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It's tough to nail down a salary without knowing the skills they bring to the table. Someone who can actually increase revenue would of course be compensated much better than one who can't.
A base salary plus performance bonuses/comissions is possibly a way to go.ISLAND DOLLARS
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Very well said...A good affiliate manager with longevity needs to have the full package. It amazes me how many people think affiliate managers are just monkeys who sing, dance and whore it up. What a true manager should be is a person that knows the business inside and out, has connections to get the site(s) exposure on as many sites as possible, and can get his affiliates the tools they need in a timely manner.
In this business, we deal with people from around the world, so communication is key. You need to know how to interact with people who don't speak english as a first language, you need to know how their business works to send traffic, and you need to make them feel comfortable when promoting your product. In the end, the affiliate manager should be the middleman to get traffic to the program using his/her connections, and they are responsible for giving his/her affiliates the tools they need to see the best conversions.
As for pay, it all depends on what the manager brings to the table. Do they do many other tasks? Do they oversee a staff? Do they assist in managing internal traffic as well? Do they contribute to the online community in a way that reflects positively on the company in which they represent?
So far, Wizzo has hit the nail on the head. You ALWAYS get what you pay for. Too low and you'll have managers in and out of your company as if it had a revolving door installed. Too high and the profit margin is reduced for the owner. If the salary/commission is set in a beneficial spot for the owner(s) and manager with room for growth, you'll see a manager staying with the company for many years..if not eventually moving up as a partner, or taking more of an executive roll atop the program hierarchy.
As with any business, "you scratch my back and I'll scratch yours" holds ground.
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Well since the majority of my sites are automated I am often open for this job anyways.
What could I bring:- Been in this business since 1990 starting with a BBS.
- Have ran or managed at least twelve paysites.
- Currently own or co-own at least 4 paysites.
- Have contacts going back over a decade.
- A bit of know how in photoshop, scripts, and so forth.
- Knowledge of CCbill in and out among many other common scripts.
- Have done my share of free site, tgp, mgp, blog, viral, and other promotions.
- Good basic legal knowledge, very good with valid and enforceable DMCA letters.
- Been told I have a respected board persona which is really the real me.
- I do attend shows.
- I also do refuse to be a whore.
- I can and would promote your program in a drama free way.
- I understand what it is like to be an affiliate now and then, so helping them with their needs is not an issue.
- I am online more than I am offline.
- I use ICQ, AIM, MSN, Gtalk, & Yahoo at all times.
- I have no issues with phone support.
- I have a good eye for mistakes or small corrections that should be done in promo materials and tours.
- I have also managed to remain drama free on all of the boards for as long as they have been up.
- I only speak and read English unfortunately but this can be a bonus for non English programs.
Besides the above I am a great multi-tasker. Would be willing to take on finding and issuing DMCA notices for stolen content. My signature on GFY has sold on GFY alone for well over $1500.00 per month with long term contracts at that price as they did not want to loose me. I often post in business threads and give advice whenever possible.
Depending on the hours and number of days required plus a minimum term length in months. I would consider something no lower than $2000.00 a month with a 6 month minimum term, at 5 days a week, min. 8 hours a day guaranteed. This price for the very right program, may fluxuate by anywhere from 500.00 to 1000.00 depending on the program and level of work needed.Comment
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I might be an example of a person in this category. There are many reasons for doing this:
1. In order to maintain my personal business, I need about 2 hours a day max. Most of my tasks are automated and I have people overseeing some of my tasks so that my business is hands off (gallery submissions, site updates, programming, etc.). In essence, I have 8-12 hours extra a day to devote to the growth of Duke Dollars as a whole, and my output shows that.
2. The liability of me having my own program is high and not something that I ever felt the need to partake in. I don't have the patience to shoot my own content, I don't want to handle affiliate payroll, and I don't want to have to hire a staff of my own. What I can do is take an implemented system and halp to manage it efficiently and effectively.
3. I got in with a solid company on the ground floor. As Duke Dollars has grown, my earnings have as well. Aside from that, my role has increased and I've taken on more of a program manager role as opposed to being an affiliate manager. I've learned lessons by getting more responsibilities than I'd have ever learned doing anything else (school, research, etc).
4. I enjoy knowing that my mortgage, cars, etc. are paid for monthly with my salary and commissions. My additional personal income is just icing on the cake.
5. I actually ENJOY managing Duke Dollars. I enjoy the affiliates, I enjoy working with Duke, Big Red, TDF, etc. My voice is always heard, we've all learned a lot from each other, and it feels like family...yet we are a family that focuses on making money and providing our affiliates with the tools they need to promote us successfully.Comment
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I would say around $32k.Comment
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Bad move, since it seems to only focus on "new blood", how will you separate the joins from existing affiliates, or even better the "sleeping" ones?
