One of our owners doesn't like Ron Paul

[FredIsMe]

Watch David Rockefeller's reaction when Ron Paul is brought up:

https://youtube.com/v/ruSqkSAdWUw&rel=1

[Kimo]

does that suprise you?

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by Kimo

does that suprise you?

It doesn't surprise me that an owner of the Federal Reserve would hate someone trying to shut it down.

[L-Pink]

owners ... ?

[Malicious Biz]

It was a very normal "Who the fuck is Ron Paul?" reaction. Then responded like any normal, sane person would've.

It doesn't surprise me that an owner of the Federal Reserve would hate someone trying to shut it down.

LOL. The 9-11 truthers meeting is around the corner>>>>>>>>>>>

[FredIsMe]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve

The Federal Reserve is a private company. John D. Rockefeller was one of the men who established the Fed in 1913.

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

It was a very normal "Who the fuck is Ron Paul?" reaction. Then responded like any normal, sane person would've.


LOL. The 9-11 truthers meeting is around the corner>>>>>>>>>>>

If you want to be ignorant then go for it.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by FredIsMe

If you want to be ignorant then go for it.

Ignorant about what?

Call me kooky.. but I'd say the federal reserve system has served this country quite well since 1913.

Now all of a sudden I'm supposed to slap on a tinfoil hat and call for it's destruction?

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Ignorant about what?

Call me kooky.. but I'd say the federal reserve system has served this country quite well since 1913.

Now all of a sudden I'm supposed to slap on a tinfoil hat and call for it's destruction?

How has it served the USA well?

Do you love the fact that the income tax goes directly to pay the debt caused by the Federal Reserve?

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by FredIsMe

How has it served the USA well?

Do you love the fact that the income tax goes directly to pay the debt caused by the Federal Reserve?

the federal reserve does not cause debts or deficits dumbass



A government that spends more than it collects in taxes causes that.

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Ignorant about what?

Call me kooky.. but I'd say the federal reserve system has served this country quite well since 1913.

Now all of a sudden I'm supposed to slap on a tinfoil hat and call for it's destruction?

For someone who doesnt have a chance, you are campaigning against him pretty hard. You just prove him right every time you post your insane bullshit. If your so for whats going on you need to prove it in a real way..

head straight the your nearest recruiter and sign on the dotted line and start
donating all your yearly earnings to help fight your war.

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

the federal reserve does not cause debts or deficits dumbass



A government that spends more than it collects in taxes causes that.

Where does the government get the money from? The Fed!

There is INTEREST charged to the government on EVERY DOLLAR the Fed gives out.

Here's a phone converstion with Mr. Ron Supinski of the Public Information Department of the San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank. -> http://www.wikiprotest.com/index.php...eral_Rese rve

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

For someone who doesnt have a chance, you are campaigning against him pretty hard. You just prove him right every time you post your insane bullshit. If your so for whats going on you need to prove it in a real way..

head straight the your nearest recruiter and sign on the dotted line and start
donating all your yearly earnings to help fight your war.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by FredIsMe

How has it served the USA well?

Do you love the fact that the income tax goes directly to pay the debt caused by the Federal Reserve?

income taxes have nothing to do with the national debt.

Ron Paul's biggest enemies are his moronic supporters.

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

let me guess.

Never served?
Some sort of financial support from the goverment?
No more than high school education?
No family members currently serving their country.


come on, one or all?

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

"Americans" like Malicious Biz are the ones who will make the Great Depression look like a walk in the park.

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

income taxes have nothing to do with the national debt.

Ron Paul's biggest enemies are his moronic supporters.

From the conversation at http://www.wikiprotest.com/index.php...eral_Rese rve

CALLER - Am I mistaking that when the Federal Reserve Act was passed (on Christmas Eve) in 1913, it transferred the power to coin and issue our nation's money and to regulate the value thereof from Congress to a Private corporation. And my country now borrows what should be our own money from the Federal Reserve (a private corporation) plus interest. Is that correct and the debt can never be paid off under the current money system of country?

MR. SUPINSKI - Basically, yes.

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CALLER - I smell a GIANT RAT that has overthrown my constitution. Aren't we paying tribute in the form of income taxes to a consortium of private bankers?

