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  • Phil
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    • Jan 2004
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    #1

    Suicide - weakness or loud way to say fuck you????

    Thinking of a friend that went off this year for really no reason. As usual, bad relationship.. Bam.. Hes’ gone. Shot himself with nasty note to his girlfriend. Now she is all fucked up, on medication… Blaming it all on herself. Weird eh?
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  • minusonebit
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    • Feb 2006
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    #2
    Its both, actually. But its weak. If you've got a problem, do something about it.

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    • Linguist
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      • Apr 2004
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      #3
      It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem ... I suppose he got what he wanted though
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      • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
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        • Jul 2006
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        #4
        Originally posted by Linguist
        It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem ... I suppose he got what he wanted though
        interesting way to put it, never heard it put that way before. quite true...

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        • JamesK
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          • Jun 2002
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          #5
          It's weak and selfish.

          My good friends father comitted suicide a while back. It ruined his life.
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          • Damian_Maxcash
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            • Oct 2002
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            #6
            Too big a question to base on one guy.

            Mental illness can cause tempory lapses in judgement... so if he was prone to severe depression he would have taken the break up worse than most.

            It is just that as well - an illness just like a cold or cancer.

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            • HoneyBlond
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              #7
              I believe it is a very selfish choice.
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              • [ScreaM]
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                • Jan 2005
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                #8
                Suicide is what cowards do.

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                • marketsmart
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                  • Dec 2004
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                  #9
                  suicide is always sad.. i wish we were taught as children that its ok to seek mental health and not a sign of weakness..

                  i feel bad for your friend and worse for the girl that is steal here... the pain ended for your friend, but will last through the life of the girl...

                  tragic....

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                  • GregE
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                    • Jul 2004
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Linguist
                    It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem ...
                    Excellent way to put it.

                    If the problem is permanent, like entering the unpleasant stages of a fatal disease or even perhaps when faced with humongous legal problems, it might make sense.

                    Otherwise, it is always a bad idea.

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                    • Forest
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                      • Aug 2001
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                      #11
                      it is the ultimate selfish act any one person can do

                      its sad.

                      I have a family member and one of my best friends who have committed suicide

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                      • CurrentlySober
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                        • Aug 2002
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                        #12
                        Suicide is painless, it brings on many changes...
                        and I can take or leave it if I please...

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                        • Turf
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                          #13
                          your life, your choise..
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                          • Iron Fist
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by CAMOKAT
                            Thinking of a friend that went off this year for really no reason. As usual, bad relationship.. Bam.. Hes? gone. Shot himself with nasty note to his girlfriend. Now she is all fucked up, on medication? Blaming it all on herself. Weird eh?
                            Mission Accomplished then I guess - what a fucktard - the ultimate act of selfishness.
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                            • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by CAMOKAT
                              Thinking of a friend that went off this year for really no reason. As usual, bad relationship.. Bam.. Hes’ gone. Shot himself with nasty note to his girlfriend. Now she is all fucked up, on medication… Blaming it all on herself. Weird eh?

                              with all the bombs and guns you claim to have in our ICQ chat,,,, I look back at this thread in hindsight and everything s starting to add up

                              I sure hope they are watching you already
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                              • Brother Bilo
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                                • Jun 2007
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                                #16
                                It's the a pussy's way out of a bad situation. Deal with your problems like everyone else, with plenty of booze and women with loose morals.

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                                • Agent 488
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                                  • Feb 2006
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                                  #17
                                  can be selfish if say still relatively healthy and just going through a bad patch or whatever - but if losing ones quality if life due to illness or old age can be heroic to end pointless suffering.

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                                  • Zango
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                                    • Oct 2006
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                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by Turf
                                    your life, your choise..
                                    Yup. And some of us choose not to go to school.

