Mac or PC?

[JoeS]

Do you use a Mac or PC and why?

If you're a PC user would you consider switching to a Mac?

Is Vista basically the same thing as a Mac now that both systems use an Intel chipset?

What do you think?

[Violetta]

I use pc, and I will not switch to mac. Not in the near future at least. Ubuntu maby. But right now I am using all these good free programs, that I know for sure I wont find on a mac.

[Gianna_CECash]

I am in the market for a new puter... I was thinking about MAC

[tranza]

PC over here... I've never used a Mac actually!!

[JoeS]

I'm looking at getting either the iMac 20" or the 24". Someone told me Vista is basically the same as the Mac OS. But so far Im pretty impressed with what I see of Leopard the new Mac OS.

[BobG]

Originally Posted by Gianna_CECash

I am in the market for a new puter... I was thinking about MAC

sooner the better. You'll never go back

[JoeS]

Originally Posted by BobG

sooner the better. You'll never go back

Hi Bob! Which Mac do you use? What type of work do you use it for?

[D]

PC user here...

My last laptop purchase might had been a MacBook Pro had I not realized that I could buy a machine with the same specs for about 1/3 - 2/3 the price... and not be forced to buy all of my hardware and software upgrades through the same company after doing so.

So I opted for a HP instead, and am very happy that I did.

[CarolCox]

We use both PC's and Mac's. I personally use a 20" iMac, and we have a new loaded iMac 24 just for video editing. In our home office, we have 3 PC's running XP, 2000 and Vista; 2 Mac's, one with Tiger and one with Leopard; and one Linux box.

Carol xoxoxo

[SifuE]

Mac! The Jew's run Mac so there are never problems with them.. Stick with the MAC

[u-Bob]

pc all the way.
mac = overpriced pc hardware in a white box, imho.

[pornask]

Originally Posted by u-Bob

pc all the way.
mac = overpriced pc hardware in a white box, imho.

plus I wouldn't want to be one of them obnoxious fanboys

[Karupted Charles]

Originally Posted by D

PC user here...

My last laptop purchase might had been a MacBook Pro had I not realized that I could buy a machine with the same specs for about 1/3 - 2/3 the price... and not be forced to buy all of my hardware and software upgrades through the same company after doing so.

So I opted for a HP instead, and am very happy that I did.

Common missperception. There are plenty of places you can buy upgrades from that meet apple standards for less money. Also a good way to save 500 or more is to buy a mac with 512 ram and upgrade using newegg to 4 gigs for only 190 or so.

I have a MacBook pro. Ran redhat,ubuntu,vista and XP and I will never use anything but mac again for a desktop or laptop.

FYI there is lots of free programs and you can run anything that is gpl for linux as most has ben ported for Mac.

[Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I am a PC user who recently (1 year ago) got a Mac, I am now in the process of transfering all my computers to Mac.

[BobG]

Originally Posted by JoeS

Hi Bob! Which Mac do you use? What type of work do you use it for?

QuadCore mac pro (dual-dualcore 3.0 xeons) and a macbook pro. the quad I use for final cut pro video editing and encoding and i do all my dreamweaver and photoshop stuff on it too. The laptop I bring to shoots, on the road, in bed...

[just a punk]

Actually all new Mac's are PC's. So the question should be: "Mac OS X or Windows?"

[WebairGerard]

I really like leopard. i still use XP as well but prefer my mac.

[JoeS]

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

Actually all new Mac's are PC's. So the question should be: "Mac OS X or Windows?"

Yeah thats what I was told. But theres got to be more that makes a Mac unique than the OS?

Anyway a iMac 20" for $1200 is pretty affordable and Leopard seems very cool inded. I have yet to try Vista. Heard a lot of negativity about it though.

[Meeper]

Any company that has to have its marketing campaign make fun of the competitor doesn't have my vote! Welcome to the third grade - population Apple. PC for me!

[JoeS]

Originally Posted by EvilAngelNick

Any company that has to sell its product by making fun of the competitor doesn't have my vote! Welcome to the third grade - population Apple. PC for me!

