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sherbert · 09-25-2002, 08:25 AM

I always suspected that those NastyDollars fuckers were up to something... shaving, poor tracking, other shit. Right about now I'd compare ND to ARS is terms of sales ratios (through my own click tracking). OxCash isn't as good as when BangBus was first released but it's still pretty strong.

Averaging more sales in a day sending traffic to AP than Nasty Dollars ever did. And I'm not worrying about shaving like before. Forget ND. Became overpromoted and turned to complete shit... sales went down sending traffic over 9 months. And what was that bullshit in the ND terms about them not paying if such-and-such? Fuck that.

Maybe AP will become heavily promoted... I mean, it already is... however the wider choice of sites is much better for webmasters than having only a few main sites to promote. AP will grow... but personally, I believe it'll never turn to shit like NastyDollars has.

Good program there... even so, I'm not going to lower myself to putting a ref code in my sig. (Webmasters below the bread line: take note)...

nxixnxo · 09-25-2002, 08:48 AM

no offense to Ap, but nasty dollars is doing great for me... I am doing 1 in 250 w/ them.....

If you are having problems with their stats or think something gis work. email ernesto...he is a stand up guy... and will look into whatever you need looking into...

There new tranny site looks like it would sign the dead...

if there is anyone that hasnt signed up with them yet... here is my refcode

http://www.nastydollars.com/?wm_refer=showboys

yuval · 09-25-2002, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sherbert
I always suspected that those NastyDollars fuckers were up to something... shaving, poor tracking, other shit. Right about now I'd compare ND to ARS is terms of sales ratios (through my own click tracking). OxCash isn't as good as when BangBus was first released but it's still pretty strong.

Averaging more sales in a day sending traffic to AP than Nasty Dollars ever did. And I'm not worrying about shaving like before. Forget ND. Became overpromoted and turned to complete shit... sales went down sending traffic over 9 months. And what was that bullshit in the ND terms about them not paying if such-and-such? Fuck that.

Maybe AP will become heavily promoted... I mean, it already is... however the wider choice of sites is much better for webmasters than having only a few main sites to promote. AP will grow... but personally, I believe it'll never turn to shit like NastyDollars has.

Good program there... even so, I'm not going to lower myself to putting a ref code in my sig. (Webmasters below the bread line: take note)...

where and what does it say in nd's terms about not paying .... i would reely like to know.. thanks

Nysus · 09-25-2002, 09:02 AM

Could be because those other programs are oversaturated? Or maybe you picked a niche that you are better at converting.

Cheers,
Matt

Shooter · 09-25-2002, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by yuval

where and what does it say in nd's terms about not paying .... i would reely like to know.. thanks

If you send a sign-up and it cancels in the first, I think, 12 hours, you don't get credit.

Fletch XXX · 09-25-2002, 09:06 AM

I like how when people cant sell shit they claim shaving.

I am doing great with ND have always done great with ND, and actually think youre pretty lame for claiming "they up to something" regarding shaving just because you have to switch.

While I wouldnt argue Aplatinum does well, bashing ND for "shaving" isnt cool with no proof or cause.

I am under 1:70 with them. And have been that way for over 6 months.

angelsofporn · 09-25-2002, 09:09 AM

I do well with both of them...no complaints here.

J.R. · 09-25-2002, 09:18 AM

Alot of my webmasters promote Nasty Dollars.. I get alot
of complaints about their shaving tactics..

yes, I agree about this thread.

angelsofporn · 09-25-2002, 09:41 AM

Ok I'll switch all my codes over to want boobs right now...give me 10 mins

Dax · 09-25-2002, 10:04 AM

I do well with ND. Most of the times Im surprised as to how good my ratios are...

But don't forget... It is not wether u are 1:50 with a sponsor or 1:400 with another. Is the bottom line, if the 1:50 sponsor makes you $200 a month and the 1:400 makes you $2000 a month, what do u think matters ratios or bucks?!?!?!?

Rawz · 09-25-2002, 11:23 AM

I have no probs with ND , but if ND was shaving im assuming they would shave on Oxcash also ? They are the same people but as i said they convert fine for me, no complaints .

Mr.Fiction · 09-25-2002, 11:32 AM

Nasty Dollars rocks.

sherbert · 09-25-2002, 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
I do well with ND. Most of the times Im surprised as to how good my ratios are...

But don't forget... It is not wether u are 1:50 with a sponsor or 1:400 with another. Is the bottom line, if the 1:50 sponsor makes you $200 a month and the 1:400 makes you $2000 a month, what do u think matters ratios or bucks?!?!?!?

