See sig. As more money is pooled, the effort grows larger and not only does your content become protected, other campaigns are coordinated by taking down forums. I am actively taking down some smaller boards right now.

thonglife is right

the priorities should be on the forums, the torrent sites are bad, but the forums are the ones that will destroy the business as we know it

it is actually surprising how much of an effect a small amount of effort actually can have

(as far as the torrents go, a strategy to go after and prosecute some of the users might go a long way in scaring their base away, all downloaders are also seeders in the process, so the risk of downloading stolen content should be the possibility of having to face legal troubles that would be public record)

I agree with you, Sweden needs to come on board with the rest of the civilized world in protecting ownership of created works

The sad thing though, is one of the biggest theftsite forum boards (pornbb) is hosted right in the U.S.A. (California I believe)

and to answer the 'dating and cams' thing, there is no way that this is a long term solution for an entire industry.. as the customer base gets jaded I doubt the dating market will bring in the money to support all the hungry adult webmasters, and cams are good but really are still just a niche in comparison to the much greater surfer hunger for video

There is an active investigation at IC3.gov regarding them: ID: I0711121850091871. I asked for studios and paysites to search for their content and send me their information to add to the filing. I received two emails.. sadly it's quite appherent there is no interest.‏

actually yes , sales in the porn industry are on the decline for the first year ever.

It is depressing for affiliates to hear of apathy from the sponsors.

As part of doing business, some miniscule percentage of their efforts (money or time) should be devoted to protection of their properties.

On that note, I must give some props out to FLESHLIGHT for dropping Forumophilia as an affiliate. As we are well aware, there are a number of sponsors who turn a blind eye to this sort of traffic, however, FLESHLIGHT stepped up. .:thumbsup:thumbsup

i took my site down - hated doing it but until there is a solution i am offline but still shooting

i noticed it today researching some sologirl stuff i had planned on promoting. peac hyfor um has top 5 position on several sologirl names right now in google. i kept seeing it over and over again, full sets and vids easily downloaded. we definitely need to petition google to do something about banning sites proven to promote the piracy of copyrighted content...

Unless some government support issues us all heavier legal support, we're just going to go on feeling the hurt. perhaps we need the support of an organization with the power of icann. someone who can step in and just say "ok, you're done" and simply pull the plug on them. take their domain and drop them out on their asses...

eventually piracy will run a whole lot of people into the ground if something isn't done. its gotta be hurting program ownersoverall, but battling spyware, pirates, and everything else is making it next to impossible to make it as an affiliate if you aren't already established....

That just gave me an idea. Am I reading this right? This would apply to pornbb.
Section 1.2 Top-Level Domain. The Top-Level Domain to which this Agreement applies is .org ("TLD").
http://www.icann.org/tlds/agreements...mt-08dec06.htm
They are violating both of these by collecting revenues from adbrite and obviously involved in illegal file distribution. Isn't this solid ground for petitioning ICANN to drop them?

Well... it's a stretch but I'd like to see how they respond.
"Your message has been sent to ICANN."
Thx Bjorn:thumbsup

they have enough for a lawyer , any good lawyer will argue that they arent actually turning a "profit", but still a good way to start

I'm not a lawyer, but it looks to me like you are reading it incorrectly. That section refers to a contract between ICANN and the registry corporation, not the domain end user.

Perhaps the requirement of .org domains to be used for non-profit sites is somewhere else in their guidelines.

wouldn't surprise me... but I wonder how do you know it?

Pornbb - if it's not bogus info, they're about a 1/2 block from LAX


Registrant Organization:WhoisGuard
Registrant Street1:8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #110 -
Registrant Street2:732
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Westchester
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:90045
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.6613102107

they're part of the katz.to network, whoever the fuck that is
http://katz.cd/dmca.htm

http://katz.to/buttons.htm

I don't think we should blame Rapidshare, torrents, forums and tube sites with stolen content. They have the opportunity to do this and they will do it.