Hi Nick, EvilAngel rocks!

Yeah I'm with ya! Commercials are retarded. But they just have a 3% or so market share so they're desparate. I found so many Mac people I talked to were MacFanatics who talked down their nose to me like anyone who wasn't in their little club was sub human. That more than other things kept me from even looking at buying a Mac. But I have to look at what serves my needs and ignore peoples childish behavior because there are plenty of people and copanies out there with lots of growing up to do. So if the Mac OS and solid support fills a need then it's worth looking at I figure.

[KILL_FRENZY]

I use pc now but as soon as possible I will switch to mac

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by JoeS

But theres got to be more that makes a Mac unique than the OS?

the fact that they put everything in a nice white (or silverish) box and charge way too much money for it.

[Gerco]

Written about this many times already on this forum. I was a devout PC user until 2 years ago when I bought my first MAC, a 17 Macbook Pro. Maxed out in ram. feature for feature it was actually cheaper than the only 2 laptops I could find that sorta equaled it, one from Dell and One from Sony. Even at the cheaper price, It offered more... the DVD burner was twice as fast... it had Usb2 firewire 400 AND 800. gigabit networking etc... Since I use Lacie Terabyte drives, having the Firewire 800 was a big deal to me.

I went into it with the mindset that if I needed to I could also install windows on the box and dual boot, or use a program like paralles to run windows directly inside of OS X. So no worry there.

Then Sprint came out with the express card for high speed net access. Which made it even better...

After releasing that I didn't need to run antivirus on the net anymore... I was even more impressed.

It took about a week to start feeling comfortable with OS X and really start to play with it hard. I loved it so much I bought a 20' Imac and loaded it up with 3 gigs of ram for my wife, And just recently bought a new Mac Mini that I use to control my entire entertainment system, DVD collection, Music Everything. And it's all controlled via my Iphone. I'm doing things on the Macs that I thought where only pipe dreams just a year ago.

I have CS3, Aperture, Dream weaver, Final Cut Pro, All running all the time, no worries... No crashes. All I can say is this... my remaining 3 PC's have not even been turned on in the last month.

[Meeper]

Originally Posted by JoeS

Hi Nick, EvilAngel rocks!

Yeah I'm with ya! Commercials are retarded. But they just have a 3% or so market share so they're desparate. I found so many Mac people I talked to were MacFanatics who talked down their nose to me like anyone who wasn't in their little club was sub human. That more than other things kept me from even looking at buying a Mac. But I have to look at what serves my needs and ignore peoples childish behavior because there are plenty of people and copanies out there with lots of growing up to do. So if the Mac OS and solid support fills a need then it's worth looking at I figure.

Thanks!

Yea I would say in terms of Video and Music Production, Mac is the way to go. Anything else, I find it a waste of money to purchase one. Just my

[bronco67]

To add to the discussion, don't let anyone tell you a Mac is needed for computer graphics. I've been doing some really nice graphics and animation on a PC for over 12 years.

Most of the visual effects and ad work you see is done on a PC. If you're ever told otherwise by Mac fanboys it's because they live in a small, small world where nothing else exists but their precious Macs.

I'd also like to add that macs are just fucking gay.

[JP-pornshooter]

two years ago i got a small ibook/g3.
one thing i really hate in macs is the file structures, files are not easily found as you can on a pc. mostly for that reason i use pc in my office. but the ibook is great to take along on shoots, trips or just to the coffee house for online use, generally speaking it is too slow for photo editing.

[JoeS]

Ok well I'm glad to see everyone agrees! lol

[Evil E]

Desktop is a PC but i'll get a macbook for coding/nix desktop

[Godsmack]

Mac...yes, apples are overpriced.. in a way...
The OS is so much better than anything i am happy to pay more..
Also the apple hardware has a much higher build quality than any other brand i have bought in the past..

OSX rocks.. i only use windows for statsremote..

