Well... it's a stretch but I'd like to see how they respond.
"Your message has been sent to ICANN."
Thx Bjorn:thumbsup

they have enough for a lawyer , any good lawyer will argue that they arent actually turning a "profit", but still a good way to start

I'm not a lawyer, but it looks to me like you are reading it incorrectly. That section refers to a contract between ICANN and the registry corporation, not the domain end user.

Perhaps the requirement of .org domains to be used for non-profit sites is somewhere else in their guidelines.

wouldn't surprise me... but I wonder how do you know it?

Pornbb - if it's not bogus info, they're about a 1/2 block from LAX


Registrant Organization:WhoisGuard
Registrant Street1:8939 S. Sepulveda Blvd. #110 -
Registrant Street2:732
Registrant Street3:
Registrant City:Westchester
Registrant State/Province:CA
Registrant Postal Code:90045
Registrant Country:US
Registrant Phone:+1.6613102107

they're part of the katz.to network, whoever the fuck that is
http://katz.cd/dmca.htm

http://katz.to/buttons.htm

I don't think we should blame Rapidshare, torrents, forums and tube sites with stolen content. They have the opportunity to do this and they will do it.

The only way to solve this is paysite owners start protecting their content - with the latest DRM technology, and other ways. In the coming future there will be smarter paysite owners that produce exclusive and original content for which the customer is willing to pay for. And if the surfer couldn't find it for free then he would join the paysite. And eventually paysites, that are producing original and exclusive content and that are able to protect their content, will be able to generate more sales and will attract more affiliates.

Evolution.

For example - before being an adult webmaster, I used to find passwords for paysites in google. But I never managed to find a password for givemepink, and I just loved that Sophie Moon and Sandra Shine videos. So till today givemepink is the only paysite I have ever payed for. But today you are able to find anything for free, even those two episodes, sad.

Bomb their servers.

various articles. i think avn ran an article about it at some point

i suggest you watch piracy is good ? on youtube

mark pierce was correct in his statements about moving to live

every paysite could benefit from that
solo girls sites and mega sites should add chatting with the models

going after them when they exist in countries were their actions are not illegal is a losing battle because the publicity from the attack drive more visitors to their sites.

I see it as a "adapt or die" strategy not as "running away rather than fighting". If you have the resourses by all means fight it, the thieves are all over the globe living in many countries with many different laws, how exactly are you going to stop them?

Actually, neither are.

:2 cents:

It doesn't matter if they turn a profit or not as long as they aren't structured as a nonprofit organization.

General question for you. Is the major complaint that content just gets posted on rapidshare/torrents? Or is it also as big of a problem that passwords get shared on forums and spikes your bandwidth bills?

I wouldn't do this personally but I have witnessed first-hand a "Reflected" DDOS attack against my server and it has to be one of the biggest pains in the ass to stop because all the packets are spoofed. Even my host threw their hands up in the air for about a week and we were helpless to stop it.

The problem is two-fold. The people use the stolen passwords on the sites then rip them to rapidshare/torrents.

Well one possibility is to identify the leading site ripping software. Then add a layer of obsufucation on your site that effectively breaks the ripper. Obviously an <a href> tag is going to get grabbed real fast, but javascript layers between your pages and downloads are notoriously difficult to automatically rip.

The goal being to require a person to manually rip your site file by file. That would slow the problem, but then again, it only takes 1 person to rip a site to get it on the free file systems.

Can you make it even more painful for them though? E.G. would you lose users if you required people to view some of the photos via a flash plug-in or something? If they had flash installed, the user experience should be exactly the same as before. However with the plugin, you can drop in some basic encryption and completely prevent the standard right click save-as method for saving photos.

Just some thoughts, the kneejerk reaction is to say "DRM everything" but being a realist, that only works for a minority of people. Are there some other tricks to be applied to protect your content that are transparent to legitimate users, and a strong deterrent against site rippers.

There's a significant amount of money involved here...

