
The first to crawl hosted galleries for content
The first to not need user upload
The first to come with 3 templates in 40 colors
The first to import sponsor embeded flash video
The first to do a lot more.........etc...

And coded by the same programmer who coded econfirmpro
( http://econfirmpro.com )

Econfirmpro was :

The first email comfirmation script for TGP auto submitters

Thank you for reading these useful facts.

http://tubecgi.com

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Blazed

Tubecgi is hardly a tube script, the demos are basically MGPS. The features of the script there is nothing social or community based about it, its aimed at little 1-2 minute promo clips which again is like an MGP.

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sortie

Thank you for providing the definition of what a "Legit Tube Script" is.


"Legit" refers to not stealing content or pretending not to steal it with the excuse that a user uploaded it.

A Legit tube script don't use illegal uploaded content and they post the proper banner for the sponsor and they use short clips that the sponsor has approved to used to promote the site. they don't have community areas to be flooded with spam and clog up the webmasters server so he can spend hours deleteing it from a network of sites.

See, legit tube site means : One that is actually trying to make money without being a theif.

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Blazed

If users upload content it is NOT illegal, so it is legit. But even forgetting content, the point of tubes are to be community based, tubecgi has some of the least features of any tube script ive seen.

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sortie

Well, I'm sorry that you don't understand the concept that youtube clones are not what this is.

Most webmasters can't afford the bandwidth to run a youporn.com.
This is the altenative.

Last time I surferd youporn they had turned off the comments etc... because of spam. So I can easily put that in the script so that everyone can turn it off later... but what would be the point?


As for you saying it's all mpgs: please click here

http://crazypussy.com/maintv.shtml?spermswap_4141

See, now that legit! Sponsor banner, you reseller code embeded in the flash video and leeched from sponsor with no bandwidth.

If you don't understand this then no problem, but stop comparing this to "tube sites" because this is a "legit tube site"; it's not the same.

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sortie

>>If users upload content it is NOT illegal, so it is legit.

Follow up to that: Uploading 10-20 minute clips from the protected members area of sponsors is not legit my friend. Combined with not having their banner in place is outright theft.

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sortie

This just in from Topbucks :


Dear Webmasters,
With tube sites being the wave of promoting adult sites, we would like explain what is
allowed/not allowed regarding promoting TopBucks sites on tube sites.

The following viral marketing sites are approved but limited to no more than 2 minute clips:
FILECABI.NET
FUCKINHORNY.COM
HARDSEXTUBE.COM
MEGAROTIC.COM
PORNOTUBE.COM
REDTUBE.COM
SNIZZSHARE.COM
TRAILERSBYNICHE.COM
VIDEOSLACKER.COM
XTUBE.COM
XXXFILMFINDER.COM
YOUPORN.COM
YOURPORNTUBE.COM

Torrent sites are banned from distributing more than 1 minute clips of content to promote
TopBucks sites.

The following viral marketing sites are banned from distributing TopBucks content:
BADONGO.COM
RAPIDSHARE.COM
SEEMYORGASM.COM
WANKTUBE.COM
XXXUPLOADS.COM

The purpose of short video clips is to lure the surfer into joining the site. Showing to much
content defeats this purpose. In addition, the video clips cannot be altered in any way. This
includes removing our PinkVisual and/or site name watermarks or adding any watermarks/site
domain names of your own.

These terms can be found on our terms page under section 2.7. Any webmaster that violates
these terms will have their account terminated and all funds will be forfeited.

If you have any questions regarding the above, please contact your TopBucks representative
or email [email protected]

Thank you for your understanding,
The TopBucks Staff



"Legit Tube" means following the rules of sponsor that owns the rights to the content.

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Blazed

You dont understand the law clearly, if a member of your tube uploads a 20min or even 1 hour clip ripped straight from a members area that does not mean the website itself or owner is breaking any law, so long as the owner complies with takedown requests from the content owners it is perfectly legit and legal.

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sortie

Ah HAAAAAA!!! Got you!

Remember when I said "legit" means not pretending you are not stealing content by blaming it on "a user upload".

"The user uploaded it" is a loophole.

Loopholes are not part of being legit.
Loopholes are for theives who want to avoid getting smacked.

That's why Tubecgi was the first "Legit Tube Script".

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candyflip

There's someone here who's offering customization of the TubeCGI script.

