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BoyAlley 12-26-2007 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 13563554)
However this drama's peeked

I think you spoke too soon. Looks like this drama's got legs........

CyberHustler 12-26-2007 11:55 PM

this shit never ends

Phil 12-27-2007 12:00 AM

BoyAlley, I don’t know if you ever bothered to go to college but what kid does is basics of Business Law 1001 class. You hire any attorney and he will explain some things to you. His whole thing is for John to contact him and pay him some money to shut the fuck up. From what I can tell he did get settlement once before, and surely looking for another. I sure hope NATS go through with what they say and just wear his ass down. He’s got no income, no attorney is going to work this shit ‘pro bono’ . The other thing is, even if you win, what are you going to collect from 20 year old needle dick that delivers newspapers for living and goes to las vegas community college.?

pocketkangaroo 12-27-2007 12:20 AM

BoyAlley, he did the same thing with ePassporte awhile back. He told everyone how he'd put them out of business and sue them. Ask him how that went.

sicone 12-27-2007 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13563524)
He's going a damn good job at keeping the drama on the map, he's just going too far... Instead of asking questions people don't have the balls to ask, he simply bash and tries to blow up the issue in mainstream media.

This will only end up hurting us all.

I agree 100% no matter the outcome this will hurt everyones bottom line

Paul Markham 12-27-2007 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Doctor Dre (Post 13563524)
He's going a damn good job at keeping the drama on the map, he's just going too far... Instead of asking questions people don't have the balls to ask, he simply bash and tries to blow up the issue in mainstream media.

This will only end up hurting us all.

At least someone is keeping it on the map. It seems a lot of sponsors have decided the cost of moving from NATS is not worth it and will say anything to get this off the map.

I have asked some very specific questions that John will not answer, will not or cannot?

Questions related to exactly what did he fix when it became obvious his system was compromised and how. It took posters here minutes to find the problem in NATS, the login, times, IP and other things. So what fixing did TMM carry out?

John claims he warned "at risk clients", seen any come forward to verify this?
Yet it appears he did threaten people who were going to make it public.
Did he change the system to make the IP locking down default or did he keep the compromised system default?

I'm not sure about this but maybe others can tell me. Did John tell people who complained unique email addresses were getting spammed that the problem was in the end or not. In the last three months? Remember it's after he "fixed" the problem.

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Originally Posted by Cyber-Hu$tler (Post 13563571)
If what minusonebrain says is true, then it sucks that it takes a racist password sharing coward who's not even in our industry to step up and do something about it.

It's a reflection on us.

Paul Markham 12-27-2007 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13564022)
Your right, ibill owing a ton of money went to a show nothing happened, .xxx went to a show nothing happened, acacia came to a show nothing happened. Im pretty sure piratebay could come to a show and nothing would happen.

Wrong, some would be doing deals with them.

BoyAlley 12-27-2007 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13567762)
Wrong, some would be doing deals with them.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

MarkTiarra 12-27-2007 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bm bradley (Post 13563532)
yep, putting this out where potential members can read about this and misunderstand the situation will definitely stop sales in an industry already suffering from an over load of free porn. fucking brilliant actually, if you're trying to harm this industry. I think this guy is all about being in the spotlight no matter who or what gets hurt. possibly, you can relate? -bmb

Fucking A Right! In all the polls I ever ran (and for those of you who remember that far back, I polled like fucking crazy) the main barriers to entry for anyone joining sites are all trust related. Fear of info being shared, fear of being billed doubly or triply, fear of not being able to cancel, fear of non anonymity on the bill... Nowadays all the free shit must top those issues but they are still major factors. This shit hitting mainstream media is going to cost sales.

Paul Markham 12-27-2007 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkTiarra (Post 13567782)
Fucking A Right! In all the polls I ever ran (and for those of you who remember that far back, I polled like fucking crazy) the main barriers to entry for anyone joining sites are all trust related. Fear of info being shared, fear of being billed doubly or triply, fear of not being able to cancel, fear of non anonymity on the bill... Nowadays all the free shit must top those issues but they are still major factors. This shit hitting mainstream media is going to cost sales.

So is it best to get rid of the rotten apples or hide them?

BluMedia 12-27-2007 03:41 AM

I under-estimated you because you were damn good last night.

rogue employee 12-27-2007 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 13563518)
Of course, these clients would then be called too, which means they'd be publicly identified as people that knew about this problem, but didn't inform the industry because, as OC3 has claimed in their threads, they were afraid of John and threats of lawsuits and/or license revocation. If so, would that amount to claims of extortion or coercion?

I think It's called blackmailing.

SinisterStudios 12-27-2007 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13567811)
So is it best to get rid of the rotten apples or hide them?

Thats calling the kettle black isnt it, you have admitted numerous times that you have "Magic Join Links" or as most people call it, shaving.

People with huge skeletons in their closet shouldnt be be talking about other peoples issues. But then again Paul has never known when to keep his mouth shut, and has lost alot of business because of that.

Barefootsies 12-27-2007 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13564022)
Your right, ibill owing a ton of money went to a show nothing happened, .xxx went to a show nothing happened, acacia came to a show nothing happened. Im pretty sure piratebay could come to a show and nothing would happen.

:2 cents:

commonsense 12-27-2007 05:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 13567757)
At least someone is keeping it on the map. It seems a lot of sponsors have decided the cost of moving from NATS is not worth it and will say anything to get this off the map.

I have asked some very specific questions that John will not answer, will not or cannot?

Questions related to exactly what did he fix when it became obvious his system was compromised and how. It took posters here minutes to find the problem in NATS, the login, times, IP and other things. So what fixing did TMM carry out?

John claims he warned "at risk clients", seen any come forward to verify this?
Yet it appears he did threaten people who were going to make it public.
Did he change the system to make the IP locking down default or did he keep the compromised system default?

I'm not sure about this but maybe others can tell me. Did John tell people who complained unique email addresses were getting spammed that the problem was in the end or not. In the last three months? Remember it's after he "fixed" the problem.



It's a reflection on us.



All of your posturing on the issue is fascinating. For a guy who flat out lies about how your sites do (i.e. magic join links), you've been very vocal about this.


:2 cents:

BVF 12-27-2007 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BoyAlley (Post 13563555)
I so don't toss heterosexual salad.

Breeders don't know how to keep themselves clean back there.
:error

You gotta get in the shower and spread and the cheeks and let that water get all up in there...a simple run across with the cloth won't do it.


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