OK so...
50 unsatisfactory movies...

To the contrary, despite the questions in basic plot logic I had, I actually enjoyed the (majority) of the movie, as did my daughter.

After seeing the movie, I read quite a few of the discussion forums on IMDB about it - and the majority of people who'd also seen it were asking the same questions about the plot and pointing out the rather obvious flaws.

Agreed, it was better than the standard multiplex crap floating around out there, but at the same time it could have been much better if a little more attention to detail had been made during production. I can suspend disbelief in logic gaps at the best of times, but not when it leaves a glaring, "WTF?" in my mind.

yeah, I see what you're saying. The holes are there, but not enough to detract from my enjoyment as long as I'm into the story and filmmaking. I can also appreciate when a movie doesn't spoon feed you answers and let's you think at least a little.

If you inject the cure into an infected host they will produce antibodies tehrefor an infected host will bcome almost like a factory for antibodies (the cure). Then they can use the cured persons blood and cure someone else. then you have two cured people, then inject their blood into two others....

I have Honours in Immunology and Microbiology.

I bet the ones who disliked i am legend LOVED little miss fuckshine. Now THAT's an overhyped movie.

Yes the dumbass didn't need to die. He could have jumped in the store cupboard and thrown the grenade into the contained area before locking the door. I saw it yesterday and thought the same thing. He didn't need to die!

I agree. I don't understand how anyone could have not liked the movie. It was a great story line, well made, incredible effects, suspenseful, unpredictable and Will Smith was so good it was almost like it wasn't a typical will smith movie (and this coming from a guy who always saw him as the annoying fresh prince of bel air). And the dog was awesome.

And what were the 'holes'? His objective was to find the cure which he did. He passed it on to the survivors to mass produce.

No, he didn't need to die, true.

From a storytelling perspective, yes. It was more satisfying for his character to die, as a form of retribution for his failure to stop the spread of the virus. The happy ending goes down easier knowing that he died to protect the cure.

Ever watch a movie and you just know a character has to die? This was like that for me, and it was cemented as soon as I saw the introduction of the new characters near the end.

I have not seen character development for animal like that since Bambi. Sam was really the only character in the movie I cared about.

Yes, I was expecting him to die I just didn't want him to! I wanted him to get to live and make it to meet all of the other survivors too. I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy the movie. I did. But as for the retribution, he didn't come up with the virus did he, that was Emma Thompson's character via her cancer cure? I'd just have been happier if he'd have protected the cure and survived too!. :1orglaugh

he had to die to become a martyr... religious spin.

solid proof youre a woman

This man speaks truth. Listen to him.

This one doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about. Beat him with bags full of rolls of quarters until he sees the errors of his ways.

:1orglaugh Yeah.

when the dog died... that was the saddest shit I've seen in a movie in a VERY lone time :(

Fair enough, but that means when/if someone steals from you then you have reason to complain.

Just saw that movie a few nights ago, it was fucking awesome.

Thats what I want to know too. Didnt make any sense to me.

The dummy in the trap was the dummy at the movie store. I think they used the bright yellow jump suit on him (compaired with normal clothes on the rest) so that people would remember that Will had just talked to it the night before.
Thats why Will was says "If your really alive you better tell me" or whatever and then started shooting the dummy.

I didnt really have a problem with that part, but the Lady getting her SUV onto and off the island does bother me.

The only way into manhattan I can think of that isn't a major bridge are the Holland and Lincoln tunnels and the small ramp at the West side highway ramp from the 95(near the GWB). Still, all of the entrances were supposed to have been destroyed.

the producers needs to stop robbing ticket holders when they get paid millions of dollars just to put their names on films. thus making the cost of the movie go up

and also the actors who get paid way to much

the cost of going to the theater now is out of control. the real crooks are the ones who run the theaters and charge way too much for popcorn and some soda.

nothing makes me happier than watching a bootleg hollywood movie. i have one site i hit that i love. watched walk hard in bed yesterday.

and its not the same as stealing members areas. you don't need to pay for porn if you know where to look thanks to all the tube sites.

if a movie is that good, like pan's labyrinth or beowulf, yeah, i'll hit a theater. but just to see some crap that hollywood pumps out for the holiday season, not thanks. plus i hate having to deal with assholes who talk and answer their phones during the movies or think taking an 8 year old to an r rated movie at 9pm is a good idea.

if anyone is being ripped off its the consumer.

Enemy At the Gates was good... so was Saving Private Ryan.. and Band of Brothers

Here is the thing though. You aren't be forced to go to the movies. It is not like you can't live without movies. Movies are a luxury item. If you want to watch a movie you can choose to pay $10 for a ticket and go see it in the theater with a bunch of other people who sound like a heard of cattle munching on food or you can choose to wait until it comes out on DVD and pay $3-$4 to rent it and watch it at home.

