Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 13576555)

When a computer running ANY OS is doing a task like encoding video, it will try to use 100% of the processing power available to it. If it doesn't, it isn't going as fast as it can. Are you saying that macs don't use 100% of the processing power available to them for tasks?

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 13576732)

according to the system stats no... when I check activity monitor as well as istat I have not had a 100% on this core 2 duo yet.. am I doing something wrong? is my computer fucked? if so then tell me why it renders faster than a 4000 dollar windows machine? oh let me guess I have to mess with the settings on the windows machine to get the tru speed right?

look I do not know the inner workings of computers or processors but I do know this... ive been on computers the better part of half my life and with just recently switching over to mac about 6 months ago.. I am very pissed I did not make the switch earlier... everything works and it works fast....

Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 13567557)

Macs might be great, but they sure do have some shitty mice. I see they have that 'mighty-mouse' now (which isn't too bad, but still blows), but for a looooong time they've been rolling on a one button mouse that was made for the hands of a midget.

Originally Posted by Babaganoosh (Post 13576779)

It's all about what works for you.:thumbsup

Originally Posted by Yoni (Post 13577000)

As far as I know Asus manufactures hardware for Apple laptops. So what's the difference? Are they more stable than Asus notebooks running Windows. I think not. It's more about OS than hardware advantages/disadvantages.

Originally Posted by donkevlar (Post 13567690)

I don't do all that much in 3d, but as far as I can tell Maya works fine on a mac?

I'll mostly be using it for music (propellerheads reason, cubase, protools) and graphics (ps, illustrator and flash) and I'm quite happy with it so far.

I hated windows before, but as im getting used to this macbook Im DESPISING windows.

Originally Posted by jeffrey (Post 13569090)

Just because I like pissing off Mac fan boys I am going to reply.
Befor I reply I want to say that I want a MacBookPro, but they just simply want far too much money for it, and no accidental damage coverage? I use my accidental damage coverage on my old dell at least once a year, heavy travel use just causes damage, no real way to avoid it. Its nice to have it fixed and back in my hands inside a week at no cost.



If your doing rendering and the computer is not working at 100% then its not doing it as fast as it can. I think you are full of it, doubt you even have a mac.

I *can* run photoshop and render video at the same time, and it doesnt lag for me, but they both complete operations in about double the time as when they are the sole program doing hard work. Which makes sence, now instead of having 100% of the computer power they only have 50% each.
Uploading and IM doesnt take enough resources to slow down rendering or photoshop work.

You buddy got a bunk machine, that is far outside the median.

I am running Vista Ultimate



1. No its not. Lay down the crack pipe.

2. Odd, Intel doesnt make a "Mac" version of their chips. So how can it be a step ahead?

3. lol, You must be the leader of a Mac Fanboy club somewhere.

4. Most things for windows work right out of the box, plug and play.



Can you define this "a lot of processing power" that antivirus software uses?
I didnt run any antivirus for a long time, and still had no problems. but resently put Nod32 on, it uses so little processing power that with the monitor open when I open or close the antivirus and only see a tiny blip while opening or closing, but then goes right back to normal idle.

As a "power user" if your running a 64 bit version of Vista you can run 128+GB of ram. Well thats what it can support at least.

I would put money on there being as many or more free programs for windows then there are for the Mac.


1. I have never used a mac, but have used them a lot in school, even the new intel ones.
2. older Macs should just be called POS's and left to rot.
3. The same thing happens with Vista, biggest is Ram allocation, which vista is actually very good at.


The big thing I hate about Macs is simply the price, and the fact that you can not configure them how you really want.
I mean 700 bucks to go from 2gb ram to 4gb in the MB. 200 to go from a 5400rpm drive to a 7200rpm drive. No internal wireless N abilities.
Etc Etc.

Sure most people say "just buy the basic and upgrade it cheaper after from newegg" but thats bunk.
For the base price on the MBP 15" 2.4Ghz machine I can build a Dell XPS 1530 that is twice as fast and has accidental damage coverage, and still have money left over to buy a nice 21" monitor and second battery. Not to mention the 1530 is lighter then the MB too.

That said if Apple had a 50% off day so the price was competative with the likes of Dell I bet they would almost even out the market share on that day.