Its complicated to do an estimation of the revenue just by looking at join numbers.
Also what makes you believe that even the numbers stay the same and didn't decrease weren't a result of the Affiliate Manangers work (at least in part)?
Like I said...complicated
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60-100K+ for a good affiliate manager. Damn for 30k I could hire monkeys to do work.
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3. Check and balance on sales, cb, refunds etc
6. Looking for new technological advances in adult industry, billings, customer solutions etc.
7. Plan new sites and generate additional profit with existing sites of the program.
8. Be aware to copyrights violations of program content, and take steps to remove pirated content.
Those are pretty basic for affiliate manager? And for 30k a year (what people throw around as the usual)? Well good luck finding that then. In my understanding affiliate manager is someone who, well, manages affiliates. But i'm not a program owner so it's out of my league there, but it seems you people have very high expectations.agentGFY *at* gmail.comComment
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An aff manager should get paid what he/she is worth, or else he/she will go elsewhere.
It also depends on the company financial resources and goals.ICQ 557504926Comment
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a sliding scale percentage of the revenue he's pulling in!Comment
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That's the tricky part. This business is one of seeing immediate and constant results. Often relationships like that take time to grow and mature, and a lot of owners don't have the patience...they want immediate results, and with obscene expectations. If an affiliate manager can come on and at least earn his/her pay back, then you may be on to something. It's even better if trust is established and more assistance than just contacting affiliates can be provided.
There are a handful of great affiliate managers, and a truckload of fly by nighters who just want to make a couple grand a month, going from company to company. Find that person who wants to make your program his/her baby as well, and you'll find that manager with possible partner status (down the road).
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A person who believes to be a good affiliate manager will probably ask to research into your program to sort out the potential. If he sees good business for the future, he will make a reasonable offer to you and will offer to work for free for the first 2 or 3 months to convince you that he is the right guy. Of course he will want a fixed salary combined with a percentage of affiliate sales and a long term contract. But I am sure such a person will ask far more than 100k or 200k.Comment
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Pay me $500,000 and I will make you a ton of money.
Pay me $25,000 and I will shit on your lawn.Comment
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Depends on the size of your program.
If you already do at least 2 million a year I will make that 10 million... and so on.Comment
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They are, tracking how much worth an employee is isn't really that hard.
An affiliate manager gets assigned his play ground. Whether that's new
or existing is irrelevant as when it's existing you can value it and measure
change to its value. Non monetary value can be measured too. So after
based on assigment both parties can agree to the conditions of measurement
and payment based on that. The results are measurable and verifiable for
both parties........so exactly what's difficult to understand in this? No
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The good ones go on commission alone.Comment
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AmenAn Affiliate Manager isn't just a 'board whore' -they need to know the business, have communication skills, know how to build loyalty and have some 'field' experience and in that I mean they need to know what an affiliate faces daily.
Here's a scenario:: A person can make 50-60k on their network with minimal supervision and see getting a job working for a program as an opportunity. They could be earning 30k + commissions (which that alone can = 100k) + some have benefits, bonuses, ability to make connections they wouldn't with their own network + get to go to all shows for the company (at not cost to them). Not every Affiliate Rep is/was a failure in their own attempt. Just FYI.
LB-69, in your particular case, if you plan on sticking to the same niche, you are best off hiring one of your top 10 affiliates (allow them to maintain what they are doing on their own time and let them help others with their expertise). They would know the target market and be helpful to your affiliates. If your plan is to move onto other niches, then get someone who knows your primary niche well and smart enough to apply the same base theory to other niches.
By offering a good base + commission setup you are going to keep them motivated to find affiliates like themselves. They'll better sell your product and help your other affiliates more (cuz they will make more with better affiliates). The more incentive your Affiliate Manager has, the harder they work & the more motivated they are.
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I see a few reps in this thread who have a head on their shoulders and have endless amounts of knowledge. I'd be willing to bet they all make more than some of you think, while deserving every penny.
The wide variety of answers is due to the amount of "affiliate managers" who do nothing but boardwhore and switch companies every 3 weeks. It's really cheapened the public perception of affiliate managers. The majority of reps who have been with large companies for years, are worth their weight in gold. Notice how the large companies have the reps staying the longest? It's often a large company due to the work the affiliate managers put in keeping their webmasters happy (among many other variables of course). Large companies aren't shy about cutting non-producing employees, so that right there shows the value of having great affiliate manager on board.
I guess to sum it up, an employer will always get what he pays for.
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so if there is any good "affiliate manager" who is familiar with the gay adult szene ... hit me up ... i am willing to pay up to 30% on the sales you produce with new affiliates through my affiliate program ... is this the right way to attract good people???Comment
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Have the current affiliate reps post what they make, then multiple that by .75 and you will get what one should be paid.Comment
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