The only way to solve this is paysite owners start protecting their content - with the latest DRM technology, and other ways. In the coming future there will be smarter paysite owners that produce exclusive and original content for which the customer is willing to pay for. And if the surfer couldn't find it for free then he would join the paysite. And eventually paysites, that are producing original and exclusive content and that are able to protect their content, will be able to generate more sales and will attract more affiliates.

Evolution.

For example - before being an adult webmaster, I used to find passwords for paysites in google. But I never managed to find a password for givemepink, and I just loved that Sophie Moon and Sandra Shine videos. So till today givemepink is the only paysite I have ever payed for. But today you are able to find anything for free, even those two episodes, sad.

Bomb their servers.

various articles. i think avn ran an article about it at some point

i suggest you watch piracy is good ? on youtube

mark pierce was correct in his statements about moving to live

every paysite could benefit from that
solo girls sites and mega sites should add chatting with the models

going after them when they exist in countries were their actions are not illegal is a losing battle because the publicity from the attack drive more visitors to their sites.

I see it as a "adapt or die" strategy not as "running away rather than fighting". If you have the resourses by all means fight it, the thieves are all over the globe living in many countries with many different laws, how exactly are you going to stop them?

Actually, neither are.

:2 cents:

It doesn't matter if they turn a profit or not as long as they aren't structured as a nonprofit organization.

General question for you. Is the major complaint that content just gets posted on rapidshare/torrents? Or is it also as big of a problem that passwords get shared on forums and spikes your bandwidth bills?

I wouldn't do this personally but I have witnessed first-hand a "Reflected" DDOS attack against my server and it has to be one of the biggest pains in the ass to stop because all the packets are spoofed. Even my host threw their hands up in the air for about a week and we were helpless to stop it.

The problem is two-fold. The people use the stolen passwords on the sites then rip them to rapidshare/torrents.

Well one possibility is to identify the leading site ripping software. Then add a layer of obsufucation on your site that effectively breaks the ripper. Obviously an <a href> tag is going to get grabbed real fast, but javascript layers between your pages and downloads are notoriously difficult to automatically rip.

The goal being to require a person to manually rip your site file by file. That would slow the problem, but then again, it only takes 1 person to rip a site to get it on the free file systems.

Can you make it even more painful for them though? E.G. would you lose users if you required people to view some of the photos via a flash plug-in or something? If they had flash installed, the user experience should be exactly the same as before. However with the plugin, you can drop in some basic encryption and completely prevent the standard right click save-as method for saving photos.

Just some thoughts, the kneejerk reaction is to say "DRM everything" but being a realist, that only works for a minority of people. Are there some other tricks to be applied to protect your content that are transparent to legitimate users, and a strong deterrent against site rippers.

There's a significant amount of money involved here...

Find out who the owner is, put a bullet in his head... Problem solved :2 cents:

One solution is to beat them at their own game. Flood the sites with large files that are just garbage. They will eventually get frustrated with it and give up. Not sure how much work it would be and they can counter by having a "report a bad link" type of option but it's something I don't really see people doing.

I have not seen to much of a change, must be our awesome content..

I agree. When these guys say to "adapt", what exactly do they mean? The only thing you can do is build more traffic... which takes t i m e.

situation is only worse every day and soon thats will be real problem.
solution - working laws. but who cares about porn industry :)

Are you sure about that?
"dream kelly"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&btnG =Search
72,500 results
"dream kelly" + rapidshare
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...re&btnG=Search
151,000 results

Someone has to make a drm technology that is truly worth a shit, they would become very rich.

Yea, he's in fairtale land. DreamKelly and Silvercash content are all OVER the torrents. Let them go on thinking their too big or good to be hurt by it... karma is a bitch.

Of course, I don't wish anything bad on them, I just wish all the big companies with that pollyanna attitude would wake the fuck up.

do what tv has done

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LxCoCTc3T5Q

Let's see what is coming out of the Adult Content Producer's Group that was initiated by AIR3k at Shane's World when they give their presentation in January or February.

Agreed, they should either do it themselves as a continuous effort or have someone take care of it for them.

Sue the mofos.