If people are willing to pay $10 for a movie, shouldn't they be able to charge it? If I run a pay site and people are willing to pay $40 a month to be a member should I lower my price to $20 just because it is a nice thing to do?

And stealing it is the same thing as stealing a member's area. There are plenty of movies you can watch for free on TV (they have commercials though). TV is like the porn industries TGP. You get it free, with some restrictions.

Actors make what they make because people are willing to pay to see them. If you have an actor who makes 15 million a movie it is because the movies they are in make a lot of money. Sure many of them are crap and sure these people could survive nicely on half the salary they make, but why should they. In the end the actor is worth that price to the studio. It is no different than a big TGP selling its top spots. Those spots are worth that price to whomever pays it.

In the end I just say the same as always, if you want to download stuff, fine, but that means if someone steals something from you, you don't get to complain about it.

so what about ppl who read books and magazines at book stores and don't but them? are they stealing?

how about ppl who read the newspaper that someone else leaves on the train?


actors and producers are way over paid, maybe if they didn;t command such large salaries i wouldn't mind. but im not going to fork over any money for some piece of shit film. and if it is that good, maybe I'll get the dvd.

the dummy was dressed the same as at the video store which was wearing an orange sweatshirt. it took me a while to even realize that it was from the video store as i was watching the movie.


so.... there you have him... the "creatures" are clever enough to set him up and ambush him in a fairly sophisticated, military-like way but were too stupid to figure out that he lives right down the street. they possessed the intelligence to understand the significance of the maniquins to him, how to use them as bait, knew where he would be, when etc but otherwise, couldn't find him even though they were aware of him, his habits, where he went etc.

then in the end... hundreds of them overrun his house because "they found him"

it all made very little sense.

Well, you don't really pay attention, do you?

First of all, grand central station is not exactly "down the street" from Washington Square Park. It's a fucking hike.

Second, it was obvious that he always got home before dark, so he couldn't be followed. The reason they found his house is because Ana was followed as she drove him home....in the dark. Good detective work, right? If you're going to argue a point, at least be aware that you didn't pay attention to the movie or can't infer things that are actually made just clear enough for the average monkey to understand.

Maybe you don't know about New York neighborhood proximities, I'll give you that one.

oooooh... i see. i was't aware that the producers intended everyone to study up on New York before watching the movie.

that makes sense now.

you dumb fucking retard.



and yeah... he got home before dark moron. since your too fucking stupid to figure shit out...

let me help you.

they set him up and ambushed him. according to your logic, that shouldn't have happened because they should know anything about him because he gets home before dark and therefore shoujld be oblivious to his existence.

as the movie plainly showed in the ambush scene, they watched him from inside buildings and as the ambush shows, they were aware of him, his habits (visting the video store, the significance of the manequins to him, where he travels) etc.

do you need anymore help having shit spelled out to you, you pathetic jackass??

Well, first off in all of my life I have only known one person who could stand in a book store and read a whole book while standing there. Most people read a few pages to check it out and see if they want to buy it. Magazines can be different because you can read a whole magazine there in the store. I guess, in a way, it is stealing because you are getting the content for free.

With the newspaper left on a train or even in a waiting room or whatever, well, someone has already bought it and left it so it's not stealing.

Actors and producers may be overpaid, but they are because they can be. If you could command $15 million a year for whatever your job was would you just choose to take $2 million just to be nice? As I said, nobody is forcing you to pay the price of a movie ticket. You guy rent a movie or buy a movie on pay per view for a few bucks or you can wait until it is on TV and watch it for free.

well, if someone buys a paper and leaves it for me, its ok then if i watch a video cam bootleg from someone who buys a tickets at the theater.

i mean, he did pay for his admission, he's just taking it with him, like if 1 person buys a paper and shares it with his office by leaving it in the lunch room.

and as far at the book store is concerned, you can go back everyday for an hour and read a book or 2 a week no prob.

given what was people have said about the

1. plot holes
2. what the original story was about
3. the delays to get this film to market

i suspect that we will find out that the movie originally followed the plot of the book
but it did not test well with test screening
so they re cut it together re edited to it current form
the plot holes are a result of trying to salvage as much of the original fotage as possible.

