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Old 12-19-2007, 08:22 AM   #1
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God damn, the White House is on Fire.

Breaking news on msnbc right now.

The Eisenhower executive building anyway.
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Uh oh did us Canadians set it ablaze again??

For those confused by the comment, Google some history
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Well, across the street from the white house anyway
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That was the British. Not Canadians.
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Islamic students arrested on suspicion of White House fire:

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Uh oh did us Canadians set it ablaze again??

For those confused by the comment, Google some history
It was the British Navy/Army. Learn your history.

Canada was not a coutnry till 1867, the White House burning happened during the war of 1810.
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That was the British. Not Canadians.
The order was given by the British yes, the actual individual was a Canadian.
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The order was given by the British yes, the actual individual was a Canadian.
Sure it was. I forgot it was Joe Canadian who's all over the history books as burning the White House with a Molson in his hand.

Wrong. It was British Regular Naval Infantry.

A Canadian who burned it down during the war of 1812, before Canada was a country. Okay.
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It was the British Navy/Army. Learn your history.

Canada was not a coutnry till 1867, the White House burning happened during the war of 1810.
1812 actually
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1812 actually
Yah, typo.

Nonetheless, everything else is correct.

The USA, a fledgeling country stood up to the World Power British Empire, and brought them to a draw.
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The order was given by the British yes, the actual individual was a Canadian.
Canadian myth.

Here is the man who was in charge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cockburn

He was a British admiral who was born in London.
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Yah, typo.

Nonetheless, everything else is correct.

The USA, a fledgeling country stood up to the World Power British Empire, and brought them to a draw.
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Canadian myth.

Here is the man who was in charge.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cockburn

He was a British admiral who was born in London.
I love Canada, but it's small man syndrome when it comes to the USA is pretty sad.
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Yah, typo.

Nonetheless, everything else is correct.

The USA, a fledgeling country stood up to the World Power British Empire, and brought them to a draw.
Well, you were correct until that statement. Actually, Canada stood up to the US as they tried to cross over and take us over... more specifically, they wanted control of the great lakes for themselves. Canada had to hold it's ground while the British had their hands full with a little bastard named Napoleon.

When the British had defeat in hand, that's when they sent their ships to Washington to deliver some swift justice. The USA, a fledgeling country, had no need to stand up to them any longer as the job was done and they returned back to Britain.

The border was adjusted somewhat but remained intact otherwise.

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Well, you were correct until that statement. Actually, Canada stood up to the US as they tried to cross over and take us over... more specifically, they wanted control of the great lakes for themselves. Canada had to hold it's ground while the British had their hands full with a little bastard named Napoleon.
Let's really delve into this then. The burning of the White House was in direct response to the Burning of York a British Colony, which later became Toronto.

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The border was adjusted somewhat but remained intact otherwise.
Treaty of Ghent.

I guess those British really showed us, eh?
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Let's really delve into this then. The burning of the White House was in direct response to the Burning of York a British Colony, which later became Toronto.
Right. As I said, the US invaded Canada. Canada held off until Britain burned the White House. Where's the confusion?

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Treaty of Ghent.

I guess those British really showed us, eh?
Yes, the war was ended. Uhmm... is that not what I said?
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Uh oh did us Canadians set it ablaze again??
And this time were back to finish the job....
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A tragic fire on Wednesday destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush. Both of his books have been lost.

Presidential spokesperson Dana Perino said the president was devastated, as he had not finished coloring the second one.
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A tragic fire on Wednesday destroyed the personal library of President George W. Bush. Both of his books have been lost.

Presidential spokesperson Dana Perino said the president was devastated, as he had not finished coloring the second one.
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Right. As I said, the US invaded Canada. Canada held off until Britain burned the White House. Where's the confusion?



Yes, the war was ended. Uhmm... is that not what I said?
What's this? A Canadian who doesn't take credit for the burning of the White House, and who, {gasp} admits York was burned down first? I'm shocked.

The war ended, but not as quickly as you stated.
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you continue to miss the point that there were no such things as Canadians at the time. at that point you were still British, so the British held us back from stealing the great lakes from their area that later went on to become Canada. since it wasn't Canada yet, its residents couldn't have possibly been Canadians.

i know its really hard to grasp for you northern north dakotians, but its true.
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What's this? A Canadian who doesn't take credit for the burning of the White House, and who, {gasp} admits York was burned down first? I'm shocked.

