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  • Malicious Biz
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    #1

    Ron Paul spam of a different sort

    http://emptv.com/view/ron-paul-doesn...e-your-support

    http://www.infoshop.org/inews/articl...71213042357547

    Things you should consider before hoping on the Ron Paul bandwagon

  • Socks
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    #2
    He's also said that just because he may have an opinion or stance on an issue, it doesn't mean he would move to put it into action in government. He just wants to move the power to the states and let them figure their own state laws out for themselves, whether they go with his stance or not.

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    • collegeboobies
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      #3
      That article sucks, first of all they dont understand half of his positions and are wrong about the assumptions on many outcomes if something they say is bad did happen. Its good to have states rights and its bad to have the federal government involved in stem cell research.

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      • minusonebit
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        #4
        So what. He has flaws. They all do. The only perfect candidate is me. But I am not running (not this year, anyway). Given the choices we have, he is FAR AND AWAY the best candidate for the job. The guy is a Libertarian. He ran on our ticket and is now running as a Republican because the stupid sheep in this country will not vote for anyone who doesn't have a D or an R behind their name.

        Ron is what this country needs. I have never supported a Republican for president in my entire life. But if he gets on the ticket, I will join his campaign and put every ounce of strength into it I can.

        Yes, Ron will get rid of the EPA. He will replace it with laws that leave companies wide open to massive lawsuits if they pollute the land or air around them. Thats BETTER than what we have with the EPA now, because the EPA limits the liability of the companies as well as lets them pollute to a point.
        Last edited by minusonebit; 12-24-2007, 04:48 PM.

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        • buzzy
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          #5
          Do you honestly give a fuck if he supports gay marriage or not? Seriously...who cares lol

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          • notoldschool
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            #6
            Originally posted by minusonebit
            So what. He has flaws. They all do. The only perfect candidate is me. But I am not running (not this year, anyway). Given the choices we have, he is FAR AND AWAY the best candidate for the job. The guy is a Libertarian. He ran on our ticket and is now running as a Republican because the stupid sheep in this country will not vote for anyone who doesn't have a D or an R behind their name.

            Ron is what this country needs. I have never supported a Republican for president in my entire life. But if he gets on the ticket, I will join his campaign and put every ounce of strength into it I can.

            Yes, Ron will get rid of the EPA. He will replace it with laws that leave companies wide open to massive lawsuits if they pollute the land or air around them. Thats BETTER than what we have with the EPA now, because the EPA limits the liability of the companies as well as lets them pollute to a point.
            WTF? I missed too much. Who stole this guys user/pass? I must have read you wrong.


            And to the bill orielly employee that posted that garbage written by a pimple face college student

            Nobody is buying it.
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            • Malicious Biz
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              #7
              Originally posted by Socks
              He just wants to move the power to the states and let them figure their own state laws out for themselves.
              Do you really want the states to decide the future of certain things? Say for example.. oh.. I don't know... the porn industry perhaps? Do you really think if left completely in the hands of the states they would allow our industy to continue unchallenged?

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              • Malicious Biz
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                #8
                Originally posted by notoldschool
                And to the bill orielly employee that posted that garbage written by a pimple face college student

                Nobody is buying it.

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                • notoldschool
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                  Do you really want the states to decide the future of certain things? Say for example.. oh.. I don't know... the porn industry perhaps? Do you really think if left completely in the hands of the states they would allow our industy to continue unchallenged?
                  thats how America was intended dumb ass. Let me explain how its better for the simple minded.