He does full design and has some nice templates.

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sortie

You can post his link. It's cool....I think.

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1off

This thread is hilarious. Keep up the great work Sortie. That last update that made the video pages SE friendly was awesome. ...

and yeah, hit me up for a custom quote on a turnkey site using Tubecgi!!! Surfers LOVE them.

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teg0

ok then, thanks for that

candyflip

I wish I did. I don't see it bookmarked.

Hoping maybe he'll pop in here or someone else will know it.

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sortie

Keep cranking out those templates!

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sortie

I just finished my nap. So, to continue....

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oil

just stumbled upon that thread, you might want to try TEVS, not sure if its already released yet, i got one copy running at Sex Videos and customization of it is so fucking easy

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tony286

when I think tube I think flash.

sortie

How much do you get paid to spam this rip-off of my script?

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pip

Yours might have been the first (which it really wasnt) but it sure is the crapiest (is that even a word?)

sortie

Does being so jealous make it hurt when you pee?


PS : fake ass nick.

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pip

Why would you assume its a fake nick? Your nick is newer than mine.

And what makes your script so great? From what I saw from TEVS and Other scripts they have more features and an overall better system.

Why are they a rip off script?

KrisKross

So wait... does your script have a filter preventing stolen content from being uploaded?

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farkedup

Dude this thread is HILARIOUS! alright maybe you were the first script to out of the box offer a ton of sponsored content... but YES I've used your script and seriously its not very good... I was checking out TEVS and honestly my jaw dropped on how WELL they did the sponsor feeds.

I've been building my tube script with primarily hosted content in mind BUT my last update 1.5 finally brought in drastically improved support for sponsored content but I haven't had time to assemble databases yet for sponsored content.

You must really be afraid of TEVS since you started this thread... hell I was shocked to see how well done it was... I didn't take it seriously until I actually SAW it... Oh well, just gives me some new feature ideas to work on for the next couple of weeks which is a good thing because I had started to run out of ideas ;)

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candyflip

Users aren't able to upload using either script as far as I'm aware.

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sortie

Dude, I'm just making the point that I've done this first and done another much used script first, and I made this point because I think it speaks for the trust webmasters have shown in my products. It's called marketing and is way more classy then paying posters to spam the board.

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Zorgman

Just for the record. I have NEVER paid anyone to post for me.

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sortie

Yes, it's called "I took the whole upload feature out feature".

My script is based on importing sponsor approved flash videos and then crawling hosted movie galleries to use as content.

All content is of the type sponsors like to use to promote their site.

Of course the script can be abused. There is an content loading feature that you can download any content and include it, but it's the webmaster that is abusing the script and not "user uploads" to hide behind.

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sortie

Does the surfer think that or just you?

You have the option of using only flash with this script.
The question is do you want to server the flash and burn your own bandwidth or keep your profit margin higher and leech.

The sponsors have set up the flash to be leeched, why go around that just to have a meaningless format that surfers don't car about.
Mpg and wmv files are much higher quality and convert better.

Just remember that the original tube format didn't make any money.
Why keep going there?

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tony286

great points Ive just seen them as flash but your right.

Zorgman

Sortie, I think thats a choice the webmaster needs to make. Some webmasters want to up load their own videos. I'v talked to a few webmasters/sponsors and they want to use videos that are not in use by anyone yet or they have made by themselves and its not for affiliates to use. Giving the webmaster to upload or hotlink is the only way to keep everyone happy.

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teksonline

I thought http://www.tubeland.com was the official?

p.s. I am a horrible spammer :P

KrisKross

The fact that the script can easily be used to host stolen content doesn't make it legit.

You're insinuating that every other tube script out there was built solely for illegitimate purposes. You're also insinuating that even if I use another tube script and host nothing but sponsor approved content, the script is still being using illegitimately. That's just absurd.

