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  • PornMogul
    Confirmed User
    • May 2007
    • 1495

    #1

    Trademarked Domains and what to do if you have one

    Ok, I have some very nice domains but the only problem is some trademark issues. Just as an example, I have better ones but one I dont care about would be fuckpepsi.com. What would be the best way to sell a trademarked domain. If I go straight to the company. Can they sue me? Would I be better off auctioning off the domain. I saw americanxpress.com go for over 30k. So? Whats the best way to get rid of a trademarked domain?
  • Boobs
    Confirmed User
    • Aug 2006
    • 7875

    #2
    let it drop.

    Join the fucking best in big tit sponsors!!!

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    • DaddyHalbucks
      A freakin' legend!
      • Feb 2004
      • 18975

      #3
      Originally posted by PornMogul
      Ok, I have some very nice domains but the only problem is some trademark issues. Just as an example, I have better ones but one I dont care about would be fuckpepsi.com. What would be the best way to sell a trademarked domain. If I go straight to the company. Can they sue me? Would I be better off auctioning off the domain. I saw americanxpress.com go for over 30k. So? Whats the best way to get rid of a trademarked domain?
      There is no good way to sell a trademarked domain. You will get sued in federal court and lose everything.
      Boner Money

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      • WarChild
        Let slip the dogs of war.
        • Jan 2003
        • 17263

        #4
        Hire minusonebit, he's an absolute expert!
        .

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        • L-Pink
          working on my tan
          • Mar 2005
          • 39151

          #5
          And what does fuckpepsi have to do with anything except "fuck" a well known brand? Let it go, let it go now.

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          • PornMogul
            Confirmed User
            • May 2007
            • 1495

            #6
            its NOT fuck pepsi. Its a VERY VERY good name that could be considered a trademark. If everyone else can sell a tm name for 50k+ why cant I? Where do I sell a name like this?

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            • pornlaw
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2007
              • 1902

              #7
              If its a trademarked then its not something you can legally own someone else already does. It might be considered cyber-squatting as well.

              Without knowing more facts there's no real way to answer this question legally.
              Michael

              www.AdultBizLaw.com

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              • datatank
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2004
                • 5471

                #8
                Sounds like its worthless but I have a friend who might be able to help you ;)

                Do you have an email he can contact you at?

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                • pornask
                  So Fucking Banned
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 6518

                  #9
                  Speaking of fuckpepsi.com it reminded me of trademark vs freedom of speech case where freedom of speech won - paypalsucks.com

                  In this case there is a clear trademark violation, but they have won against humongous monster company with unlimited resources because of first amendment.

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                  • WarChild
                    Let slip the dogs of war.
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 17263

                    #10
                    Originally posted by pornask
                    Speaking of fuckpepsi.com it reminded me of trademark vs freedom of speech case where freedom of speech won - paypalsucks.com

                    In this case there is a clear trademark violation, but they have won against humongous monster company with unlimited resources because of first amendment.
                    Just fucking wow. You're not kidding, you actually think this way, don't you?
                    .

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                    • Mike Semen
                      Confirmed User
                      • Dec 2001
                      • 2924

                      #11
                      there are a few domain boards around where you could offer it, but you better have some traffic, rev or something to justify a purchase otherwise forget it.
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                      • V_RocKs
                        Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                        • Nov 2003
                        • 32448

                        #12
                        I own a trademarked past employer sucks domain. They tried to sue me for it and I sent a motion to dismiss sighting past cases where it was upheld that others could use theirs. Really pissed that company off.

                        So then I went through the trouble of setting up an account where employees could donate money to a fund. The fund payed for Google Adwords advertising for both their industry and their name. The forum grew like a mutherfucker with people posting things like, "Wow, thanks for letting me know this company is retarded. I will move on to their competitors."

                        I love that kind of shit.

                        Ohh the forum also was awesome for things like getting heads together for class action lawsuits and for customers to do the same.

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                        • PornMogul
                          Confirmed User
                          • May 2007
                          • 1495

                          #13
                          Contact info is now in sig. I have some ridiculous tm names. Yes it has traffic. Fuckpepsi.com is just an example of one of the ones I have that I am willing to post on gfy which should show you how much I care about it. Email me if you are interested.

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                          • pornlaw
                            Confirmed User
                            • Feb 2007
                            • 1902

                            #14
                            First Amendment issues can trump trademark law, but it is a fine line that has been drawn.

                            If the domain is something like fuckpepsi.com or pepsisucks.com and the site is actually used for consumers/employees/disgruntled customers to post complaints, as VRocks notes there is case law support to it.

                            But you might go through the hassle of litigation anyway.
                            Michael

                            www.AdultBizLaw.com

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                            • CurrentlySober
                              Too lazy to wipe my ass
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 38945

                              #15
                              Believe it or not, I had a similar thing happen to me, back in early 2004 with a trademarked name... I ended up getting an offer from 'Frito Lay / Pepsi Cola of America' where they paid me for the domain name, which technically included their product name, yet I also had a legitimate pornographic use for...