It is true - however, I'm talking about actual sales, not sales ratios.

As for judging ratios, I use my own click tracking software. AP performs way better.

ND have always been suspect by many webmasters, even some of those that are keeping their mouths shut right now as they are reading this. Just something that I, personally, can't put my finger on.

But each to their own.

Lexxx · 09-25-2002, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sherbert
I always suspected that those NastyDollars fuckers were up to something... shaving, poor tracking, other shit. Right about now I'd compare ND to ARS is terms of sales ratios (through my own click tracking). OxCash isn't as good as when BangBus was first released but it's still pretty strong.

OxCash and NastyDollars is the same company... so you trust in one, have the faith in the other.

AP is a solid program, but you gotta choose the sites carefully... some of them have weird designs and some have very good ones...

nocostporn · 09-25-2002, 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
I do well with ND. Most of the times Im surprised as to how good my ratios are...

But don't forget... It is not wether u are 1:50 with a sponsor or 1:400 with another. Is the bottom line, if the 1:50 sponsor makes you $200 a month and the 1:400 makes you $2000 a month, what do u think matters ratios or bucks?!?!?!?

maybe the 1:400 should be converting better so I can make more than $2k

J.R. · 09-25-2002, 04:22 PM

What I find funny, is why make a quick buck now when
you can make 3 to 4 times the $30 with a good converting/retaining program.

There are lots of good converting & retaining programs besides
mine.

I have over 900 members that have been active members
for over 9 months..no joke!

A few of our webmasters are making over 3k a month
in recurring alone, a few of them are members on this board.

Anyways.. my

Mutt · 09-25-2002, 04:38 PM

This keeps getting repeated and repeated that OxCash and NastyDollars are the same company. Not true. RKMedia owns NastyDollars and OxIdeas owns OxCash.

Only they know the exact relationship the two companies have but they definitely are NOT the same company.

Unfed · 09-25-2002, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Lexxx

OxCash and NastyDollars is the same company... so you trust in one, have the faith in the other.

actually, they aren't...

Theo · 09-25-2002, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sherbert

It is true - however, I'm talking about actual sales, not sales ratios.

As for judging ratios, I use my own click tracking software. AP performs way better.

ND have always been suspect by many webmasters, even some of those that are keeping their mouths shut right now as they are reading this. Just something that I, personally, can't put my finger on.

But each to their own.

how can you compare a new program with another that you can see advertised EVERYWHERE?

DrewKole · 09-25-2002, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unfed

actually, they aren't...

Huh? I coulda sworn....

Oxcash = Nastydollars = Sublimedirectory?

I know the latter is true...

Look at the whois, Says OxIdeas vs. Rk, but... they're in the same building...

FATPad · 09-25-2002, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

how can you compare a new program with another that you can see advertised EVERYWHERE?

I was kinda wondering that, too.

Lexxx · 09-25-2002, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
This keeps getting repeated and repeated that OxCash and NastyDollars are the same company. Not true. RKMedia owns NastyDollars and OxIdeas owns OxCash.

Only they know the exact relationship the two companies have but they definitely are NOT the same company.

Names of business entities could be different... but they are in the same room for god's sake.

Rep · 09-25-2002, 05:23 PM

i've been having a problem with good steady streams of traffic not converting under ND recently I'll be the first to admit. But all together nothing is doing excellent right now for me I'm not sure how the rest of the world is. I still have a very nice conversion ratio but it isnt what it used to be..

..what ever happened to that "shaving test" that was being arranged? I'm interested in the results.

Quoth the Raven · 09-25-2002, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
This keeps getting repeated and repeated that OxCash and NastyDollars are the same company. Not true. RKMedia owns NastyDollars and OxIdeas owns OxCash.

Only they know the exact relationship the two companies have but they definitely are NOT the same company.

Why then both RKMedia and OxIdeas have 7 letters. Why do they also have the same address? Something smell fishy here?

Pornwolf · 09-25-2002, 05:54 PM

7 Letters? Same address? The owners wore the same color shirt 7 days ago?

Hmm... sounds like a numerology thing. Creepy.

katiepants · 09-25-2002, 06:00 PM

Speaking of NastyDollars..

Is it just me or have they been down for several hours?

Dax · 09-25-2002, 09:56 PM

They are not the same company!

Ox is owned by one guy RK is own by another... Two diff people...

Mutt · 09-25-2002, 10:24 PM

i've spoken to the guys who produce their content. the person told me the two companies are NOT one and the same.