                  if you didnt like the laws in one state you can move to another that fits your needs and beliefs. Under the current system the federal goverment sits in Washington and take money from the highest bidder (special interests & extreme evangelicals) and the whole country has to go by what they say. How does one entity get to tell everyone how to live in every part of the country? Do you think that makes us a free country? More and more the federal goverment is tell us what to eat, drink, and ingest into our own bodies which is unconstitutional period. I could go on for days about why one city having a monopoly on our goverment and our land is no good.
                  No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                  -- Learned Hand

                  http://www.bjpenn.com

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                  • Malicious Biz
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by notoldschool
                    Under the current system the federal goverment sits in Washington and take money from the highest bidder (special interests & extreme evangelicals)
                    The corruption magically disappears when power is shifted to the states?
                    Originally posted by notoldschool
                    More and more the federal goverment is tell us what to eat, drink, and ingest into our own bodies which is unconstitutional period.
                    And that will also magically disappear?
                    Originally posted by notoldschool
                    How does one entity get to tell everyone how to live in every part of the country? Do you think that makes us a free country?
                    Fuck Yeah! Fuck that "..With liberty and justice for all" Shit! Want freedoms other states enjoy? Shop around for your freedoms motherfucker!
                    .

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                    • Grapesoda
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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                      Do you really want the states to decide the future of certain things? Say for example.. oh.. I don't know... the porn industry perhaps? Do you really think if left completely in the hands of the states they would allow our industy to continue unchallenged?
                      the euro union get more organized the US falls apart

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                      • madfuck
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                        #12
                        i concour

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                        • xxxdesign-net
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                          #13
                          lol.. whats up with all the obsessed Ron Paul bashers around here..? They are certainly dedicated and frankly pathetic...

                          Btw, heres a good one from one of your links.. they blame Ron Paul for saying yes to this question in a debate..

                          "Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?"

                          ..but then gets blamed again for being against federal funding for contraceptive-based education.. lol

                          Looks like if he had his way, it would be 0 for both..

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                          • xxxdesign-net
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Malicious Biz

                            The corruption magically disappears when power is shifted to the states?

                            centralisation of power certainly facilitate corruption for your information...

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                            • Malicious Biz
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                              "Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?"

                              ..but then gets blamed again for being against federal funding for contraceptive-based education.. lol

                              Looks like if he had his way, it would be 0 for both..
                              I thought he was for getting the feds out of education totally? He did have his way.. and he voted FOR federal involvement when it clicked with his Fundamental Christian Beliefs. What's with him funding education with federal money?

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                              • Malicious Biz
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                                #16
                                Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                centralisation of power certainly facilitate corruption for your information...
                                What does shifting power to the states do for eliminating corruption? Nothing.

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                                • xxxdesign-net
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                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                                  He did have his way.. and he voted FOR federal involvement when it clicked with his Fundamental Christian Beliefs.
                                  can you give an exemple ?

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                                  • baddog
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by notoldschool
                                    thats how America was intended dumb ass. Let me explain how its better for the simple minded.

                                    if you didnt like the laws in one state you can move to another that fits your needs and beliefs. Under the current system the federal goverment sits in Washington and take money from the highest bidder (special interests & extreme evangelicals) and the whole country has to go by what they say. How does one entity get to tell everyone how to live in every part of the country? Do you think that makes us a free country? More and more the federal goverment is tell us what to eat, drink, and ingest into our own bodies which is unconstitutional period. I could go on for days about why one city having a monopoly on our goverment and our land is no good.
                                    damn you are dumb

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                                    • Malicious Biz
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                      can you give an exemple ?
                                      Yup!
                                      Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                      "Would you bring abstinence-education funding onto equal ground with contraceptive-based education?"
                                      Also:
                                      Originally posted by also from the article you decided to quote the above example from
                                      He also introduced the Sanctity of Life Act in 2005 and 2007, which would define human life as beginning at conception, and remove federal courts' jurisdiction to review cases pertaining to abortion laws. However, Paul voted in favor of the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act, which intrudes upon the states' abortion laws, even though he admits that the federal government has no constitutional authority over abortion.

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                                      • notoldschool
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                                        #20
                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                        damn you are dumb
                                        Just when I was starting to like you. Seriously though, vote for either Guliani or Clinton. They are the real saviors of our country and we should follow blindly. Seriously.
                                        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                        -- Learned Hand

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                                        • xxxdesign-net
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                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                                          What does shifting power to the states do for eliminating corruption? Nothing.
                                          eliminating? no.. but the fact remains, the fewer is the number of those making the decisions, the easier it is to corrupt the bunch..