MR. SUPINSKI - I can't call it tribute, it is interest.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by FredIsMe

Where does the government get the money from? The Fed!

There is INTEREST charged to the government on EVERY DOLLAR the Fed gives out.

Here's a phone converstion with Mr. Ron Supinski of the Public Information Department of the San Francisco Federal Reserve Bank. -> http://www.wikiprotest.com/index.php...eral_Rese rve

Yet another evil Illuminati conspiracy foiled!

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays

income taxes have nothing to do with the national debt.

Ron Paul's biggest enemies are his moronic supporters.

So supporting the war that we were lied to about from our own goverment, collapes of financial stability, destruction of the constitution, even less cival liberties, horrific to no health care for our citizens, housing market collapse, paying for social securty that we will never enjoy the benefits of, major transfer of wealth from the middle class to the allready insanly rich, a congress that doesnt work, a war on everything under the sun (drugs, terror, iraq....) makes you NOT Moronic?

So voting for the likes of gulianni, romney, or huckafuck makes you NOt a moron?

let me help you out.... u r a moron.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

let me guess.

Never served?
Some sort of financial support from the goverment?
No more than high school education?
No family members currently serving their country.


come on, one or all?

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Im sure your really laughing, but that feeling deep down inside that tells you atleast one of those statements, if not all, hit pretty close to home. Seek therapy, Im sure the goverment will pay for it for you.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

So voting for the likes of gulianni, romney, or huckafuck makes you NOt a moron?

Which one of the three real candidates pisses you off the most? I haven't decided who I might vote for yet.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

Im sure your really laughing, but that feeling deep down inside that tells you atleast one of those statements, if not all, hit pretty close to home.

You couldn't have been more wrong actually.

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Which one of the three real candidates pisses you off the most? I haven't decided who I might vote for yet.

dont worry, Im sure most of the real conservative repubs will be helping the dems if any of the three win the nomination. Get ready for Hillary.

[notoldschool]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

You couldn't have been more wrong actually.

Yeah, well I worked as NCOIC of a division headquarters and I saw plenty of fools with bars who thought they would get pay raises and better benefits when Bush rolled around too.

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

Yet another evil Illuminati conspiracy foiled!

What does the Illuminati have to do with the banks?

You think Andrew Jackson (former American president was a nut)?

I have always been afraid of banks.
-Andrew Jackson

"You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning." --Andrew Jackson, 1828 (to a group of investment bankers trying to persuade him to renew their central bank charter)

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by FredIsMe

What does the Illuminati have to do with the banks?

You think Andrew Jackson (former American president was a nut)?

I have always been afraid of banks.
-Andrew Jackson

"You are a den of vipers. I intend to rout you out and by the Eternal God I will rout you out. If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking system, there would be a revolution before morning." --Andrew Jackson, 1828 (to a group of investment bankers trying to persuade him to renew their central bank charter)

"Thy be ist annoying far more than thou average man!" -- Some dead motherfucker from 300 years ago.

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by Malicious Biz

"Thy be ist annoying far more than thou average man!" -- Some dead motherfucker from 300 years ago.

To see your reaction when the house of cards comes falling down would be a treat.

[Malicious Biz]

Originally Posted by FredIsMe

To see your reaction when the house of cards comes falling down would be a treat.

When the sky falls.. it'll probably look something like this:

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by notoldschool

So supporting the war that we were lied to about from our own goverment, collapes of financial stability, destruction of the constitution, even less cival liberties, horrific to no health care for our citizens, housing market collapse, paying for social securty that we will never enjoy the benefits of, major transfer of wealth from the middle class to the allready insanly rich, a congress that doesnt work, a war on everything under the sun (drugs, terror, iraq....) makes you NOT Moronic?

So voting for the likes of gulianni, romney, or huckafuck makes you NOt a moron?

let me help you out.... u r a moron.

typical Paultard.

i wasn't talking about any of those things.

just cut to the end and call everyone "brainwashed by the media" since thats where all your discussions are ultimately going anyway.

[Malicious Biz]

(Cont. From My Last Post)
Then you'll be all "I told ya so!" and triumphant


And then I'll be all ""

because I'll be dead cuz I was crushed by the sky

And Ron Paul will be all
""

And jerking off and stuff cuz he was so right...