[aico]

Vista is nothing compared to OS X

Vista also runs faster on a Mac than a PC.

[RandomNinja]

I prefer Mac, but I use both.

[DirtyDanza]

once you gentiles learn something about something you will switch over to mac so you can join our club...

vista is not the same as osx who ever sold you that can sell you land on the moon if you buy it...

Macs are not PC's either... that sounds like something a PC user says to not feel so behind the times with things....


look I got a mac book pro for a restart it takes me 14 secs from the time I hit restart to the time I am back started... from a cold machine and me hitting power it takes me 17 secs to get on and rolling... PC's won't even close photoshop in under 45 secs....


so just think of the time...

I got a buddy that just got a new PC

it's an HP Intel® Core™2 Quad processor Q6600 with 4 complete execution cores, Intel® Advanced Digital Media Boost, 3GB DDR2 SDRAM


now my macbook has only 2 gig of ram right now as well cause I refuse to put non apple ram in my machine... there is a reason macs work and PC's don't...

anyways

for a test I loaded 1000 pics on my machine and 1000 on his the same pics... created an action in photoshop with 17 layers and did a nice little batch on the 1000 pics... the mac finished 3 min faster than the pc did... now thats just something simple... so lets hear you die hard PC guys explain that to me I am dying to hear your excuses for it?

look I switched over few months back.. took me about 2 days to get used to osx... I will never go back to a pc... they are way to slow.... nothing works on em... you know it's bad when Microsoft offers downgrades.. and also when a Microsoft employee told me at ces that vista is the worst they have had yet....

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter

two years ago i got a small ibook/g3.
one thing i really hate in macs is the file structures, files are not easily found as you can on a pc. mostly for that reason i use pc in my office. but the ibook is great to take along on shoots, trips or just to the coffee house for online use, generally speaking it is too slow for photo editing.

how the hell do you file your files? in pig laten backwords?

I came from PC I can find shit on anybody's mac faster than I can find files I know the location of on a pc... use finder... as far as structure go's treat your documents folder as your c: drive on pc easy as that

[GrouchyAdmin]

Both. Neither. It's a computer. Who gives a shit, if you get your work done?

[smax]

Originally Posted by RandomNinja

I prefer Mac, but I use both.

I don't see how, hardware is hardware. There are no special cpu/ram/motherboard etc components on a mac versus what you can get in a windows based pc.

[JasonB]

Just bought my wife an IMac & I think it's only a matter of time before I get a Mac. Vista is crap & I'm sick of it. Just from playing around with it for a few days, OSX is making vista look silly.

[aico]

Originally Posted by smax

I don't see how, hardware is hardware. There are no special cpu/ram/motherboard etc components on a mac versus what you can get in a windows based pc.

So then why does Vista run faster on a Mac than a PC, if they are exactly the same?

http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,13...s/article.html

Note the name of the magazine...

http://movies.apple.com/movies/us/ap...nt_480x360.mov

[GatorB]

PC if you're looking for a computer; Mac if your looking for a religion.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by JasonB

Just bought my wife an IMac & I think it's only a matter of time before I get a Mac. Vista is crap & I'm sick of it. Just from playing around with it for a few days, OSX is making vista look silly.

For the record Leopard is running into problems just like Vista did. Apple is NOT immune to anything.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

once you gentiles learn something about something you will switch over to mac so you can join our club...

vista is not the same as osx who ever sold you that can sell you land on the moon if you buy it...

Macs are not PC's either... that sounds like something a PC user says to not feel so behind the times with things....

It's this assholish holier-than-thou attitide that Mac lovers have is one major reason why I'll NEVER switch.

Macheads must be really insecure to have to always want to convert people to Mac. Who fucking cares? You have a Mac you like it, good for fucking you. I'm fine with a PC and I do not wish to join your cult. Now fuck off.

[aico]

Originally Posted by GatorB

For the record Leopard is running into problems just like Vista did. Apple is NOT immune to anything.