                              I really cant be anymore specific regarding what happened to me, but I will say that I was MORE THAN HAPPY to accept the GENEROUS offer they made me, for the domain name... Now, I have said more than I should already... So enough about me.... Lets talk about you...

                              What I would do, is to find a female, who is legally called 'Pepsi' (FROM BIRTH... NOT VIA A LEGAL NAME CHANGE)

                              Then set up a site, well no. Actually set up a single page, with a dirty photo of her, & lots of juicy XXX rated text, where 'she' offers to have sex with anyone who emails her... She doesn't have to be hot... Her age isn't important (Aside from being over 18)

                              The page doesn't even need to be promoted at all... Just existing is enough.

                              Then, grass yourself up to Pepsi...Say I was surfing online for their fine product, and were shocked to find such a disgusting site using their product name... Say you had a child with you sat at the PC... whatever... Just kick up a huge fucking stink...

                              Wait a while and you'll get a firm letter from Frito lay inc, telling you to sign over the name to them, to avoid legal action...

                              Reply and say, NO WAY... The girls name is Pepsi, she wants to fuck people... Free speech and all that... We dont mention a sticky brown sweet soda on the site, nor we use your graphics or anything else that references your product... Its her LEGAL NAME... Now GO FUCK YOURSELF....

                              Wait a while, and you'll find that another letter arrives with a hey, look, we dont need this site online... Will you accept this offer?

                              Now, if you say NO and push for more, your in trouble... BUT say yes... And your laughing


                              Now Im NOT saying this will work for you... But I know that a similar thing worked for me! Nuff said


                              👁️ 👍️ 💩

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                              • BlackCrayon
                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                • Jun 2003
                                • 19634

                                #16
                                Email me with the domain names you are concered about and i can give you some advice.
                                you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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                                • Pleasurepays
                                  BANNED - SUPPORTING TUBES
                                  • Aug 2002
                                  • 11913

                                  #17
                                  Hire the law offices of Kimmel, Kimmel and Kimmel. He'll work for Prozac and Lithium and Twinkies

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                                  • ~Ray
                                    visit hardlinks.org
                                    • Jun 2003
                                    • 18361

                                    #18
                                    trying to sell trademarked domains?

                                    this guy has no morals.

                                    pass the problem to someone else, as long as you make a little money.
                                    Last edited by ~Ray; 12-31-2007, 07:59 AM.
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                                    • Why
                                      MFBA
                                      • Mar 2003
                                      • 7230

                                      #19
                                      or what about affiliates that have mistypes of your domains? that violates ICANN rules correct?

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                                      • DaddyHalbucks
                                        A freakin' legend!
                                        • Feb 2004
                                        • 18975

                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by PornMogul
                                        its NOT fuck pepsi. Its a VERY VERY good name that could be considered a trademark. If everyone else can sell a tm name for 50k+ why cant I? Where do I sell a name like this?
                                        Where do you see people selling famous registered and distinctive trademarks for big money?

                                        No place I have ever seen.
                                        Boner Money

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                                        • DaddyHalbucks
                                          A freakin' legend!
                                          • Feb 2004
                                          • 18975

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ThatGuyInTheCorner
                                          Believe it or not, I had a similar thing happen to me, back in early 2004 with a trademarked name... I ended up getting an offer from 'Frito Lay / Pepsi Cola of America' where they paid me for the domain name, which technically included their product name, yet I also had a legitimate pornographic use for...

                                          I really cant be anymore specific regarding what happened to me, but I will say that I was MORE THAN HAPPY to accept the GENEROUS offer they made me, for the domain name... Now, I have said more than I should already... So enough about me.... Lets talk about you...

                                          What I would do, is to find a female, who is legally called 'Pepsi' (FROM BIRTH... NOT VIA A LEGAL NAME CHANGE)

                                          Then set up a site, well no. Actually set up a single page, with a dirty photo of her, & lots of juicy XXX rated text, where 'she' offers to have sex with anyone who emails her... She doesn't have to be hot... Her age isn't important (Aside from being over 18)

                                          The page doesn't even need to be promoted at all... Just existing is enough.

                                          Then, grass yourself up to Pepsi...Say I was surfing online for their fine product, and were shocked to find such a disgusting site using their product name... Say you had a child with you sat at the PC... whatever... Just kick up a huge fucking stink...

                                          Wait a while and you'll get a firm letter from Frito lay inc, telling you to sign over the name to them, to avoid legal action...

                                          Reply and say, NO WAY... The girls name is Pepsi, she wants to fuck people... Free speech and all that... We dont mention a sticky brown sweet soda on the site, nor we use your graphics or anything else that references your product... Its her LEGAL NAME... Now GO FUCK YOURSELF....

                                          Wait a while, and you'll find that another letter arrives with a hey, look, we dont need this site online... Will you accept this offer?

                                          Now, if you say NO and push for more, your in trouble... BUT say yes... And your laughing


                                          Now Im NOT saying this will work for you... But I know that a similar thing worked for me! Nuff said

                                          Bad advice.

