Sure. Lots of cultural artifacts spread and are influenced by those of their surrounding and sometimes faraway (world) neighbors.

The point is that not a single person's life here has not been richly enhanced because of American culture. It's music, it's invention, it's technology, it's expressions, it's idioms, it's food, and it's movies. This is amazing because it has not had the huge headstart that Europe has time-wise.

Culture n.
"The totality of socially transmitted behavior patterns, arts, beliefs, institutions, and all other products of human work and thought."

What has been the American contribution to human work and thought in this century?

It is a curious thing. Nearly everyone here is the grandchild or great-grandchild of immigrants. I am.

So a Hungarian comes up with the idea of the Atomic Bomb but it is developed here in the US. What made that possible? Why is it that so many things have been invented in America in the past century? What is it about it's culture .. it's societal values that made this possible?

America DOES have it's own culture. Think of America circa 1950. Leather jackets, motorcycles, and rock music. Were those cultural artifacts or not?

America is HUGE and POPULOUS. It is widely diverse from sea to shining sea and all across it's beautiful fruited plane. Here in Miami there is DEFINITELY a Miami culture. There is also an American South-West culture (Santa Fe), and then there's Hollywood.

No, it is not one uniform culture. America is extremely culturally diverse from location to location - so in that sense there is not a uniform culture. Come visit me here in Miami though and tell me whether South Beach "has culture" - an interesting medley of Latin and American influences. It's sights, smells, tastes. It's an amazing place. There are many more like it here. If you can't enjoy it, then don't. I've visited many European cities and liked them all. Europe has it's own cultures and traditions and they vary from town to town and country to country also.

I don't see any reason to say there is culture in Europe but not America. That makes no sense.

"just as well america let in all those smart european migrants to invent all the complex machines, systems, algorithms, you name it..."

YES! That WAS and IS the idea! Exactly.

what was it they wanted to get away from in the first place?

maybe my history is bad

can someone please tell me immigration stories about people who were desperately fleeing European success, prosperity and peace?

LOL !!!

I guess Italian design clothing is not a European product.

Giorgio Armani - Italy.
Versace - Italy.

Maybe you are not familair with these brands, did your employer lower your salary Ron?

;-)

Pizza and Hamburgers revolutionized at the same place...
:winkwink:

Thank you Charly - I was eager to rip his cretinous fuckin head off - last time I looked back at the history of engineering and invention, the British (mainly Scottish to give them their dues) are pretty much at the forefront.
Where the Brits have been good at the invention, the Italians have been masters of design (unfortunately mech/elec design never included reliabilty).
The Japs rule in the world of mass production/cost/reliabilty.
America is probably best at consumption - energy, food, you name it and the Yanks will devour it. :321GFY

the TV and the concept and idea for TV was simultaneously thought up by two people, one was Philo Farnsworth, the second was Vladimir Zworykin

they both lived in the US.

Philo Farnsworth, while living in California was granted the Patent and was the one who recieved the royalties on the invention.

Yep :thumbsup ... i like fucking rocks ...

who says europeans are "weak pussys" ?

go to your local library and look up "WWII" :winkwink:

Here we go again, crying foreigners.
Good for a laugh. LOL

:waaaaahh

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How about you do that?
You have no idea what you are talking about.

Hey ControlFreak are you french?
You must be one of those smelly cheese eating bastards

there are no libraries in France apparently.
:(

Hello little one, you need some attention from big old rich European Controlthy?

Okay that was your 1 minute worth of attention time.

I am sure you have never been to a library so it would be impossible for you to indentify one even if you stood right in front of it.

I agree. When I was there, some smiles scared me LOL


Pleasurepays
Dont forget the brave french men during the war and their brave Vichy nazi government. Real heroes. LOL

I didnt know you were old. That's something, old cheese eating french prick. LOL
I wanna be just like you. You are my whining idol.

Don't wind me up :feels-hot http://www.digitalcentury.com/encyclo/update/baird.html

I know what I am talking about. If the US had not put 16 million people in uniform, had not the industrial might to supply the allies and had not the economy to sustain the war, had not spent the forty years or so supplying the funds and large military forces around the world and had not provided a nuclear umbrella over its NATO allies and parts of Asia during the cold war, all of Europe would be speaking German or Russian.

i guess it all comes down to who was able to prove it to the patent office and who collected royalties on the invention.

it certainly was an American that got the patent and held it until it lapsed, at which point RCA renewed it.

:feels-hot :thumbsup :feels-hot

oh no... you had to do it!

you had to play the "Hitler Card"

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

The card was played because ControlThy asked for it to be played, when he thought he was making a fool of booker. It is not only the Hitler card but the ex Soviet card also.

