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anyone lived in a state where they passed a no smoking law
in all bars and restaurants..
what happened there? |
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uk.
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I live in Scotland, we've been smoke free in public places since March 2006 and its the best thing the Government ever did for us. I love being able to go to the pub to watch football matches and not come home stinking of other peoples bad habits! I don't even let people smoke in my house either, why should I have to put up with it? Its my house therefore my rules.
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Its been around for a while, you'll adapt. As a non-smoker, its great not having to breathe in second hand smoke.
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Yup, the UK. Bars, clubs and pubs became much more pleasant places to be. Everybody spends half their time freezing outside the place smoking now.
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California has had laws in that direction for years... to the point of annoyance sometimes.
Can't even smoke on the public beach anymore...
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Florida. Nothing really happened. People voted and the law was passed...
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whatever happened to america?
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they had dedicated smoking areas at my college campus. The hike pissed me off at first (the smoking sections were very far from .... everything), until I realized it was a great way to bum a smoke from a new person just about every day.
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I'm from Maryland and it takes affect soon.
Not excited. When i'm at the bar slamming beers, I love to sit there and smoke a cig.
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#13 |
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Ya know whats funny, When I used to work at a major ballpark, there was smoking, and even smoking in the stands at the time (since it was a park)
In 6 years I was there, I never heard or seen one person complain about the smoke, or the air or anything.. while walking about... But now In the last couple years the park has gone, total smoke free, cept for 2 smoking area's both outside the gates.. As a customer to watch the games, thats all that I heard walking from food/beer stands to seat in how bad the place stunk from the smoking areas. Its like Now, 80% of the people are complaining about the smoke, even the smokers because they can now smell it travel thru and it is so condensed by like 20 times, it smells like that smell you get cleaning beer bottles with butts out after a major party thruought the entire "pathway" of the park as the wind blows. Pretty Fucking nasty Makes that hot dog at the game oh so much more tasty.. NOT Anyhow, Illinois is now smoke free bars and restaruants as of the 1st of january.. I don't smoke anymore but i think its the stupidest thing ever... But it made me learn something... the city is way prepared for the loss... I never know of this law till a day ago... But it now explains. the 100% rise in business licenses , and liquor licenses costs.. and to make up for the lost money in taxes from cigs being sold in bars... they now tack on a 5% bottle water tax.. first in the country to do so... Fucking slick fuckers these polititians they are... Way ahead of the game |
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you sir, are behind the times. weed is medically legal in 13 states and growing. it is a slow process but we are progressively accepting it.
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yeah right and 80% of america has glaucoma... rock on!
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yep, nothing... smokers smoke outside, they have heaters there...
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California and even in chicago. People smoke outside or quit. Its the way it should be.
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I have insomnia and I'll be getting a card in March.
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No but smoking in public places is prohibited but no one follows the law anyway.
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Quebec
The Nightlife dropped a bit for the first 6 months then everything went back up as usual |
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been like that all year here
and have to say I like it before wasn't noticable cause everywhere ya went people smoked now.. moment someone does and leave whereever the person was, you notice it on your clothes right away as an ex-smoker, I enjoy it now. No smoke anywhere. and if they wanna go freeze their butts (no pun intended) for a smoke.. by all means. It's their lives |
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#24 |
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Canada. The bars and restaurants bitched. The dumpy ones, who's customer base were smokers, closed, but the rest stayed open.
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Oh yeah! The bingo halls closed too
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#27 |
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I wish they would do it around here.
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An acquaintance had to close his cigar-bar when a no-smoking ordnance passed. Hate to have anyone get second hand smoke after entering a cigar-bar.
In America a man was basically told to close his business, lose his investment and time, lay off his employees because someone might be offended by legal activities taking place in that business. This in a state where tobacco is the largest crop. |
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Been several years here in NY too. It's nice not to have to come home from the bar and automatically take a shower and wash your clothes because you are saturated in cigarette smoke.
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NY and NJ. Its weird because now its almost like you could never smoke in bars. When I go to Philly its really strange to see people smoking indoors. We have a bar in Red Bank NJ, where smoking is still allowed indoors though because it is a "cigar" bar. Its packed and it seems like people go there just to smoke as much as they can indoors. Hot girls there though. Ok, Im done.
