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		 wouldn't surprise me... but I wonder how do you know it? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 Pornbb - if it's not bogus info, they're about a 1/2 block from LAX 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	Registrant Organization:WhoisGuard Registrant Street1:8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #110 - Registrant Street2:732 Registrant Street3: Registrant City:Westchester Registrant State/Province:CA Registrant Postal Code:90045 Registrant Country:US Registrant Phone:+1.6613102107 they're part of the katz.to network, whoever the fuck that is http://katz.cd/dmca.htm http://katz.to/buttons.htm  | 
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		 I don't think we should blame Rapidshare, torrents, forums and tube sites with stolen content. They have the opportunity to do this and they will do it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
	The only way to solve this is paysite owners start protecting their content - with the latest DRM technology, and other ways. In the coming future there will be smarter paysite owners that produce exclusive and original content for which the customer is willing to pay for. And if the surfer couldn't find it for free then he would join the paysite. And eventually paysites, that are producing original and exclusive content and that are able to protect their content, will be able to generate more sales and will attract more affiliates. Evolution.  | 
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		 For example - before being an adult webmaster, I used to find passwords for paysites in google. But I never managed to find a password for givemepink, and I just loved that Sophie Moon and Sandra Shine videos. So till today givemepink is the only paysite I have ever payed for. But today you are able to find anything for free, even those two episodes, sad. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 various articles. i think avn ran an article about it at some point 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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 mark pierce was correct in his statements about moving to live every paysite could benefit from that solo girls sites and mega sites should add chatting with the models going after them when they exist in countries were their actions are not illegal is a losing battle because the publicity from the attack drive more visitors to their sites.  | 
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		 I see it as a "adapt or die" strategy not as "running away rather than fighting". If you have the resourses by all means fight it, the thieves are all over the globe living in many countries with many different laws, how exactly are you going to stop them? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 It doesn't matter if they turn a profit or not as long as they aren't structured as a nonprofit organization. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 General question for you.  Is the major complaint that content just gets posted on rapidshare/torrents?  Or is it also as big of a problem that passwords get shared on forums and spikes your bandwidth bills? 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I wouldn't do this personally but I have witnessed first-hand a "Reflected" DDOS attack against my server and it has to be one of the biggest pains in the ass to stop because all the packets are spoofed. Even my host threw their hands up in the air for about a week and we were helpless to stop it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 The problem is two-fold. The people use the stolen passwords on the sites then rip them to rapidshare/torrents. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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 The goal being to require a person to manually rip your site file by file. That would slow the problem, but then again, it only takes 1 person to rip a site to get it on the free file systems. Can you make it even more painful for them though? E.G. would you lose users if you required people to view some of the photos via a flash plug-in or something? If they had flash installed, the user experience should be exactly the same as before. However with the plugin, you can drop in some basic encryption and completely prevent the standard right click save-as method for saving photos. Just some thoughts, the kneejerk reaction is to say "DRM everything" but being a realist, that only works for a minority of people. Are there some other tricks to be applied to protect your content that are transparent to legitimate users, and a strong deterrent against site rippers. 
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		 One solution is to beat them at their own game.  Flood the sites with large files that are just garbage.  They will eventually get frustrated with it and give up.  Not sure how much work it would be and they can counter by having a "report a bad link" type of option but it's something I don't really see people doing. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
	
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		 I have not seen to much of a change, must be our awesome content.. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 I agree.  When these guys say to "adapt", what exactly do they mean?  The only thing you can do is build more traffic... which takes t i m e. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
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		 situation is only worse every day and soon thats will be real problem. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
	
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 "dream kelly" http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&btnG =Search 72,500 results "dream kelly" + rapidshare http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...re&btnG=Search 151,000 results  | 
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 Yea, he's in fairtale land. DreamKelly and Silvercash content are all OVER the torrents. Let them go on thinking their too big or good to be hurt by it... karma is a bitch. Of course, I don't wish anything bad on them, I just wish all the big companies with that pollyanna attitude would wake the fuck up.  | 
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		 Let's see what is coming out of the Adult Content Producer's Group that was initiated by AIR3k at Shane's World when they give their presentation in January or February. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
	
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		 some people are still making $$. work a little harder 
		
	
		
		
		
		
			
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		 We're still making money, that's not the point. It's a decreasing amount of money and these are real issues with a direct impact on the bottom line for almost everyone in the industry. If you or anyone else fails to see that, I wish you luck... you're gonna need it. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
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	giving up is never the answer there is still right and wrong, and just because you can't stop all the wrongdoing is not a reason to give up completely imagine if napster hadn't been shut down years ago, it was getting so huge and they stopped it nowadays, there are itunes cards for sale in stores I go to everyday, and people are buying them.... if the world had given up and just let napster do its thing, there would be no itunes music cards for sale... the public were reminded that downloading copyrighted stuff was wrong, and many looked toward legal alternatives it is when total complacence toward copyright theft is allowed that things get really bad.... the future is more enforcement and new legal solutions in countries like Sweden that are currently letting pirates have asylum to set up their parasitic websites  | 
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 I do realize it, but it isn't the same as when napster was growing exponentially every day... if that hadn't have been stopped things would be different. If napster hadn't been taken care of and the other publicity along the way, I doubt that itunes music card sales would have even got off the ground. Limewire is far from what napster was turning into at its peak. You are right though, it would probably take many more high profile cases of individuals being sued or prosecuted to really cause a shifting of attitudes.  | 
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