imperialism

Perhaps some do hate, but others just don't care :pimp

You have to differ between the arrogance and the healthy competitivness / ambitions and the will to make it big and not beeing afraid to sell yourself.

The sense of competitivness, the will to challenge others is not a thing that would really be spread around here because people will rather not stand out of the crowd cause they are lazy and not willing to prove they are something better than the rest of them and will rather follow the crowd.

I don't think it's good, and even it's actually true that may US people might look arrogant for the first glimpse, it's again in many cases about understanding the culture (and they have to be ultimately able not to own themselves).

Frankly - I really did learned a lot about self presentation and how to sell yourself from my US brothers and I am very grateful for that.

Moreover - in contradiction, I would say US is the ultimate country that can accept the success, loves those succesfull (I don't think it's a surface and still believe it's genuine) and can PAY for your abilities and know how - again - here it's mainly total surface and hypocricy and everyone is rather the smartass instead of beeing able not to envy and to admit someone's success and abilities.

:2 cents:

They don't hate Americans... they Hate our Foreign Policy and Gov't
:winkwink::winkwink:

????? WTF are you talking about?

As I mentioned, the average Joe in Europe ain't know that much about foreign policy and government as much as he is fed with the world's sickest standards of mass media culture ever available. :2 cents:

Interference with other countries for political reasons / global influence.
Arrogance (shit like expecting everyone to speak English without taking the time to learn some basics of the language of the country your in)
superiority complex

nice posts carlos

If you ask most Americans they think English is an American thing or the langauge of the world because of the United States.
Not realizing that it's actually because of the English empire that the language is spoken at many countries.

ROFL CLASS!:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

All countries have dicks who like to talk shit, its just the the USA is massive and contains more so they stand out above the rest.

Thanks, I am not trying to win the Nobel Prize for Peace here but there are issues I use to think about and I don't think you can just describe them in a couple of brief points.

White trash is something that you'll find in every country of the world, unfortunately, some of the western white trash, especially from UK, lately regularly enjoys Prague...

You can hardly walk around the center over the weekends after midnight not to hear degenerated taunts and sounds of pissing and womiting on every other corner..

I was kind of amazed - last time I seen one English dude sticking a finger his throat and trying to puke on the others - frankly, I have never seen such an intense display of dementia and degeneration..

:helpme

Because it took the majority of Amercans to vote in Bush not once but twice.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

The States has a long history of being isolationist as a general policy but meddling in others' affairs when it suits its interests best. Sure, all countries should probably do this. But only a few can have a global impact. The current president's arrogance and his administration's depth of corruption underlines the USA's hypocrisy to the rest of the world. When your president can say "We have to stop the horrible dictator and rescue his citizens" for one country with obvious assets while ignoring other similar and even worse situations in Africa, etc etc, then it's just a case of insulting the audience's intelligence.

What's worse is that many Americans take "patriotism" too far and think it means they need to support their government whole-heartedly in all its decisions or they'll be labelled a traitor to their country. And God forbid an American should be called "un-American."

better question is why americans hate most countries lol

:1orglaugh different perspective worth considering.

oh well, america is a big place lol

Yeah, Well States learned from Korea and Vietnam, now they won't go for another armed conflict unless there is not a decent buck in it :winkwink:

Everyone with a little bit of overview (and from the outside world) can see that from 1000 miles away..

I was checking a couple of magazines and newspapers in the States, and there was a very few that wouldn't have something related to the current conflicts in their current issue, what I observed was always the same scheme of the article:

1) there is a recent problem and we are aware of that (say troops in Iraq are slaughtered big time and have a hard time while getting back)
2) a proper analysis why they are there etc. long - very long analysis with many names and people with many titles commenting
3) the resume: in fact it's allright and we have to support them

So the propaganda works on 101 pct. - it has to, if you want to lead a war you can't let anyone disbelief in it, no matter if on the field or the civils.

:2 cents:

Its weird to see how patriotic some Americans are. Not that I mind but when I put a dutch flag on my car my neighbors are seriously gonna question my sanity. Sometimes I think its more of a lets put the flag all over issue then really knowing what your country stands for and what position they take into major political issues.