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                                          • xxxdesign-net
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                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                                            Yup!
                                            didnt you read my post? If Paul wont fund contraceptive-based education.. how much then would the federal funding of abstinance education be if its equal to the other? lol

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                                            • Malicious Biz
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                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                              eliminating? no.. but the fact remains, the fewer is the number of those making the decisions, the easier it is to corrupt the bunch..
                                              So putting power in the hands of 50 state governments = less people to corrupt? I, for some reason, believe your math is flawed.

                                              You're only kidding yourself if you think big money wont just be shifted from the federal to the state level. Corruption is just as bad at the state level. Let's add more money and less federal oversight and see what we end up with shall we?

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                                              • Malicious Biz
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by xxxdesign-net
                                                didnt you read my post? If Paul wont fund contraceptive-based education.. how much then would the federal funding of abstinance education be if its equal to the other? lol
                                                Point being he is supposed to be for removing the federal government from education right? How does voting for federal funding for any aspect of it accomplish that exactly?

                                                Also pay close attention to his earmarks:
                                                http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/all...tx.14.paul.pdf

                                                What's with him getting pork barrel money for the university of texas? He wants the feds out of state education, but spending federal money on it is just fine?

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                                                • xxxdesign-net
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                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                                                  So putting power in the hands of 50 state governments = less people to corrupt? I, for some reason, believe your math is flawed.
                                                  lol.. uh.. yeah.. lets say theres 5 people at the top of a country... quite easy to corrupt..
                                                  if theres 5 at the top of 50 states... sure... many states may have corrupt leaders.. but what are the chances that happen in 50 states?
                                                  Last edited by xxxdesign-net; 12-24-2007, 08:46 PM.

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                                                  • minusonebit
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                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                    damn you are dumb
                                                    Fucking A, you and I agree about something for once.

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                                                    • baddog
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                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                      Just when I was starting to like you.
                                                      Please don't. I would hate for anyone to think we were "bro's."

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                                                      • xxxdesign-net
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Malicious Biz

                                                        Also pay close attention to his earmarks:
                                                        http://i.cnn.net/cnn/interactive/all...tx.14.paul.pdf

                                                        What's with him getting pork barrel money for the university of texas? He wants the feds out of state education, but spending federal money on it is just fine?

                                                        I think Paul responded to that quite well in his meet the press interview

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                                                        • minusonebit
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                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                                                          So putting power in the hands of 50 state governments = less people to corrupt? I, for some reason, believe your math is flawed.

                                                          You're only kidding yourself if you think big money wont just be shifted from the federal to the state level. Corruption is just as bad at the state level. Let's add more money and less federal oversight and see what we end up with shall we?
                                                          It doesn't fucking matter what it does or doesn't do. The federal government is for raising a national defense and protecting, upholding, enforcing and defending the constitution. Thats it. Its not for providing food for the homeless, planning your retirement, schooling your kids, building highways or any of the zillions of other things it does that it has no business doing. The federal government of today, for the most part, exists in violation of the law.

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                                                          • baddog
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                                                            #30
                                                            As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

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                                                            • Malicious Biz
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                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                              The federal government of today, for the most part, was voted into law by congress*. Which is well within constitutional boundaries.
                                                              Fixed

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                                                              • notoldschool
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                                                                #32
                                                                Originally posted by minusonebit
                                                                It doesn't fucking matter what it does or doesn't do. The federal government is for raising a national defense and protecting, upholding, enforcing and defending the constitution. Thats it. Its not for providing food for the homeless, planning your retirement, schooling your kids, building highways or any of the zillions of other things it does that it has no business doing. The federal government of today, for the most part, exists in violation of the law.
                                                                You are a tricky one.
                                                                No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                -- Learned Hand

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                                                                • Malicious Biz
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  Originally posted by baddog
                                                                  As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.
                                                                  I doubt anyone will be able to vote for Paul in any meaningful or official way.