For the record, you've never owned a Mac, so you are talking from opinion.
My Leopard runs just fine, not sure what problems you are referring to. Haven't heard of anyone ordering Macs and asking for the older OS version to be put on instead of the newer. Kind of like they are doing with Vista.

[aico]

Originally Posted by GatorB

It's this assholish holier-than-thou attitide that Mac lovers have is one major reason why I'll NEVER switch.

Macheads must be really insecure to have to always want to convert people to Mac. Who fucking cares? You have a Mac you like it, good for fucking you. I'm fine with a PC and I do not wish to join your cult. Now fuck off.

Actually I think insecure would be more like what you seem to be. You feel threatened and must attack someone because of the computer they use.

[VeriSexy]

Have always used PCs and I never found a reason to switch

[JohnnyJames]

I have both, and was a sworn mac user for the better part of 2 decades.

I still love macs.

They are computers for idiots, essentially. Very hard to do any serious damage to a mac, and very hard to misplace a file. They were perfect for me, until I started to need programs that were simply not available on the platform.

I love macs because you don't have to know shit to use them. PC's require a bit more thought, but have all the software.

If mac takes a larger share of the market and has all the programs I need/want, I will happily switch back. Until then, I am stuck wondering WTF things like

mom.implementation did not load in sector 34.7890 r as anticipated. Would you like to restart or join the legions of other people in line on the phone with Seattle?

mean.

Go Steve Jobs.

Until then, I am stick in a strange land.

[NoWhErE]

I was HARDCORE PC for the longest time.

Then I got my Macbook Pro and finally understood why all the other Mac users sort of laugh at the PC users.... they have a good reason to!


Anyone who has tried both systems will say that the Mac is much easier to use and the better buy.

Mac hands down for Video editing.

PC hands down for gaming.

Everything else in between goes to MAC if you're willing to buy real software and not pirate your stuff.

[fatfoo]

pppppppccccccc

[brandonstills]

These types of post usually lead to religion wars so I'm just going to give my experiences. I used to be a die hard PC user and thought the Mac commercials were a bunch of shit by ignorant people. When I heard about Mac and the dual booting and switching to Intel I realized that I could get a high-end system and be able to run Windows if I didn't like Mac. I didn't like certain things at first but then really came to enjoy it. Keep in mind I'm a keyboard advocate. I HATE using the mouse when there should be a better keyboard method. Turns out if you spend a little time learning power user things you can actually use the keyboard for a lot more things than you can on the PC. If you are a keyboard power user like me definitely check out Quicksilver for the Mac. It is a god send. Other advantages include the fact that it is unix. As a web developer it is a much better environment to run unix when you are developing unix.

Photography workflow I think is better no the PC. I haven't found anything to reliably rotate JPGs out of the camera to the correct orientation. Not a problem with the Mac but when sharing with PC they always show up with the wrong orientation. I really liked Capture One Pro on the PC. Especially the keyboard shortcuts. On the Mac you have to use the mouse as far as I can tell for converting RAWS. My photography workflow is much slower on the Mac. Maybe with more research I will be able to make it go faster but as it stands right now I miss using PC for that.

So there are pluses and minuses. Depends on what you are doing. The main advantage is that you can dual boot it so for about the same price (for high end systems) you can always run Windows if you don't like it.

[Kevin Marx]

PC user for years.. switched to MAC.. no interest in going back full time... that being said.. I have a Dell laptop that sits astride the MAC.. I use it for my Quicken and to proof my webwork on IE/Windows.. and that's about it.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by aico

Actually I think insecure would be more like what you seem to be. You feel threatened and must attack someone because of the computer they use.

I think you have that backwards.

[GatorB]

Originally Posted by aico

For the record, you've never owned a Mac, so you are talking from opinion.
My Leopard runs just fine, not sure what problems you are referring to. Haven't heard of anyone ordering Macs and asking for the older OS version to be put on instead of the newer. Kind of like they are doing with Vista.

No I'm not.

It FACT. Try actually taking off the rose colored glasses

http://blogs.zdnet.com/topic/Leopard.html