I used to think they were the same because they do share a lot in common and they might even be located in the same office building, same floor, same offices.

who knows? it could be one of those complicated business setups where there are investors in each company but there's an umbrella company that manages the two seperate companies. It could be anything really and nobody here is going to know from hearsay information.

i wanted to help them out but I didn't know who to contact, they ignored my emails.
The operation is technically a mess, the content is great but that's meaningless when shit doesn't work and servers are slower than a 14 year old still in the third grade.

Maybe things have improved since then. I'm not promoting them now.

Sly_RJ · 09-25-2002, 10:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
They are not the same company!

Ox is owned by one guy RK is own by another... Two diff people...

Thank you. These people don't seem to understand that two different companies can have a joint partner(s). That joint partner is most likely the reason both companies are sitting at the same address. I think this topic has been debated more than whether or not ND shaves...

FATPad · 09-26-2002, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ

Thank you. These people don't seem to understand that two different companies can have a joint partner(s). That joint partner is most likely the reason both companies are sitting at the same address. I think this topic has been debated more than whether or not ND shaves...

IT'S REAL!

Mr.Fiction · 09-26-2002, 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FATPad

IT'S REAL!

Bang Bus? Of course it is. Bum Fights is fake, though.

ldinternet · 09-26-2002, 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel

how can you compare a new program with another that you can see advertised EVERYWHERE?

Uh... quite easily. The new program sells way better than the overpromoted program. At least for some people.

End of comparison.

Chris R · 09-26-2002, 02:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dax
They are not the same company!

Ox is owned by one guy RK is own by another... Two diff people...

They might not be the same COMPANY, but the are owned by the same people.

They both have the same address.

RK NETMEDIA, INC.

has two directors

OX IDEAS

has three directors - THE SAME TWO as RK with one additional person.

That makes them pretty similar in my book

Mutt · 09-26-2002, 02:57 AM

huh? they're private companies, where are you getting this information about who the directors of the companies are?

can you search that kind of information on Florida corporations?

that sux if anybody can get that kind of information.

Chris R · 09-26-2002, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
huh? they're private companies, where are you getting this information about who the directors of the companies are?

can you search that kind of information on Florida corporations?

that sux if anybody can get that kind of information.

Almost every corporation has some records that are public. It took me less than two minutes to find. Not every state has public records available by internet, but you can usually get some info over the phone during business hours.

GFED · 09-26-2002, 03:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris R

They might not be the same COMPANY, but the are owned by the same people.

They both have the same address.

RK NETMEDIA, INC.

has two directors

OX IDEAS

has three directors - THE SAME TWO as RK with one additional person.

That makes them pretty similar in my book

Yes, you're correct, I checked too...

GFED · 09-26-2002, 03:40 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mutt
huh? they're private companies, where are you getting this information about who the directors of the companies are?

can you search that kind of information on Florida corporations?

that sux if anybody can get that kind of information.

It's public information, and you should be able to lookup corporations in any state... here is the page for Florida... http://sunbiz.org/

09-25-2002, 08:25 AM	#1
sherbert Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: KAGAWA, Japan Posts: 470	Adult Platinum sells way better than Nasty Dollars I always suspected that those NastyDollars fuckers were up to something... shaving, poor tracking, other shit. Right about now I'd compare ND to ARS is terms of sales ratios (through my own click tracking). OxCash isn't as good as when BangBus was first released but it's still pretty strong. Averaging more sales in a day sending traffic to AP than Nasty Dollars ever did. And I'm not worrying about shaving like before. Forget ND. Became overpromoted and turned to complete shit... sales went down sending traffic over 9 months. And what was that bullshit in the ND terms about them not paying if such-and-such? Fuck that. Maybe AP will become heavily promoted... I mean, it already is... however the wider choice of sites is much better for webmasters than having only a few main sites to promote. AP will grow... but personally, I believe it'll never turn to shit like NastyDollars has. Good program there... even so, I'm not going to lower myself to putting a ref code in my sig. (Webmasters below the bread line: take note)... __________________ sdfsdfsdvgf Last edited by sherbert; 09-25-2002 at 08:30 AM..