                                                                  He most likely wont make it that far into the race.

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                                                                  • baddog
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                                                                    I doubt anyone will be able to vote for Paul in any meaningful or official way.

                                                                    He most likely wont make it that far into the race.
                                                                    I was being nice and trying to make a point that paultards do not seem to understand. I guess they just don't get it.

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                                                                    • mechanicvirus
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      mali 4 prez 2008 bring 'tucky life to the masses

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                                                                      • notoldschool
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        The republicans are in trouble if Gulliani, Romney, or Huckabee get to the big dance. The democrats could run a mexican illegal alien over them losers. Even the Evangelicals cant figure out which one to back.
                                                                        No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                        -- Learned Hand

                                                                        http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                                        • Iron Fist
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          HAPPY HOLIDAYS!
                                                                          i like waffles

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                                                                          • buzzy
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by baddog
                                                                            As far as who I will vote for, I can't vote for Paul as I am a registered Democrat. As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.
                                                                            Obama

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                                                                            • collegeboobies
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by baddog
                                                                              I was being nice and trying to make a point that paultards do not seem to understand. I guess they just don't get it.
                                                                              Quite the opposite, it is you who dont "get it" and you will see in less than 2 weeks.

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                                                                              • baddog
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by buzzy
                                                                                Obama
                                                                                As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.

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                                                                                • baddog
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by collegeboobies
                                                                                  Quite the opposite, it is you who dont "get it" and you will see in less than 2 weeks.
                                                                                  I have to ask . . . what will you consider a victory? Third place?

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                                                                                  • buzzy
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                    As a Democrat I will vote for someone I think can win the presidency.
                                                                                    Obama > Hillary

                                                                                    For the love of God don't vote for hilary lol.

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                                                                                    • baddog
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by buzzy
                                                                                      Obama > Hillary

                                                                                      For the love of God don't vote for hilary lol.
                                                                                      Neither of them can win the presidency.

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                                                                                      • buzzy
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by baddog
                                                                                        Neither of them can win the presidency.
                                                                                        OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
                                                                                        SPARTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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                                                                                        • charlie g
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          What gives me a chuckle is how you anti paul guys rail on "paultards" being fanatics, and I see the same old guys in every RP thread. Talk about obsessive!

                                                                                          And why can't you guys use any real arguments against RP's positions? I can think of several places where you could attack him and seem somewhat logical. But you probably haven't read any of his speeches or positions. It's easier just to snipe BS and quote fox news or mother jones. You are not enlightened
                                                                                          AlanAgus1 at gmail dot com
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                                                                                          • HouseHead
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            hey man ron paul for lyfe.
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                                                                                            • Malicious Biz
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                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              Originally posted by charlie g
                                                                                              And why can't you guys use any real arguments against RP's positions?
                                                                                              The Ron Paul grazing pasture for hopeless sheep is that way>>>>>>>>>

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                                                                                              • V_RocKs
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                I have to say... The whole Federal Funding of public works is a bad idea. Like Notoldschool said earlier, The states are not supposed to be equal. They are supposed to be individualized societies and you can pick and choose where you want to live based on what a state has to offer you.

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                                                                                                • notoldschool
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by Malicious Biz
                                                                                                  The Ron Paul grazing pasture for hopeless sheep is that way>>>>>>>>>
                                                                                                  Who do you think is a good candidate and why?
                                                                                                  No doubt one may quote history to support any cause, as the devil quotes scripture.
                                                                                                  -- Learned Hand

                                                                                                  http://www.bjpenn.com

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                                                                                                  • Malicious Biz
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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by notoldschool
                                                                                                    Who do you think is a good candidate and why?
                                                                                                    I don't like any of them. Because they are all duplicitous fuckheads with hidden agendas and Ron Paul is no different.

                                                                                                    If you think he isn't into some serious bible thumping agenda type shit you're only kidding yourself.

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