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 13576539)

Ill just let your me not having a mac comment go.. and since your sitting here saying you never owned a mac then it's understandable that your computer uses 100% of the cpu it's running windows...

now .. as far as accidental coverage and I may be wrong on this but when you buy the apple care plan with your mbp or imac or macpro.. you get everything covered for 3 years.. ive had keys replaced (for free) my buddy dropped his mbp the other day on the paintball field and broke the screen from the unit (if you can picture what im saying) we took it to the mac store here in the mall... the genius looked at it.. saw he had apple care plan went in the back grabbed him a NEW mbp in the box took it out.. transfered the hard drive over and we were on our way... does dell do that or do you have to send it in? now ive posted my set up once now to show my mac... I can show you the 4 comps that this little MBP replaced as well if you like... want me to take a pic of everything?

now do yourself a favor go get the 15 inch 2.4 macbook pro.. as far as the ram go's 2 will do you great.. im only running 2 right now... I am going to go 4 in the future but really no need... only reason im doing it is because it can... as far as the 7200 vs. 5400 for the hd's... who cares... if your like me you have terabyte after terabyte of externals anyways... shit in that pic right there is a seagate 300gig. 160 gig is plenty for on the road stuff then when back in the office you hook up to externals...

Originally Posted by teg0 (Post 13576877)

I run mac because I like the stability of *nix, but I like being able to natively run comercial apps like photoshop and office.

I can be productive in *nix, Mac, or Windows. My macs just give me a lot better performance, better stability, and its just sexier. I always built custom high end PCs for all my old computers. They worked fine, but after 10+ years of doing that you kind of get sick of all the bullshit that comes with it. Windows blue-screening, shit just deciding not to work, having to restart every couple days because of memory leaks and things.

Its easy to talk shit about macs and reject them because you cant afford one, or because you tried Mac OS 8 once and didn't like it.

Originally Posted by Lance69 (Post 13577384)

Just got an iMac... I have barely touched my PC since. Once I get the Mac Book Pro, I'll probably never touch one again.
Off topic I used to use Acdsee Pro for watermarking my pics. Anyone know of a good Mac program for that? I just hate having to separately batch PS for Portrait and Landscape photos.

Originally Posted by jeffrey (Post 13578213)

You have a very lucky friend. Our "Apple Store" around here is BestBuy. you MUST send in for ANY warranty issues. 3-6 week turn around. Does not cover accidental damage or water damage.
This is from a Mac fan boy at best buy, he seemed to know a lot, but I guess I should talk to someone else.

Dells coverage, they send you a box that gets here next day with a packing slip. Drop it off. 3-5 days later you have your machine back fixed. Even if you were sitting on a floaty in a pool and feel a sleep and it slipped off into the pool. Or at starbucks and had coffee spilled on it. Or in the airport and someones bag knocks it off onto the floor. Dell fixed those all on my GF's laptop, and that is just in the last 8 months. Her laptop has been in like 12 times in the 2 years she has had it. And the most down time was 5 days.
If Apple could actually do that, it would make it a lot easier for me to buy one.

I want the 7200rpm drive so when I am working with large files its quick, it has nothing to do with hard drive space.






I REALLY need to get a laptop here. Every day I look at the 15" 2.2Ghz MBP, with AppleCare its $2600 CDN.
But then I go to dell and build the XPS 15.4" 2.4Ghz, with complete coverage, Wireless N, 7200rmp drive. And its $2100 CDN.
But if I buy from the kiosk at the mall or phone and ask for a discount I can get 15% off on the dell. So now its only $1785.

I can find lots of ways to spend $815 bucks. Especially since I am getting a faster machine.
Aperture is a nice program though, but its 350 more bucks.... Apple just doesn't seem to stack up. I mean I still haven't settled though. So I guess that says something.
Also http://www.apple.com/support/products/proplan.html doesn't mention anything about accidental damage anywhere, it does however say it "Extends hardware repair coverage to three years from computer's purchase date" so basically just defects.
Dells site calls it Accidental Damage coverage.

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza (Post 13578458)

go with the MBP seriously... as far as the applecare plan go's trust me it's better than dell's... ive seen that with my own eyes... alot of best buy's are getting apple stores in them now with a genius bar and everything...