The war ended, but not as quickly as you stated.
Wars are never ended quickly, but it was ended for the reason I stated.
What the US textbooks teach is that Britain attacked with the intention of taking over... when that simply isn't the case.
Britain responded to Canada's need for help. Britain's attack was in response to the US trying to take over a British colony and once the US stopped attacking, there was little need to continue further.

Yes, the whole ordeal sucked but it was the US that started it, Canada that held strong and Britain that ended it.
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Most of the first Canadians where British Immigrants....
None of which torched the white house.
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Are they teaching you that the Canadians burnt down the White House and not the British?
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you continue to miss the point that there were no such things as Canadians at the time. at that point you were still British, so the British held us back from stealing the great lakes from their area that later went on to become Canada. since it wasn't Canada yet, its residents couldn't have possibly been Canadians.

i know its really hard to grasp for you northern north dakotians, but its true.

ever heard of upper and lower Canada ????
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By Canadian I presume you mean someone that lived in the acreage that would someday be known as Canada, since it wasn't a country until 50 years later.
Even that is not true though. The fleet that landed in the capitol was ordered there from Spanish Waters. The admiral in charges was from LONDON.
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what does gods right hand man bush have to say?

you knwo cause he talks to god and all..lol
He talks to God and you talk to ET. Which one is better?
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It pissed me off to see all the news headlines online say OMG WHITE HOUSE ON FIRE, but its not the fucking white house. Talk about sensationalism.
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It wasn't an official country as yet, but all the regions north of a certain boundary were known as "Canada" even then. People living there (indians, French settlers, British settlers, metis etc) were referred to as Canadians, at least in all the history books I've read.

Many online references also back this up....

http://www.history.army.mil/books/amh/amh-06.htm
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To Great Britain the War of I8I2 was simply a burdensome adjunct of its greater struggle against Napoleonic France. To the Canadians it was clearly a case of naked American aggression. But to the Americans it was neither simple nor clear. The United States entered the war with confused objectives and divided loyalties and made peace without settling any of the issues that had induced the nation to go to war.
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The British were instrumental in the burning of the whitehouse, yes, but the war itself was with CANADA. Do some reading in this chronology for example: http://www.galafilm.com/1812/e/chronology/index.html and it becomes clear that the northern almost 2/3's of N. America was already known and referred to as CANADA, the people that lived there CANADIANS.

But it's all splitting hairs anyway. Who cares, the fact is if the US had of invaded Australia back then and got repelled there would have also been a significant British involvement there as well. But history books would have listed the Aussies as being the ones that beat back the invaders.

Quit quibbling and just admit we whipped your asses. Even then your population outweighed ours by 10 to 1.

Ancient history though. Today I wish you all peace, joy and happiness in the holiday season. :D
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The British were instrumental in the burning of the whitehouse, yes, but the war itself was with CANADA.
Those are the land battles but you could also do a timeline of the naval battles and they are American vs British ships.

The US didn't have the ability to strike at the British mainland (much less the Canadian colony).
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you continue to miss the point that there were no such things as Canadians at the time. at that point you were still British, so the British held us back from stealing the great lakes from their area that later went on to become Canada. since it wasn't Canada yet, its residents couldn't have possibly been Canadians.

i know its really hard to grasp for you northern north dakotians, but its true.
Did I not say that Canada was a British colony? That doesn't mean that they weren't Canadians living in that colony. It was known EVEN THEN as Canada. That makes the people within it Canadians.

Canada, as a colony, did not exactly have Britain's military at it's disposal. It had to fend for itself as it's own separate colony, and wait for Britain's Navy for help.

Whether or not Canada was an independent nation is a moot point. As a separate colony, the people within were both British AND Canadian... as the land was known as Canada.

In the end though, it came down to the US trying to invade and failing.
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Try me.
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I think everyone's missing the real culprits and wasting time talking about Canada. The fire is right next door to the Vice President's office. Anyone wondering how many embarrassing documents were probably left in that room accidentally? Probably all of them.
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Old 12-19-2007, 01:04 PM   #44
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And if you Yanks ever decide to try it again, mark my words, the FIRST of you I'm going to shoot is Ann Coulter.

Try me.
Are you trying to get us to attack Canada? Why the incentive?
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Dude, until now I thought you were just an amusing pain in the ass. I even found you funny on some occasions. But this, it tops the charts, this makes you a bonafied docuhebag. Congrats
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Somewhere in the US I'm sure.
It's definately on the same planet.
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Are you trying to get us to attack Canada? Why the incentive?
Most of us want your gas prices here. I'd personally love the new highways you'd build us.

But leave our lotteries alone, we have no desire to pay taxes on winnings.
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