Sorry if someone has already posted this but I can't be bothered to read 2 pages of bickering.

But Colin, this shows how much you know. TV was invented about 5 miles east of where I am sitting right now. John Logie Baird invented the TV and broadcast the first images right here in Hastings on the south coast of England in 1925. It isn't much but it is one of the only claims to fame this town has!

I'm not getting into any debate about which is better, USA or Europe, but I thought you should have your facts straight.

EDIT: Oops, sorry Kat, I guess I should have checked the last few posts before getting on my high horse. Incidentally, that's the same website I checked my dates with before posting!

And to Pleasurepays - You must remember that the US patent office is not the end all, be all of proof of invention.

neither is simply naming your town after an anonymous person and making false claims as to his achievements.
:(

if you guys need me, i will be in my hometown called MessageboardVille - named after the great Ferd Piddlepoo, who invented pixels then had the first idea of selling naked girls on the Internet. As we all know, after he began selling images of naked girls, he decided he needed a messageboard to unite people across the globe to argue about missinformation and British propoganda
:winkwink:

Ferd Piddlepoo

:1orglaugh

Meni told me

Hmmm, John Logie Baird - name of inventor, Hastings - name of a town on the south coast of England where Mr Baird first broadcast TV images to a TV. Did I miss something? Sorry that Kat and I proved you to not be omniscient but sometimes facts are facts. I won't continue to argue this small point of history. There is no point arguing with those people who KNOW that they are right all the time no matter what factual information is put under their noses.

BTW, I'm an American and like I said before, I won't argue the Euro/USA debate. Both places have their good and bad points. I like living here the same as I liked growing up and living in the States. I didn't know who invented the TV either until I moved here and read up on the subject. Same as many Americans (and probably many others across the globe) I naturally assumed that it was invented in the US as that is where it was most widely used and popularised.

I'm done here now. Hope you all have a lovely day. I've got to go find out whether my unborn baby is a boy or a girl!!:thumbsup

Sorry kiddies, I was specifically referring to ELECTRONIC television. You know, the kind you actually use in your home today. Must be a gap in my presentation. Calling Baird's invention modern television is like calling an abacus a computer. Don't ya know EVERYTHING in the past century was invented in America?

Damn, now I have to issue a correction since there is so much confusion.

"What could be bigger? Oh, yeah .. modern television! Born right here in the good old United States of Invention, my friend. Anyone that watches electronic television is partaking in American culture in the same way that anyone in America that eats Spaghetti is partaking in Italian culture."

So here ya go ...

"German, Paul Nipkow developed a rotating-disc technology to transmit pictures over wire in 1884 called the Nipkow disk. "

"John Logie Baird is remembered as being an inventor of mechanical television."

"Philo T. Farnsworth .. invented modern television."

So if you use a television from the 1890's, it is German.
If you have to wind your television up, it is Scottish/British.
If you use a television made in Japan, it is American.

Now, let's talk America. The first image transmitted by Farnsworth was a dollar sign. Gotta love this place. We Americans have the idea down pat. Build a huge consumer/producing society, make lots of money, design better weapons than anyone else, and then taunt everyone on messageboards. It's in the Constitution.

Next thing you know, you're gonna tell me America didn't invent soccer which of course we did. It was invented in 1842 by Samuel Slocum and some friends in Braintree, Mass. They were bored because television hadn't been invented yet. So anyway, they were playing rugby one day and decided to alter some of the rules. After a few weeks of tweaking, they finally decided on calling their new game "foot ball". In 1848, Slocum (sounds funny, doesn't it?) moved to Britain to get a little closer to some of the action because there were a series of revolutions in Europe at the time and he was interested in a bloodbath. You have to remember he was American and we are particularly interested in violence and blood, much like the Romans were. Slocum taught some kids at a local University his version of the game and it quickly caught on becaming a staple of the European diet to be consumed both before and after any large meal. 150 years later Europeans are mad at Americans for calling their game soccer. Soccer, for the record, is just an abbreviation of Association invented by lazy Cambridge students who were, to be honest too busy debating on the various merits of British vs. Irish beers to waste precious breaths on that pentasyllabic word.

Let`s all be friends...

I vote this the worst thread ever.
http://www.lamer.net/buddychrist-sucks.jpg

TGF,

Better to be worst than lost in the marshmallowy middle.

I found your brother's website funny!
http://www.co.jyu.fi/~np/hate/USAHate.html

especially the "World According to America" map.

Actually beer was invented in Egypt. They call it Stella there and it sucks, but they invented it. So that would be Africa.

DG

what about Soccer/football?
wasnt that invented in America too?
i think it was.

thats more wide-spread than anything else.

we are weak pathetic pussies living with the support of americans

:(