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Old 12-18-2007, 10:25 AM   #1
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I'm fed up with Windows lack of RAM!

Windows Vista without Aero on Core 2 Duo with 2GB RAM is working like peace of shit. Fuck it, I'm gonna buy 16GB of RAM tomorrow! I hate MicroShit!
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:26 AM   #2
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I use it with 2 gigs and i have no problems whatsoever. Right now with several things open im using 56%.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:28 AM   #3
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It's really fucked up it's working a way slower with SATA-II HDD with 16MB cache than XP with an old IDE drive.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:28 AM   #4
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I'm wishing that XP supported more than 2GB, I don't want to upgrade to Vista yet but I'm starting to feel the limits. I sometimes work on images that are hundreds of megapixels in size... thrash, thrash, thrash
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:34 AM   #5
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I'm wishing that XP supported more than 2GB, I don't want to upgrade to Vista yet but I'm starting to feel the limits. I sometimes work on images that are hundreds of megapixels in size... thrash, thrash, thrash
as far as i know you can get 4GB of RAM to work in Win XP...
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My laptop works great, Vista Home premium with 2 gigs of ram. I'm running the new cs3 mastersuite from Abode, no worries
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:36 AM   #7
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as far as i know you can get 4GB of RAM to work in Win XP...
I already discussed this with someone in another topic. Apparently more than 2 gigs of ram can actually slow Vista down.

Dont ask me why. I remember finding an explanation for it and posting it in that thread.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:39 AM   #8
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How about not using Vista because it fucking sucks?

Windows NT 4.0: 4 GB
Windows 2000 Professional: 4 GB
Windows 2000 Standard Server: 4 GB
Windows 2000 Advanced Server: 8GB
Windows 2000 Datacenter Server: 32GB
Windows XP Professional: 4 GB
Windows XP 64-bit: Supports up to 16 GB of RAM and 16 TB of virtual memory.
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RAM, Virtual Memory, Pagefile and all that stuff
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:40 AM   #9
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Check the specs, Vista 32 bit only supports 3.12GB total memory... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

You need to have 64bit Vista to move higher.... Or get a mac, which can do 16GB.
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Old 12-18-2007, 10:47 AM   #11
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as far as i know you can get 4GB of RAM to work in Win XP...
This is going on memory from a few months ago but I believe when they originally mapped out the maximum of 4GB they decided between a 50/50 split of user data and OS. With the /3GB switch at startup you can get XP to allocate 3GB for user data but this comes with some limitations and potential complications.

Even with this limitation there may still be some benefit in installing more than 2GB of RAM (which I have in this machine). Hmmm.
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Check the specs, Vista 32 bit only supports 3.12GB total memory... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

You need to have 64bit Vista to move higher.... Or get a mac, which can do 16GB.
It would be handy if Vista let you tweak that maximum.

32 bit memory holes suck... on one of my servers with 4GB of RAM there's a loss of about 768MB at boot. That loss can probably be reduced by lowering the allocated video RAM in the BIOS, but it's production server now.
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I have Windows Vista Business 32bit OS and 3 gigs of ram. I have had NO issues except that from time to time Internet Explorer ( read internet EXPLODER ) will fuck it up.
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Check the specs, Vista 32 bit only supports 3.12GB total memory... http://support.microsoft.com/kb/929605

You need to have 64bit Vista to move higher.... Or get a mac, which can do 16GB.
Thats interesting, because they sell them with 4 gigs and the 32bit system

At least Dell was.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:00 AM   #15
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I'm wishing that XP supported more than 2GB, I don't want to upgrade to Vista yet but I'm starting to feel the limits. I sometimes work on images that are hundreds of megapixels in size... thrash, thrash, thrash
XP is supposed to support 4gb, but at the most will only see 3gb(personal experience). To see the 3GB, you need to install 4gb, and enable the "3GB switch". Google it, it's easy to do.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:06 AM   #16
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XP is supposed to support 4gb, but at the most will only see 3gb(personal experience). To see the 3GB, you need to install 4gb, and enable the "3GB switch". Google it, it's easy to do.
it's the PAE switch (Physical Address Extension).