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                                    • pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE
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                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by budsbabes
                                      can be selfish if say still relatively healthy and just going through a bad patch or whatever - but if losing ones quality if life due to illness or old age can be heroic to end pointless suffering.
                                      please dont tell this lunatic that

                                      I have reported him to https://tips.fbi.gov/

                                      via ICQ he told me that he had enough guns to supply asmall army as well some powerful explosives

                                      he said suicide would be an honor all kind of crazy shit

                                      I plan to report him once per day

                                      I am not religous or easily afraid... but I think this guy is for real and he scares the crap out of me

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                                      • mrwilson
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                                        • Jul 2007
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                                        #20
                                        I personally feel suicide is for the sick, not the weak or the cowards.
                                        To attempt suicide and for whatever reason he/she is really crying out for help.



                                        Last edited by mrwilson; 01-07-2008, 07:24 AM.

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                                        • xmas13
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                                          • Dec 2004
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                                          #21
                                          No big deal, he is not going to miss a lot of things, what is life all about? Work and sleep, and a few hours of real fun per week.

                                          Plus the planet is overpopulated.

                                          I don't think this was selfish and coward, but an act of courage.

                                          Society standards are ridiculous, i hate the whole 'do what i say, not what i do'.

                                          No wonder why the Church is still so powerful in 2008 in this fucked up world.

                                          Church goers are people who should better kill themselves and let us enjoy our lives.

                                          Rest in peace dude.
                                          Last edited by xmas13; 01-07-2008, 07:44 AM.
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                                          • sniperwolf
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                                            • Mar 2005
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                                            #22
                                            it's a self-centered choice! you're coward enough to face the reality!
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                                            • Agent 488
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                                              • Feb 2006
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                                              #23
                                              i am talking about people with terminal or life crippling illnesses not people posting on gfy all day.

                                              Originally posted by pussyserver
                                              please dont tell this lunatic that

                                              I have reported him to https://tips.fbi.gov/

                                              via ICQ he told me that he had enough guns to supply asmall army as well some powerful explosives

                                              he said suicide would be an honor all kind of crazy shit

                                              I plan to report him once per day

                                              I am not religous or easily afraid... but I think this guy is for real and he scares the crap out of me

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                                              • the alchemist
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                                                • Dec 2004
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                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Linguist
                                                It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem ... I suppose he got what he wanted though
                                                Well said... Suicide is usually not a choice, but a lack of choices.
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                                                • SleazyDream
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                                                  #25
                                                  it's a mental illness
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                                                  • TubeTitans_SusieQ
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                                                    #26
                                                    If that's the case, homeboy had more problems to begin with....even before her





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                                                    • Bex
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                                                      #27
                                                      Weakness.


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                                                      • tranza
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                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Damian_Maxcash
                                                        Too big a question to base on one guy.

                                                        Mental illness can cause tempory lapses in judgement... so if he was prone to severe depression he would have taken the break up worse than most.

                                                        It is just that as well - an illness just like a cold or cancer.
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                                                        • yungwon
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                                                          #29
                                                          agreed with what he said too
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                                                          • angeleyes
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                                                            #30
                                                            It's weak and a cry for help. Now, if they shove a rifle in their mouth, that is no cry, that is someone that is just plain miserable and doesn't want to be here.
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                                                              • polle54
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                                                                #32
                                                                fucking coward shit leaving something that behind...
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                                                                • shekinah
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                                                                  #33
                                                                  life is what you make it.. but don't take the cowards way out if you think you've got nowhere to go.

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                                                                  • DirtyProfits
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                                                                    #34
                                                                    It's disrespectful against nature and cosmos. We are supposed to live and struggle no matter how bad our lifes suck.

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                                                                    • Vick!
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                                                                      #35
                                                                      Originally posted by Linguist
                                                                      It's a permanent solution to a temporary problem ...
                                                                      Wow, I like this explanation. I totally agree
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                                                                      • Brad
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                                                                        #36
                                                                        It's probably the most selfish act one can perform. However, for some it is entirely necessary as they are not able to live in their own skin. There are a host of mental diseases that are probably worse to live with than any pain you would experience through love, rejection, failure, or temporary depression. For these people life is not the same, every moment is a struggle and that begins to weigh heavy on anyone over time.
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                                                                        • Brad
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                                                                          #37
                                                                          Originally posted by Damian_Maxcash
                                                                          Too big a question to base on one guy.