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seeric

let me clarify something since i said something in the other thread.

about products and competition.

since the dawn of time, when one person has a product that works and works well, they are copied, varied in structure to be different, and marketed to the SAME market. therein lies the angle to success. it doesn not matter who created what first(well, when you don't have a patent on the product in question anyhow). it matters do you have the delivery mechanism to get people to use your product over another. your delivery to your target audience is where you succeed or fail. many wonderful products have failed in the history of products because of terrible marketing, or no marketing tactics. the same is true for bad products. there are some very terrible products that wildly succeeded because they had a great marketing plan and a significan angle of approach on the market they were competing for. i would think that in the very short future, tubcgi,(which i also feel is a great piece of software, but havent used it), and TEVS will have a few more (2-4) competitors in your market. what will set you all apart and make you attractive to your suitors will obviously be features. now, what i would do in each of your situations is work very closely with the people that will use the product to build in the features that the initial supporters want, (considering they are intelligent ones), and then use those features that set you apart to target your more focused group of customers. there are severl tgp scripts. theres nothing anywhere to say that a few tube scripts can't get along anywhere.

so, with that said. find yourself an incredible marketing person, someone who is known and can get the word out there, cut them in on getting installs, and watch some money come in.

;)

good luck to ya both.


p.s. i referenced TEVS because i've seen it most, then saw your thread. yes i did see your running around first, but like i said in my post, unless you patent something right up front through that ridiculously long process, (sometimes you'll miss the products very reason for being created if the market moves faster than you can get the patent through), you will always breed competition with creating new markets. embrace it. compete with them, its healthy for the industry.

Zorgman

I agree with your A1R3K.

From what I have seen, there is 3-4 adult tube scripts now (including TEVS) and there is a alot of room for all of us to move in.

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sortie

No script can stop a webmaster from uploading a video to his site and linking it. That is absurd.

I explained what "legit tube" is already. It's a new concept and not really worth arguing about. Those who "get it" will use it and those who don't wont.
Those who think they will run a youtube clone with porn and don't have a few thousand a month to spend on bandwidth will just be idiots.

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KrisKross

I fully get your explanation. I just think that "legit" is the wrong term.

Any tube script that allows for uploads to be disabled can be used legitimately as you're describing.

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sortie

Maybe so, but the reason I coined the phrase was to stress the fact that I didn't want my script to be used on content stealing sites.
The buzz at the time was that tube sites steal content and I was about having tube sites and not stealing content.
The phrase also refers to having the correct banner for the sponsor above each video which was absolutely not being done on other sites.

When I first offered the script a number of posters said I was facilitating content theft. I responded that my script is for running "legit tube sites".
I showed them how it worked and they agreed that I was promoting a different concept.

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seeric

i think that "legit" is not the right word either, but its not my product. i don't see the term sticking to be honest. theres nothing legit about the software, what would make it legit is the actions of the user running the site. let me think on it, i'll give you a good word. free, no charge

seeric

also, the script isnt stealing content. paysite members do. owners of tube sites do. its the whole "guns don't kill people" thing. in the wrong hands any product can be used for things they weren't intended for. but i do see where you're going with your "legit" approach. icq me tomorrow if you want any advice on the marketing. anyone thats working against content being stolen is a friend of mine. you can use "legit" as an angle to move the software, maybe the wording just needs tweaking a little bit.

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design.guru.guy

Somebody needs to open an adult webmaster university or something what exactly is a tube script (obviously helps make your own tube site) but can somebody point me in the direction of figuring out how it works and what language is it written in so I can take a class on it next semester?

And this thread is funnay as hell!

sortie

Low post count = fake nick

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Zorgman

We all had low post counts at one stage. Get over yourself.

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sortie

Did you know that my sig has an image that when pulled to the board it executes a script(like my image morphing part of tubecgi) and it makes a log of the referring url (which is this post) and records the time.?

I can look at that and match up IP addresses with the post times and see who is switching nicks.

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farkedup

Tube script was coined referring to a youtube type clone which means having as many of the YOUTUBE features as possible... What is the centerpiece of YOUTUBE?

USERS UPLOADING VIDEO's!

If you don't have that feature don't call yourself a fucking TUBE script! Call yourself an MGP script. ANY of the scripts designed ONLY to push these short sponsor clips are MGP scripts. I'm not saying this isn't a market that needs to scripts but those are NOT the same as tube scripts.

As Zorgman said... Giving the users an option to upload content is a MUST HAVE! This of course is the centerpiece of having a tube script....

Yes I've been working on a more traditional tube script and have seen what you 2 have been doing with the sponsored content and am working on adding support for this kind of thing to MY SCRIPT! I don't have photo gallery support YET but just like any good script... You find a feature you believe your users will like so you PUT IT IN!

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