Find out who the owner is, put a bullet in his head... Problem solved :2 cents:

One solution is to beat them at their own game. Flood the sites with large files that are just garbage. They will eventually get frustrated with it and give up. Not sure how much work it would be and they can counter by having a "report a bad link" type of option but it's something I don't really see people doing.

I have not seen to much of a change, must be our awesome content..

I agree. When these guys say to "adapt", what exactly do they mean? The only thing you can do is build more traffic... which takes t i m e.

situation is only worse every day and soon thats will be real problem.
solution - working laws. but who cares about porn industry :)

Are you sure about that?
"dream kelly"
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...&btnG =Search
72,500 results
"dream kelly" + rapidshare
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&s...re&btnG=Search
151,000 results

Someone has to make a drm technology that is truly worth a shit, they would become very rich.

Yea, he's in fairtale land. DreamKelly and Silvercash content are all OVER the torrents. Let them go on thinking their too big or good to be hurt by it... karma is a bitch.

Of course, I don't wish anything bad on them, I just wish all the big companies with that pollyanna attitude would wake the fuck up.

do what tv has done

https://youtube.com/watch?v=LxCoCTc3T5Q

Let's see what is coming out of the Adult Content Producer's Group that was initiated by AIR3k at Shane's World when they give their presentation in January or February.

Agreed, they should either do it themselves as a continuous effort or have someone take care of it for them.

Sue the mofos.

somebody just might someday - only thing is, it'll take YEARS to work through the courts.

I think I am going to live on a sailboat.

some people are still making $$. work a little harder

Are you just another jerking surfer? Thanks for your "wise" advices about protecting then.

We're still making money, that's not the point. It's a decreasing amount of money and these are real issues with a direct impact on the bottom line for almost everyone in the industry. If you or anyone else fails to see that, I wish you luck... you're gonna need it.


or maybe you'll just work harder.

No doubt it sucks but thats why people shouldnt depend on websites to carry them their whole lives. Porn tube sites dont help things either but what can you do? things like that were bound to happen one day...if something like rapidshare is hurting sales now, imagine what things will be like in the years to come. along with complaining, people should get jobs. How many of us have downloaded music/movies for years and dont give a fuck if record labels/artists are losing $
Is it suddenly a problem when someone does it back?

WRONG

giving up is never the answer

there is still right and wrong, and just because you can't stop all the wrongdoing is not a reason to give up completely

imagine if napster hadn't been shut down years ago, it was getting so huge and they stopped it

nowadays, there are itunes cards for sale in stores I go to everyday, and people are buying them.... if the world had given up and just let napster do its thing, there would be no itunes music cards for sale... the public were reminded that downloading copyrighted stuff was wrong, and many looked toward legal alternatives

it is when total complacence toward copyright theft is allowed that things get really bad.... the future is more enforcement and new legal solutions in countries like Sweden that are currently letting pirates have asylum to set up their parasitic websites

Thanks Bjorn:thumbsup We are working very hard at the moment (with great success) getting tons and tons of rapidshare links and other filehost links killed on forums.
Anyone that is interested having there content removed from forums see sig,

Do you realise how many p2p clients there are out there? The only people who pay for music now are pretty much the same people that would of paid in the past. Everyone else uses limewire, etc, they are exactly the same as napster was.

I do realize it, but it isn't the same as when napster was growing exponentially every day... if that hadn't have been stopped things would be different. If napster hadn't been taken care of and the other publicity along the way, I doubt that itunes music card sales would have even got off the ground. Limewire is far from what napster was turning into at its peak.

You are right though, it would probably take many more high profile cases of individuals being sued or prosecuted to really cause a shifting of attitudes.

Pornguy you are right

I don't think P2P itself is the worst threat. It's the fact that it's no longer people networking together to share what they downloaded, it's companies building their business on distributing copyrighted content by exploiting legal loopholes or hiding in countries that don't enforce copyrights.

So, instead of trying to fight rapidshare, torrent sites and tubes themselves or trying to go for the surfers using them, it may be a good idea to go for the sponsors paying them...

How about we all cry and post how bad tube or warez sites are, like few topics daily of this shit?