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so far it has been bad for cincinnati. you can smoke anyplace right across the river.. lots of clubs etc have shut down over lack of business, but it has been GREAT for the KY side
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The law itself is just wrong and it should of been left up to consumer demand. If enough customers wanted a smoke free establishment market demand would of created them. Now one does not have a personal business choice.
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thats been a law here for a while, cant smoke at beaches bars clubs what have you, back in feb or so Calabasas doesnt allow smokers to gathered near entrances to businesses also that city has been trying to ban smoking in apartment buildings.
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Nothing really happened, people just stopped smoking inside..
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Ya, Arizona did it this last year. I hate it. I can see from the non smokers side how it's much better, but why should the government decide for everyone? Why can't it just be left up to the establishment as to whether smoking is allowed or not?
I would think that a bar that advertises itself as a non smoking bar in an area where the other bars smoke could stand to make some good business. This law really pissed me off when the bar I used to go to all the time was empty inside because everyone in the bar was out on the patio smoking.
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The law has been in place here for a few years. It absolutely destroyed bar business when it first came out but the bars that lasted through it are pretty much back to normal now.
I'm a smoker and I would go outside to smoke before the law was enacted, if it wasn't 40 below or raining that is. It's actually much more pleasant in bars now that there isn't a constant heavy cloud of smoke. The real benefit was to the local casinos. They allow smoking. Needless to say the casino bars are always jammed. Go figure. |
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here is a great idea, how abou those that bitch about us smokers STOP FUCKING SMOKING WEED AROUND US NON-WEED SMOKERS!
i fucking hate that shit, someone bitches about my cigarette smoking then pulls out a pipe and blows all their weed smoke in my face fucking hippies need to die
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But its usually the walking out that sucks, as the smokers stand right outside the door, and you have to go though a cloud to get out.
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yeah no smoking in city limits here
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Well most laws do say 50 feet from door ways etc but alas what is a bar to do, and guess where they put the damn ash trays.
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i live in cali and it sux cant smoke anywhere.. Beverly hills has outlaw'd smoking in some outside areas as well..
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In a few more days no smoking in cars either if you have kids.
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We have that law in Washington state and honestly, I don't mind it at all IF I don't have to walk halfway to Oz to find a place to smoke - or stand out in the rain - and it rains a ton here.
What I can't stand is stupidity attached to the law. I was in a underground parking structure and the attendant told me I had to toss out my smoke (that I was politely finishing standing by my car prior to entering the building). Nevermind that it was an underground parking structure with at least 500 cars - each of which pumped out 100 times what my little cigarette does - and he's concerned about second hand smoke... I told him he should stop thinking as he wasn't very good at it and finished my smoke anyways. Remember folks - second hand smoke can kill you in 20 years but talking on a cell phone while driving can get you killed tomorrow ![]() |
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It's outlawed in bars/clubs here .. I think it's great, even as a heavy smoker.
There's way too many smokers out there, and it's actually enjoyable to go to a club or restaurant and not be smoked out by everyone. Not that hard to go outside for a smoke, That said.. I don't hit the clubs much in the winter hehe |
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They are however trying to make it illegal to smoke in YOUR OWN car here, and when that happens, they can lick my sweaty nuts.
My car = My Rules. |
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Bar owners here were slammed by the 'protect the children" and "we want to eat smoke free" lobby. Not bar patrons. It was a broad no smoking campaign that left common sense and "rights" at the curb.
I do not smoke. If I want to own a bar that allows smoking nobody should have the right to tell me no. Demand should find it's own market ... where were the smoke free resturants and bars? Obviously there was no real demand or there would have been businessmen filling that need. |
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For an industry that pisses and moans at porn laws more attention should have gone to freedom of choice rights lost.
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Florida. You can still smoke in bars that do not serve food. The restaurants thought the law would kill them and they fought it hard and lost. Funny thing, business actually picked up. The real winners were the sports bar restaurants that opened outside patio bars for the smokers. All in all, it was a winning deal for everyone.
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