I think that's very true. I've known people that would up and kill an entire room if they were called Un-American. Mostly people from the south or midwest, pretty much the ultra red. I consider myself patriotic, but not a degree anywhere near that. There is nothing wrong with being patriotic, as long as you can still think for yourself.

That's the problem that a lot of people have. They end up just following the patriotic bandwagon regardless of the track it's on. I mean, the US is a great country and it's provided a lot for me. I don't always agree with everything that happens here, but no place is perfect and there is no possible way to please every single person.

On the flip side to that, there are people that are so anti-American that they can't see the good things, just so focused on the bad the rest doesn't matter. There's always a flipside to everything.

Nothing wrong in loving your country, but if I would put a flag on a car or something, others would also think I am totally insane or a nazi and am going to beat up some gypsies or something :)

Yeah, USA love their Flag, you can see the flag on every single important photo or with any important bulding and any important event.

the US flag has a different meaning to the Americans, thats one thing Ive learned. Its freedom. Our flag has been there for ages and noone really knows what it stands for, its too long ago.

The blue triangle in the CZ flag was to make a difference with the polish flag and spose to be Moravia, I know cause I got Czech friends. Did you know that? Most European ppl have no clue what their flag stands for so why put it on a car.

Good point!

I also think the lack of education in the States keeps people patriotic. The citizens aren't taught logical/critical thinking skills, so they tend to go with the flow. (I'm talking about the bulk of the population, obviously there are tons and tons of intelligent, free-thinking Americans out there.)

Every country has the go with the flow people. They dont think they just follow. But its not as stigmatized to an object as the national flag. At least not in Europe. Go down south and tell people the rebel flag is crap and theyll give you hell. If you do that here noone gives a shit.

Education isnt that bad in the US, its just very centralized to the US. Unless youre half Jewish most ppl have no clue what really happened in WW2, they do know though bout the Civil War. Makes you wonder. At least it does to me.

Love your irony in that last sentence btw.

Well the version I was tought is that those are the colours of freedom and liberty (same colours as on the French flag) just differently put. The first president of Czech Rep was a LOT into France, I guess he even had a french wife..

There are actually historical signs and flags for Bohemia / Moravia / Slezsko (don't know the English word) and you are right - Moravia actually looks a bit like the Polish flag

I wouldn't neccessarily put the lack of any logical/critical thinking skills on the education system. There are people the go to respected schools that don't have any kind of common sense or ability to logically work through a situation that you or I could. But ask them to build a laser to cook up a potatoe and they'll have it together in an hour.

I think lack of critical thinking skills is more of an individual issue rather than a widespread lack of proper education. How many people in your highschool are complete idiots? Took the same classes with the same teachers as you, yet they don't posses critical thinking skills. Everyone reacts to education differently, some people pick it up, some don't, and some pick up more than what they were supposed to.

I think the educational system in the US isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than a healthy majority of the rest of the world.

Sure thing, hitler was a good guy if you think about it. Just look at all the good things he did and stop being focused on the bad things, that way you see he was really great. :1orglaugh:thumbsup.logic 101

What makes you believe in that, seriously? Not speaking about third world countries here...

thats a pretty easy statement

theres a reason why the wealthier part of the US travels to the UK and other EU countries to get their education. Sure standards and "look what I did" but a country that allows pupils to graduate on sports and cheerleading isnt what I call a lot better :2 cents:

It is a bit odd though. America is not a country, it's two continents... It would be like calling England Europe.

They are not forced to use their brain..

Everything in the States works the way to work with an idiot.. the idiot is in demand, the idiot is easier to manipulate..

:2 cents:

Point taken. Alright, I'll rephrase.

The people in this thread are most likely entrepeneurs in the adult business, which means they are most likely pretty independent and free-thinking to begin with. People who are in more common jobs that require less independence and ambition and free thought tend to be more easily swayed by group-think.

I think I'm rambling...

Anyways, I went to a public school here in Vancouver (actually a couple different ones as my family moved around) and pretty much every year from grade four onwards we were taught critical thinking skills. We learned about Venn diagrams, hypotheses, and how to analyze newspaper articles to read between the lines and identify the bias of the author.

The centralization of the American education curriculum has always annoyed me. I met a Florida friend's children (aged 11 and 9) and showed them my road map of the States and Canada and asked them to find Canada. They couldn't. I mean, there's only two countries there! Arg!

