anyone buying a new Skyline / GTR?

[s9ann0]

they are bringing the Nissan GTR to US right?


I think they look pretty fugly but seems like it has serious performance

[k0nr4d]

Good luck seeing any of that performance in the US model.

I'll be trying to get my hands on one when it comes to europe in 2008/09 though.

[Redmanthatcould]

I've been receiving the newsletter for awhile now...it should be early 2008, but we'll see

Can't wait!!

Fugly...???

[tranza]

Looks pretty nice...

[Nubiles]

ugly as hell but nice performance numbers

[CE_Ardy]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

Good luck seeing any of that performance in the US model.

I'll be trying to get my hands on one when it comes to europe in 2008/09 though.

Actually it has already been tested in several magazines, performance numbers are amazing for the us spec car.

[LiveDose]

I drove an old Skyline in Japan a number of years ago. One word:

AWESOME!

[Violetta]

It looks awsome!

[WarChild]

No way, not with the new 2009 Corvette ZR1 coming out.

Sporting the all new 6.2L supercharged small block LS9, putting out more than 600 HP and easily upgraded by changing the pulley. The front rotors are almost 16" themselves.

[VeriSexy]

What a sexy beast

[DutchTeenCash]

Originally Posted by WarChild

No way, not with the new 2009 Corvette ZR1 coming out.

Sporting the all new 6.2L supercharged small block LS9, putting out more than 600 HP and easily upgraded by changing the pulley. The front rotors are almost 16" themselves.

First of all yes Corvettes are nice. But when youre comparing a Skyline with a vette Im sorry thats just wrong.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

First of all yes Corvettes are nice. But when youre comparing a Skyline with a vette Im sorry thats just wrong.

You're right, the Corvette will blow the doors off the Skyline, so really no comprassison.

[CE_Ardy]

The new Nissan GT-R is not officially a skyline, its a USA spec sklyine in a sense. 0-100 km from 3.3 to 3.5 seconds, thats faster then pretty much anything out there and for 70k i really don't think it will have much competition

[DutchTeenCash]

Originally Posted by WarChild

You're right, the Corvette will blow the doors off the Skyline, so really no comprassison.

offcourse I could expect a patriotic response like that - do yself a fav and check out the specs first, those cars are equipped with engines a vette can never ever cope with.

[96ukssob]

its a sweet car, and ive heard the price will be about $80k to $90k USD. Not bad for the 3rd fastest production car out, but I dont think its on my wish list

[Iron Fist]

Originally Posted by VeriSexy

What a sexy beast

Nice curves indeed....

[D Ghost]

Nice looking automobile

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DutchTeenCash

offcourse I could expect a patriotic response like that - do yself a fav and check out the specs first, those cars are equipped with engines a vette can never ever cope with.

First off I'm Canadian so how does patriotic fit in to it?
Second off, and more importantly, do _yourself_ a favour and check out the specs. I'm going to make it easy for you and provide them.

2009 Nissan GT-R: http://www.gtrnissan.com/specs.en.us.html

480 hp @ 6,400 rpm. 430 lb-ft torque @ 3,200–5,200 rpm.
Curb weight (not from specs page, not lsited there) a whopping 3800 pounds.
Power To Weight Ratio: 7.91 lb/hp

2007 Corvette Z06: http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Sp...ette&trimid=-1
505 @ 6300 RPM. 470 lb-ft torque @ 4800 RPM
Curb weight: 3132 lbs
Power To Weight Ratio: 6.20 lb/hp

2009 Corvette ZR1 (Blue Devil) http://jalopnik.com/cars/detroit-aut...r+1-301413.php

Specs not yet fully released.
600-650HP
Uses more carbon fibre and will be lighter than the Z06.

So as you can see even a Z06 has more horsepower and a lot less weight than your precious GT-R.

The ZR1 is more than 700 pounds lighter and has 120-170 more HP.

Care to tell us what magical part the GT-R uses to make a heavier car with less power go faster?

Don't get me wrong, the GT-R is a nice car for sure, but the ZR1 Corvette like I already said will blow it's fucking doors completely off. No kidding. Knowledge is power.

[WarChild]

Oh yeah, PLUS the Lexus LFA is coming, and that's going to be one hell of an import.

[PremiumPassJon]

i was just at the dealer up in montreal yesterday about this car.... delivery in canada is July 08...and there are several restrictions to buy i.e. 10k down to reserve (non-refundable, must sign a contract that you cant re-sell for at least a year etc.,.,)
My dealer showed me a road test which was done with one already on the road in Japan and it did 0-60 in 3.3 seconds ....now that is faster that the VIper, corvette and the 911 TURBO!!! the car is incredible!!!