It the "total recall" thing all over again

Usually the Colossus at 400/7.. I live in Etobicoke

The most mad I've been was in Mexico City with my wife, some kids brought in a BIG BAG OF CHIPS and were going out of their way to crinkle the bag.. I started yelling at them, they didn't do much.. But my wife wouldn't let me go beat their ass.. I swear next time someone acts a fool I'm a dump a drink down their shirt.. Fuckin retards. I wasn't a good kid, but I still respected strangers

its amazing how the human mind can make such a case for stealing to make it right in their minds. They are fucked up so its alright if I steal from them but I still have my ethics. Makes me want to throw up.
Just say the truth Im cheap and if I can get something for nothing I will. I would respect that more then the Im taking a stand or the I wouldnt go to the movies anyway bullshit.

im not cheap, i'm more than willing to spend $$$ on a good meal and have done so many times.

and how many ppl here who think this is stealong has some software they didn't buy or mp3 they got online....

i mean besides you, b/c you are honest.

Ultimately this argument will go nowhere. You have decided that downloading a bootlegged movie is okay. If that is how you feel there is nothing I can say or do to convince you otherwise.

I'll ask you this one last question though and put it in the context of our industry. Say, for arguments sake, you were a site designer. You made some kick ass tours and gallery templates. You are in demand and people pay you top dollar for your work because it converts for them. One day I get my hands on one of your tours and I start using it. When asked I say, "Well, I would have never paid for the tour, so it's not like he is losing money and he is overpaid anyway and charges way too much for his tours."

Is that not stealing? You made something, I am now using it without having paid for it. It is a little different because you are not profiting from downloading a movie whereas I may profit from using your tour, but that doesn't change the simple fact that I am using your tour without paying you for it just like you are watching that movie without paying for it.

there is a difference between stealing and rationalizing stealing. i have mp3's etc... but i don't defend downloading them or try to rationalize it as being justified. i'm wrong... i know i'm wrong, i will never try to defend it as being "ok because..."

Even if they all did then its ok? I hope you were raised better than that. Its not being honest its knowing what it feels like when your sweat and blood is taken and shared by someone who has no rights to it.

Yeah, and just because they could watch him from the windows in his routine, doesn't mean they could find out where he lived exactly.

Relax. You look like a bigger jackass than I do for sure. Something told me you would answer back with an indignant, maniacal rant.

Movie really sucked! But they made a Gazillion dollars already so they dont care..:mad:

well... lets see... he was sleeping in his bathtub with his dog and loaded assualt rifle because as soon as the sun went down, they were outside his apartment howling and freaking out every night.

they were smart enough to set up a sophisticated ambush... even using dogs to hunt... but not smart enough to recognize his big SUV outside his apartment everyday.

of course it made perfect sense that all he had to do was splash a little vinegar on the steps to his apartment to throw them off his track. that certainly doesn't set off any alarms for a sensitive nose.... and of course, we have to assume they couldn't smell the truck, his scent on the truck or the fucking dog.

you are confusing "suspension of disbelief" with "must become temporarily retarded"

but in your case, its understandable.

First half was one of my favorite movies ever. Second half ruined it all. :mad:
Don't re-write a great ending just because midwest mall moms can't appreciate it.

*SPOILER?*

The story was supposed to have continued the theme showing how Will Smith's character had actually become the monster, from this new societies perspective, sneaking in while they slept and kidnapping/killing them.

The book was better and a completely different story.

thats usually true though.. the movies are never as good as the book. books cause us to create imagery and characters as WE see them and movies always show something different than how we imagined things.

i think that movie was "ok" it was just a movie. it was worth watching. it seems to me that we are seeing more and more in the last decade or so, movies that are so over-hyped before they are released, that they are almost always a dissapointment... because we can't just sit down and watch it and appreciate it for what it is... we usually already have expectations that can't be met.

I liked the movie, I think Will Smith did a great job. Considering 60 percent of it is just will,the dog and it doesnt get boring.The story did have tons of holes.

And I'd still like to know how the gasoline for the vehicles kept their octane for 3 years.

And did the chick find a functioning carwash after she magically escaped Manhatten in her SUV - it looked damn clean when she pulled up to the 'safe' community.

And in a world supposedly filled with millions of these (superhuman) mutants that could scale buildings and whatnot - how did that wall protect all the humans in the end?

Must've been made of Teflon. Yeah, that's it...

that was one of the things that blew it for me. at first, you see him covering his tracks etc as if they are just dumb zombies. as the movie progresses you see they are not only intelligent but have super powers and are in huge numbers making it seem pretty obvious that you couldn't just evade them.

and yeah :)

she got to the "town" and the doors opened and i was thinking "haha... those walls will just make them easier to kill once they jump over them"

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How did the woman drive to vermon in her suv? where did she sleep? cant sleep in buildings cause zombies are there! plus the bridges were blown up.

HOW DID SHE GET TO VERMONT??????!!!

I really enjoyed it! :thumbsup

how about... a city full of 10,000,000 plus people who died has no bodies / skeletons lying around.

They all turned to zombies!! That's what happened to the dead people!

Will Smith acted amazingly well in this.