09-25-2002, 08:48 AM	#2
nxixnxo Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: miami,fl,usa Posts: 238	no offense to Ap, but nasty dollars is doing great for me... I am doing 1 in 250 w/ them..... If you are having problems with their stats or think something gis work. email ernesto...he is a stand up guy... and will look into whatever you need looking into... There new tranny site looks like it would sign the dead... if there is anyone that hasnt signed up with them yet... here is my refcode http://www.nastydollars.com/?wm_refer=showboys __________________ im out suckas

09-25-2002, 09:06 AM	#6
Fletch XXX GFY HALL OF FAME DAMMIT!!! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: that 504 Posts: 60,840	I like how when people cant sell shit they claim shaving. I am doing great with ND have always done great with ND, and actually think youre pretty lame for claiming "they up to something" regarding shaving just because you have to switch. While I wouldnt argue Aplatinum does well, bashing ND for "shaving" isnt cool with no proof or cause. I am under 1:70 with them. And have been that way for over 6 months. __________________ Want an Android App for your tube, membership, or free site? Need banners or promo material? Hit us up (ICQ Fletch: 148841377) or email me fletchxxx at gmail.com - recent work - About me

09-25-2002, 04:38 PM	#17
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	This keeps getting repeated and repeated that OxCash and NastyDollars are the same company. Not true. RKMedia owns NastyDollars and OxIdeas owns OxCash. Only they know the exact relationship the two companies have but they definitely are NOT the same company. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-25-2002, 05:54 PM	#25
Pornwolf Drunk and Unruly Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hollywood Posts: 22,712	7 Letters? Same address? The owners wore the same color shirt 7 days ago? Hmm... sounds like a numerology thing. Creepy. __________________ I've trusted my sites to them for over a decade... Webair, bitches.

09-25-2002, 09:02 AM	#4
Nysus Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 7,817	Could be because those other programs are oversaturated? Or maybe you picked a niche that you are better at converting. Cheers, Matt

09-25-2002, 09:09 AM	#7
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	I do well with both of them...no complaints here.

09-25-2002, 09:18 AM	#8
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	Alot of my webmasters promote Nasty Dollars.. I get alot of complaints about their shaving tactics.. yes, I agree about this thread.

09-25-2002, 09:41 AM	#9
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	Ok I'll switch all my codes over to want boobs right now...give me 10 mins

09-25-2002, 10:04 AM	#10
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	I do well with ND. Most of the times Im surprised as to how good my ratios are... But don't forget... It is not wether u are 1:50 with a sponsor or 1:400 with another. Is the bottom line, if the 1:50 sponsor makes you $200 a month and the 1:400 makes you $2000 a month, what do u think matters ratios or bucks?!?!?!?

09-25-2002, 11:23 AM	#11
Rawz Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: New Hampshire Posts: 288	I have no probs with ND , but if ND was shaving im assuming they would shave on Oxcash also ? They are the same people but as i said they convert fine for me, no complaints .

09-25-2002, 11:32 AM	#12
Mr.Fiction Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Free Speech Land Posts: 9,484	Nasty Dollars rocks.

09-25-2002, 04:22 PM	#16
J.R. WantBoobs.com Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Calif & Washington Posts: 3,472	What I find funny, is why make a quick buck now when you can make 3 to 4 times the $30 with a good converting/retaining program. There are lots of good converting & retaining programs besides mine. I have over 900 members that have been active members for over 9 months..no joke! A few of our webmasters are making over 3k a month in recurring alone, a few of them are members on this board. Anyways.. my

09-25-2002, 05:23 PM	#23
Rep Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 991	i've been having a problem with good steady streams of traffic not converting under ND recently I'll be the first to admit. But all together nothing is doing excellent right now for me I'm not sure how the rest of the world is. I still have a very nice conversion ratio but it isnt what it used to be.. ..what ever happened to that "shaving test" that was being arranged? I'm interested in the results.

09-25-2002, 06:00 PM	#26
katiepants Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 214	Speaking of NastyDollars.. Is it just me or have they been down for several hours?

09-25-2002, 09:56 PM	#27
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	They are not the same company! Ox is owned by one guy RK is own by another... Two diff people...

09-25-2002, 10:24 PM	#28
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	i've spoken to the guys who produce their content. the person told me the two companies are NOT one and the same. I used to think they were the same because they do share a lot in common and they might even be located in the same office building, same floor, same offices. who knows? it could be one of those complicated business setups where there are investors in each company but there's an umbrella company that manages the two seperate companies. It could be anything really and nobody here is going to know from hearsay information. i wanted to help them out but I didn't know who to contact, they ignored my emails. The operation is technically a mess, the content is great but that's meaningless when shit doesn't work and servers are slower than a 14 year old still in the third grade. Maybe things have improved since then. I'm not promoting them now. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!

09-26-2002, 02:57 AM	#34
Mutt Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 34,431	huh? they're private companies, where are you getting this information about who the directors of the companies are? can you search that kind of information on Florida corporations? that sux if anybody can get that kind of information. __________________ I moved my sites to Vacares Hosting. I've saved money, my hair is thicker, lost some weight too! Thanks Sly!