And then.. Just as he's about to bust a nut all over george bushes face...


You'll wake up in your bed in a puddle of your own urine like every night and say to yourself... "Man, what a great dream!"

[Socks]

pleasure, you really do think everything is going A okay don't you?

You seriously trust all these politicians are doing the right thing, all the time?

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by FredIsMe

Do you love the fact that the income tax goes directly to pay the debt caused by the Federal Reserve?

Anyone can own US debt. You can buy US treasury bonds through any broker.

The fed system of banks hold about 7.5% of the treasury bonds. Quite obvious with even a little thought.

The Fed rebates about 92.5% of the interest they collect on the bonds back to the treasury. So less than 1% of the interest owed on the national debt has anything to do with the federal reserve banks.

[Pleasurepays]

Originally Posted by Socks

pleasure, you really do think everything is going A okay don't you?

You seriously trust all these politicians are doing the right thing, all the time?

NEVER have i said anything like that. you only say something like that because you know that all your arguments are weak and easily challenged.

there are no perfect candidates and there are no perfect answers... no matter how much many here seem to want to believe there is.

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Anyone can own US debt. You can buy US treasury bonds through any broker.

The fed system of banks hold about 7.5% of the treasury bonds. Quite obvious with even a little thought.

The Fed rebates about 92.5% of the interest they collect on the bonds back to the treasury. So less than 1% of the interest owed on the national debt has anything to do with the federal reserve banks.

Flaherty: Nearly all the interest the Federal Reserve collects on government bonds is rebated to the Treasury each year, so the government does not pay any net interest to the Fed.

My reply: Here is another half-truth that is a whopper deception. It is true that most of the money paid by the government for interest on the national debt is returned to the government. That is because the Fed’s charter requires any interest payments in excess of the Fed’s actual operating expenses to be refunded. However, before we jump to the conclusion that this is a wonderful benefit, we must remember that the banking cartel is able to use tax dollars to pay 100% of its operating expenses with few questions asked about the nature of those expenses. After all of those expenses are paid, what is left over is rebated to the Treasury, as Flaherty says. There is no secret about this, and you will find an explanation of it in my book. Technically, there is no “profit” on this money. However, remember that creating money for the government is only one of the functions of the Fed. The real bonanza comes, not from money created out of nothing for the government, but from money created out of nothing by the commercial banks for loans to the private sector. That’s where the real action is. This is the famous slight-of-hand trick. Distract attention with one hand while the coin is retrieved by the other. By focusing on the supposed generosity of the Fed by returning unused interest to the Treasury, we are supposed to overlook the much larger river of gold flowing into the member banks in the form of interest on nothing as a result of consumer and commercial loans.

[ADL Colin]

...................... nm

[xmas13]

Ron Paul is a clown.



The Federal Reserve is indeed what is claimed in this thread, but Ron Paul is certainly not a solution.

There is nothing we can do about it, bankers and international companies put up their men so we don't have any alternative.

European commercial banks are behind the Federal Reserve (it's not a secret in the banking industry, only for the average Joe), which is why their economy surpassed the US for the first time since pre-WW2, and will keep improving, while Americans are working harder than ever to pay off their debt.

I repeat, there is nothing we can do about it, no need to throw insults.

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by FredIsMe

Well said ADL Colin. Do rebates even matter considering that the money is backed only by debt and not something tangible like gold?

Tangible? It's just a somewhat shiny, somewhat pretty metal which is a fair conductor that doesn't rust. Why should the amount of money in circulation be related at all to the amount of a shiny gold metal that we manage to dig out of the earth? Why not back our currency by the number of conch shells?

[FredIsMe]

Originally Posted by ADL Colin

Tangible? It's just a somewhat shiny, somewhat pretty metal which is a fair conductor that doesn't rust. Why should the amount of money in circulation be related at all to the amount of a shiny gold metal that we manage to dig out of the earth? Why not back our currency by the number of conch shells?

I would take conch shells over something that is man made.

[ADL Colin]

Originally Posted by FredIsMe

I would take conch shells over something that is man made.

For what reason? If you want to limit the amount of money in circulation you could limit it by some maximum annual increase. I am pretty sure that Milton Friedman advanced that idea at one point. But that idea has a problem too and that is because the velocity of money is not constant in time.