Vista runs great for me with 2GB on a standard lenovo box.
My new PC though will have 4 to start with ;-)
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i love getting out to a mac before having to go to vista ;x

i didnt have any problems when i asked for 4gb of ram at the apple store
took em 30 min and i was out the door
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:19 AM   #18
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:22 AM   #19
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i love getting out to a mac before having to go to vista ;x

i didnt have any problems when i asked for 4gb of ram at the apple store
took em 30 min and i was out the door
Next time take the memory home and try it yourself. You'll save about 29 minutes and 30 seconds

It's the easiest upgrade you could ever have to make. They made it very simple and easy to get to.
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Old 12-18-2007, 11:28 AM   #22
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problems with 2 gig ram? sounds strange.
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I use it with 2 gigs and i have no problems whatsoever. Right now with several things open im using 56%.
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I run Photoshop, multiple browsers, email, MSN is open 3 instances, ICQ, GTalk, etc ... LOADS of shit. No problems whatsoever

I love Vista!
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the ability to use more ram is actually a limitation of the 32bit application. Running 64bit Operating Systems, such as Vista x64 will allow you to use a LOT more ram.
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XP is supposed to support 4gb, but at the most will only see 3gb(personal experience). To see the 3GB, you need to install 4gb, and enable the "3GB switch". Google it, it's easy to do.
Nope, not so.
The 3GBE switch doesn't allow the useage of 4GB simulataneously, it simply changes the % of ram from user/system to give more to the user.
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And why exactly?
For me Vista sucks because it doesn't support my copy of Photoshop, any of my 3 different video editing packages that I use, one audio editor, doesn't support two of my external hard drives, and no drivers are available for Vista or ever will be, and my good laser printer is also not supported. Keep in mind I only tried Vista for 3 days before I re-installed XP again, there might have been more things that wouldn't have worked - but I didn't get that far. And yes I know I could go and spend thousands of dollars to get a newer copy of Photoshop and other other programs (those that have newer versions, which some of them don't).

That combined with overall slower response, and more crashes than I was used to with XP means that it sucks (for me at least)

Some people seem to be able to use Vista without problems, all the best to them I'm sure MS will get it right on the next OS or issue a service pack that will fix most of the issues.
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the ability to use more ram is actually a limitation of the 32bit application. Running 64bit Operating Systems, such as Vista x64 will allow you to use a LOT more ram.
Nah, it's a limit of Windows. Linux has been supporting 4GG of RAM on 32bit archs. for ages.

2^32 == 4294967296 == 4GB
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For me Vista sucks because it doesn't support my copy of Photoshop, any of my 3 different video editing packages that I use, one audio editor, doesn't support two of my external hard drives, and no drivers are available for Vista or ever will be, and my good laser printer is also not supported. Keep in mind I only tried Vista for 3 days before I re-installed XP again, there might have been more things that wouldn't have worked - but I didn't get that far. And yes I know I could go and spend thousands of dollars to get a newer copy of Photoshop and other other programs (those that have newer versions, which some of them don't).

That combined with overall slower response, and more crashes than I was used to with XP means that it sucks (for me at least)

Some people seem to be able to use Vista without problems, all the best to them I'm sure MS will get it right on the next OS or issue a service pack that will fix most of the issues.

i'd be surprised none still work , what you can do( if you ever work on Vista) Is right click on the app you want to run , go properties , compatibilty , then selct WinXP and even select run as admin. Ive been running programs that were only win98 without a problem.
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I have 1.5 gb of ram and it works ok but not very good for what I want to do with my computer
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i'd be surprised none still work , what you can do( if you ever work on Vista) Is right click on the app you want to run , go properties , compatibilty , then selct WinXP and even select run as admin. Ive been running programs that were only win98 without a problem.
Thanks - that is really nice to know. I may want to run a Vista partition at least, and it would be nice to get things working in there if possible.
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In about 3 to 4 years this will all be moot.

Linux will have evolved so much that it will be as easy as Windows...
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