                                                                          Mental illness can cause tempory lapses in judgement... so if he was prone to severe depression he would have taken the break up worse than most.

                                                                          It is just that as well - an illness just like a cold or cancer.
                                                                          Schizophrenia is no cold or cancer unfortunately. There is no temporary here.

                                                                          Obviously I am not referring to the person the original poster was talking about, just adding to the discussion in general.
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                                                                          • C_U_Next_Tuesday
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                                                                            #38
                                                                            weakness

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                                                                            • Steve Awesome
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                                                                              #39
                                                                              Weakness. Besides, why get off the bus when there are other places to see?

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                                                                              • Drake
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                                                                                #40
                                                                                It may be selfish or represent weakness on some level but it's not cowardice nor immoral. If somebody feels that they have nothing to offer to the world and that the world has nothing to offer them, then their decision to leave voluntarily may be reasonable.

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                                                                                • Drake
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                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Oh and yes, in the case of say, an Adolf Hitler, it's a loud way of saying "fuck you" by not giving your opponents the chance to exact retribution.

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                                                                                  • Just_in_Support
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                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    If your religious, then you could say Holy Shit what an Idiot, He's gonna burn.

                                                                                    If your agnostic or atheist, you probably have a different set of moral directives, and dont believe anyhing will actually happen if you die, then why do you care.

                                                                                    Even claiming all the suffering it will cause, you still believe that if a person suffers it only matters in this lifetime (and maybe one generation more) and no other.

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                                                                                    • Shaze
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                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      this is a pretty easy answer....it's "weakness".

                                                                                      if you notice the majority of people that commit suicide are the ones that can't handle life's problems.
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                                                                                      • BlackCrayon
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                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Total weakness. Especially when its over stupid shit like relationships or money. Its like saying that person or thing has such control over my life i can't live without it. Very weak.
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                                                                                        • AZSarah
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                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          I don't think it's "weakness" .. we all have all had weak moments and broken hearts... and here we are.

                                                                                          I have only personally known one individual that took their own life. This person was so loved, so special & now she's gone.
                                                                                          Based both on studies, and my personal experience, I would say that it is a psychological issue. And it is often times elevated by drug use, but not a personality defect in most cases.
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                                                                                          • Drake
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                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by BlackCrayon
                                                                                            Total weakness. Especially when its over stupid shit like relationships or money. Its like saying that person or thing has such control over my life i can't live without it. Very weak.
                                                                                            It all depends. I could totally understand somebody serving a life sentence in prison choosing to commit suicide. Freedom for some, is essential to life. Imagine being locked in a human cage indefinitely, never being able to just get up and go where you want. Some would consider that worse than death.

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                                                                                            • Violetta
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                                                                                              it is sad and often selfish. I actually witnessed the police (standing on the bridge looking down), a helicopter and some boats looking for a guy who just had jumped from a bridge... fucking sad.
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                                                                                              • Drake
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                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Also if somebody is experiencing tremendous physical pain (say, from incurable a disease) and wants to opt out, I say go for it. What's the point in living only to suffer.

                                                                                                Maybe these are extreme cases and not really applicable to the OP's question. But thought I'd throw them out there. It seems there are few absolutes in life.

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                                                                                                • puravida
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                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  I don't think suicide is a weakness at all. It's the ultimate act of courage. If you're a relatively mentally-healthy person, try to convince your brain that you want to die, and carry out the act. You simply can't do it. It's rather difficult. So, as I said, it's quite courageous.

                                                                                                  On another note, if the departed had any kind of mental illness, then it's no different than any other type of illness/disease that the body can be inflicted with. As such, their brains will react differently to different situations.

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                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Courage is facing your problems, overcoming them, and carrying on to be a better person.

                                                                                                    Suicide is for fucking sissies, it's total weakness and failure.
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