[noone1]

I put a deposit on one. Not sure if I'll actually want it come delivery because my R8 comes in May.

[k0nr4d]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Care to tell us what magical part the GT-R uses to make a heavier car with less power go faster?

All wheel drive. Traction with 650hp in a car that light will be a problem with rwd.

[Dollarmansteve]

0-60 schmeero to 60.

0-60 runs mean nothing about a cars performance.. Road conditions, tires, gearing, etc all affect the time.

I'll take a naturally aspirated big displacement V-8 any day.. There is nothing quite like mashing down the gas pedal in 4th gear at 120 kmph on the highway in my Z06.. chirping the tires and CHARGING up to 200km/h.

waiting for a turbo to spool up or dropping 2 gears to get the revs into the power zone.. just not a fun in real-world driving.

If I'm on a race track, ya, having an s2000 with it's sewing machine spinning a 8 grand and tossing it around like a go-kart is fun.. but.. seriously..

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by k0nr4d

All wheel drive. Traction with 650hp in a car that light will be a problem with rwd.

I knew somebody was going to bring this up.

You're right, AWD does help with traction. You do get really nice 0-60 times with AWD but at a high cost: Weight and drive line loss.

Part of what makes that Nissan so heavy is the AWD. Further, the percent of power lost through the driveline is going to be higher than a RWD car.

So in the end, yes AWD will make it quicker off the line but slower over all.

[Basic_man]

Ugly? WTF! It's a hot car !

[viroman]

Mega HOT CARRRrrr

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by PremiumPassJon

i was just at the dealer up in montreal yesterday about this car.... delivery in canada is July 08...and there are several restrictions to buy i.e. 10k down to reserve (non-refundable, must sign a contract that you cant re-sell for at least a year etc.,.,)
My dealer showed me a road test which was done with one already on the road in Japan and it did 0-60 in 3.3 seconds ....now that is faster that the VIper, corvette and the 911 TURBO!!! the car is incredible!!!

Yeah, that's a pretty quick 0-60 for sure. AWD helps a lot. We don't have any actual runs from ZR1's yet, but they're expected to run somewhere around 3.3 seconds aswell, with some prediciting as low as 3.0 seconds although I doubt it or at least not on stock tires. The ZR1 is expected to have a top speed over around 200MPH too.

[SteveVVS]

Originally Posted by PremiumPassJon

i was just at the dealer up in montreal yesterday about this car.... delivery in canada is July 08...and there are several restrictions to buy i.e. 10k down to reserve (non-refundable, must sign a contract that you cant re-sell for at least a year etc.,.,)
My dealer showed me a road test which was done with one already on the road in Japan and it did 0-60 in 3.3 seconds ....now that is faster that the VIper, corvette and the 911 TURBO!!! the car is incredible!!!

I guess you refering to this article

Road Test: Full Test

Full Test: 2009 Nissan GT-R
The Numbers the World Has Been Waiting for

By Josh Jacquot, Senior Road Test Editor
Date posted: 12-18-2007

We know you want the numbers and we're not going to waste your time. Neither is Nissan. Its 2009 GT-R hits 60 mph in 3.3 seconds, quicker than the last Dodge Viper, Corvette Z06 and Porsche 911 Turbo we tested. Keep your foot pinned, and after another tap on the upshift paddle it will clear the quarter-mile in 11.6 seconds at more than 120 mph.

We know this because we've just returned from Japan where we tested a privately owned GT-R on an airstrip outside Tokyo. The car we tested was a Japanese-spec example with 1,500 break-in kilometers on its odometer. It's owned by Japanese journalist Jun Nishikawa and packs the same hardware the U.S. car will get: a 3.8-liter twin-turbo V6 that generates at least 473 horsepower and 434 pound-feet of torque. It had the same six-speed dual-clutch automated manual gearbox and the same adjustable dampers which, by now, you've read plenty about.

What you likely haven't heard about is this: launch control. Despite its bold 3.5-second 0-60-mph claim, Nissan has been keeping this little bit of technological wizardry a secret. Test a GT-R in the homeland, however, and the need for confidentiality is quickly overwhelmed by the need for speed.

Controlling the Launch
Activating the GT-R's launch control is a matter of configuring its transmission, dynamics control and damping adjustments properly. The transmission and damping switches must both be set to the R mode and the VDC must be switched off completely by holding the VDC-R button down for a few seconds. Then it's just a matter of pinning the brake with your left foot and wooding the throttle with your right, not unlike the technique used to produce a tire-shredding burnout in that '85 Camaro you drove in high school.