Just to illustrate, we had to be able to draw the map of Africa with all the states without any help in our geography lessons...

Best answer.

really? "many americans"??

you mean in what is essentially a two party political system with both sides usually in intense opposition to each other views and attacking each other constantly on every single point, there is a sense that one shouldn't criticize?

seriously?

your post sounds like something you read in a propaganda piece somewhere.

you couldn't possibly support that statement with fact.

your posts are arrogant and condescending and your "opinions" are completely baseless.

I call them cocksuckers, jk.

Seriously, the number one reason people outside the US hate the US is the average american's attitude and ignorance towards anything that isn't purely american in nature. It comes across on nearly every american I've ever met. I've met some really cool yanks in my day, but they were far and few between.

I have already listed what experiences my opinions are based on.

And yes, there is a very strong sentiment especially in American mass media that "If you're not with us, you're against us" and people who don't support the government's actions are counter-productive. This is a well documented phenomenon. Since Congress has gone democratic and Bush is wearing out his welcome, the pendulum has begun to swing the other way. But there's still very little open debate on television. "News" stories feature only one side of an issue, not both, and the station usually has a chosen bias that its stories support. Where both sides of an issue are represented, the unfavourable side is often presented by a more kooky and less respected character than the person who is presenting the favoured side.

Ignorance is the key, but for both sides :2 cents:

Is there a certain resemblence? :winkwink:

again... another ridiculous and arrogant generalization thats both condescending and offensive.

and God forbid anyone get started on Canadian media and their bias AND censorship and the "hidden agenda of conservative media owners"... because that doesn't happen there.... media bias, as explained here apparently just starts and ends with Bush and dumb Americans.

It irks me to get into a debate with a fake nick, it really does. But a few things Canada exports:

many natural resources including pulp, paper, lumber, nickel, diamonds
energy
wheat and other grains
"Ontario today produces more vehicles each year than the neighboring U.S. state of Michigan"
"Canada is by far the United States' largest trading partner, with more than $1.7 billion CAD in trade per day in 2005. This relationship represents 81% of exports and 67% of imports for Canada, [6] and 23% of exports and 17% of imports for the United States"

a few things Canadians have invented

Are you saying all Americans (your "we") fail to see my point or disagree with what I'm saying?

I wouldn't call it a hidden agenda of the station owners. And the US is not the only country with biased media. There is definitely more of a "hoorah" attitude from some news programs in the States than I've seen abroad, though.

Alright, that's enough from me. You guys have fun.

It's pretty much impossible to be ignorant of american ways, they are stuffed down the throats of pretty much every other person in the world.Whether they want them or not. Another reason people outside america can't stand america.

I'm done complaining about america's obvious attempt at conquering the entire world already though. I just wish they'd speed up and take the motherfucker over already...

Something to consider !
 

Perhaps one major factor is religion. If you consider the amount of people who belong to religious groups and clan together as to enforce social policies and claim that both church and state are separate, but hide the fact that it's influence is just the same on the social system... such people are considered to be fanatical in nature; not to say that all religious types are extreme and dangerous.

The two biggest religions are: Christian & Islamic

Sometime I wounder if Christianity was created to stop the spread of the Islam as to create more peaceful social structures... and to balance out the early world as to get away from clan/religious warfare mindset.

So I think it is reasonable and plossible when it comes to US foreign policies to conclude that difference in religious values seem to drive semi-political/religous social agendas world wide and that is whats going on in the mid east and is just more noticeable...

So to answer your question why does everyone hate the US well perhaps its just that the tolerances are different.


Perhaps the US just has more cute girls? :winkwink:


Later,

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Oh our media is incredibly biased too. And yes, Stephen Harper has his lips firmly wrapped around the Bush cock. Even though it hasn't done much of fuck all to the benefit of the Canadian people....

you know, besides all that is being discussed here, the thing I hate in the US the most is the fact that you can sue everyone for basically everything, and you will probably win.
Some people makes this a lifestyle, we have a good example here on this board, I don't even need to mention his nickname.
When you're sit in a bus stop or watching football sunday and there's a spot talking about how a lawyer will help you, you can see how fucked up is your culture.
'Want to fight that ticket?' 'Remove someone from the jail?' give us a call, we will help you!
that's my rant.