                                          All I can guess is that in your case you got very very lucky.

                                          You could have easily got sued.
                                          Boner Money

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                                          • DaddyHalbucks
                                            A freakin' legend!
                                            • Feb 2004
                                            • 18975

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                            I own a trademarked past employer sucks domain. They tried to sue me for it and I sent a motion to dismiss sighting past cases where it was upheld that others could use theirs. Really pissed that company off.

                                            So then I went through the trouble of setting up an account where employees could donate money to a fund. The fund payed for Google Adwords advertising for both their industry and their name. The forum grew like a mutherfucker with people posting things like, "Wow, thanks for letting me know this company is retarded. I will move on to their competitors."

                                            I love that kind of shit.

                                            Ohh the forum also was awesome for things like getting heads together for class action lawsuits and for customers to do the same.
                                            That's a non-commercial use. The standards for commercial speech are more restrictive.
                                            Boner Money

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                                            • roly
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 1844

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by PornMogul
                                              Ok, I have some very nice domains but the only problem is some trademark issues. Just as an example, I have better ones but one I dont care about would be fuckpepsi.com. What would be the best way to sell a trademarked domain. If I go straight to the company. Can they sue me? Would I be better off auctioning off the domain. I saw americanxpress.com go for over 30k. So? Whats the best way to get rid of a trademarked domain?

                                              americanxpress.com is a decent typo, fuckpepsi.com is not even that, its worthless anyway.
                                              Last edited by roly; 01-01-2008, 02:43 AM.

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                                              • minusonebit
                                                So Fucking Banned
                                                • Feb 2006
                                                • 7391

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by PornMogul
                                                Ok, I have some very nice domains but the only problem is some trademark issues. Just as an example, I have better ones but one I dont care about would be fuckpepsi.com. What would be the best way to sell a trademarked domain. If I go straight to the company. Can they sue me? Would I be better off auctioning off the domain. I saw americanxpress.com go for over 30k. So? Whats the best way to get rid of a trademarked domain?
                                                Sell it to me. I am always in the market for such domains. Esp. ones with "fuck" prefixes and "sucks" suffixes.

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                                                • CarlosTheGaucho
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Oct 2005
                                                  • 9560

                                                  #25
                                                  We've actually owned Bigbrother.com from 2004 till late 2006 I guess - was bought for 18 k and coded to get some links for the real bb fans and to drive traffic to our hardcore version site.

                                                  There was a court and no way to retain it, Endemol took it without any compensation.
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                                                  • roly
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Aug 2002
                                                    • 1844

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by CarlosTheGaucho
                                                    We've actually owned Bigbrother.com from 2004 till late 2006 I guess - was bought for 18 k and coded to get some links for the real bb fans and to drive traffic to our hardcore version site.

                                                    There was a court and no way to retain it, Endemol took it without any compensation.
                                                    did they offer to buy it from you first?

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                                                    • Manowar
                                                      jellyfish  
                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                      • 71528

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by CarlosTheGaucho
                                                      We've actually owned Bigbrother.com from 2004 till late 2006 I guess - was bought for 18 k and coded to get some links for the real bb fans and to drive traffic to our hardcore version site.

                                                      There was a court and no way to retain it, Endemol took it without any compensation.
                                                      but they didnt invent big brother, george orwell did

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                                                      • CarlosTheGaucho
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2005
                                                        • 9560

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by roly
                                                        did they offer to buy it from you first?
                                                        Not, it was a court directly, Endemol is a trademark holder for the big brother "reality shows" and is a tough company to compete with.
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                                                        • CarlosTheGaucho
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Oct 2005
                                                          • 9560

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Manowar
                                                          but they didnt invent big brother, george orwell did
                                                          Yeah and we even put there some related content to the book as well as to the Endemol reality series (trademarked stuff) - haven't really helped. I guess the argument was that we are basically misusing the relation to their "big brother" reality show series to promote ours (or say adult) stuff.

                                                          I guess the adult aspect was a vital part of the decision.
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                                                          • pornlaw
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2007
                                                            • 1902

                                                            #30
                                                            I guess the adult aspect was a vital part of the decision.
                                                            Probably true. In the states, a dilution claim can also be brought if the the mark is famous and is being used for such purposes that it tarnishes the mark.
                                                            Michael

                                                            www.AdultBizLaw.com

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                                                            • .~.
                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                              • May 2006
                                                              • 396

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by CarlosTheGaucho
                                                              Yeah and we even put there some related content to the book as well as to the Endemol reality series (trademarked stuff) - haven't really helped. I guess the argument was that we are basically misusing the relation to their "big brother" reality show series to promote ours (or say adult) stuff.

                                                              I guess the adult aspect was a vital part of the decision.

                                                              I don't think it was the "adult" aspect. I think it was your use.

                                                              Big mistake - offering their product (or a competitor's similar product) on that domain name.

                                                              You probably could have kept the name had you been more careful with how you used it.

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