The result, however, is quite different. The computer holds the engine at 4,500 rpm and waits for you to lift your left foot off the brake pedal. When you do the GT-R produces the most crushing acceleration of virtually any production car in the world. Our test was conducted on a fairly low-grip surface that produced lots of rear wheelspin before the GT-R's sophisticated all-wheel-drive system engaged the front wheels and it thundered down the track. Its 3.3-second 0-60-mph run and 11.6 at 120.9 mph performance make the GT-R the quickest car we've ever tested.

It's even quicker than the Porsche 911 Turbo Tiptronic, but not by much. The German hits 60 mph in 3.4 seconds and blasts through the quarter-mile in 11.6 at 118.5 mph. Due to their lack of all-wheel drive, the Dodge Viper and Corvette Z06 are held back by traction limitations. Despite its 600-hp V10, the last Viper coupe we tested reached 60 mph in 3.7 seconds and finished the quarter-mile 11.8 at 125.3 mph. The Corvette Z06 isn't even close. Once impressive, its 4.1-second 0-60-mph run and 12-second quarter-mile at 121.8 mph are now well off the pace, which is why Chevy is creating the supercharged Corvette ZR1.

In an effort to preserve its drivetrain and relations with the owner, we only activated the launch control twice, but with a few more attempts to calm the violent wheelspin, the numbers would likely have been even better.

Leave the launch control off and the tranny in R mode, and the car is still sick quick. Sixty mph arrives in 4.0 seconds and the quarter-mile disappears in 12.3 seconds at 120.6 mph. All our testing was completed using manual shifting.

World-Class Braking
It requires 15-inch rotors, six-piston Brembo calipers and sticky Bridgestone Potenza RE070R rubber to bring a 3,836-pound GT-R to rest from 60 mph in only 104 feet. That's only 1 foot longer than the Porsche 911 Turbo equipped with the $8,800 ceramic composite brake package. It's also the same stopping distance as the last Dodge Viper we tested and 2 feet shorter than the Corvette Z06.

Experience tells us that the GT-R's conventional iron rotors aren't going to endure abuse as well as the 911 Turbo's ceramic brakes, but in a one-stop scenario like this, we have no reason to doubt them. With a solid, effective and intuitive pedal, braking confidence is high. Plus, we're guessing future versions of the GT-R will get brakes as advanced as the Porsche's.

Predictable, Accessible Handling
Our makeshift test facility at the AMI Airport near Tokyo didn't allow room for lateral acceleration testing on a skid pad. However, we did set up our standard slalom for comparison. Again, we were somewhat thwarted by the less-than-ideal surface, which had unavoidable painted lines crossing the course.

This served as an opportunity to witness the GT-R's striking at-the-limit composure. Blasting across the bumpy painted lines between cones, you get the sense that this is truly a special car. Its chassis remains composed and it goes exactly where it's pointed despite the ugly surface. There's none of the puckering that comes with driving a Vette or Viper this fast through a slalom. Nor is there the sense that the rear-mounted engine of a 911 Turbo is eventually going to find its way to the front.

The GT-R is versatile, with plenty of control latitude, and the difference between the limit of grip and the limit of control is huge. It's probably the most easily controlled car we've slid sideways between the cones. More importantly, its abilities are far more accessible for the average driver than those of its competition.

At 72.9 mph, it's quicker here than the Z06 and 911 Turbo but can't quite match the huge-tired Viper (74.2 mph). Still, it will be interesting to see how these numbers compare when all three cars are tested at the same place and time.

The Best Part
Perhaps more impressive than the GT-R's brain-cell-punishing acceleration or its stellar handling is its price. At just under $70,000 it's within reach of the upper middle-class enthusiast who insists on spending disproportionate amounts of his income on a car.

Plus, it will take an average driver and hurdle them into a realm of speed they couldn't buy with a 911 Turbo. It's world-class fast and relatively cheap. And that's a hard combination to beat.

I don’t think the new Z06 will blow its doors off. I believe it will be a rather close comparison. Getting more power is one thing, getting to the rear wheels is another. I predict the new Z06 will destroy its tires.

Let me also remind you this is the first GTR in years , all new platform , all "new" motor. So the next ones will be even better. what version of the Z06 are we at now ?

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by SteveVVS

I guess you refering to this article



I don’t think the new Z06 will blow its doors off. I believe it will be a rather close comparison. Getting more power is one thing, getting to the rear wheels is another. I predict the new Z06 will destroy its tires.

Not Z06, ZR1. They're not the same car.

The Z06 runs a 1/4 mile about .1 seconds slower at 8 mph faster. The ZR1 has 100HP+ more and is lighter than the Z06.