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Old 01-02-2008, 03:47 PM   #1
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Fuck You CECash and Your "Never Pay For Porn Again" Ad Campaign

As bas as tube sites are, advertising on tube sites using this kind of marketing is even worse. Way to get the message across loud and clear that porn shouldn't be paid for, because nobody in this industry is working at all or anything.. We obviously sell a product that should be completely free, since it's completely free to produce!

Another case of a big company fucking us all at once to make a few bucks...

I saw this ad on RedTube.com on the side, going to the site FreeXXXPasses.com
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I think you do not understand business models.
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Are they in this business to make them money or you? They have to adjust their business model so you can make some money as well?
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Pft. I understand why they do it, but I think it's stepping over the line.
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Why not hit them up, get a review on what they are doing and promote it?
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I have hotlinking blocked on my server, peeeeses me off.. Lets see if this works... there's a flash ad in between them



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I have hotlinking blocked on my server, peeeeses me off.. Lets see if this works

If they are not doing anything illegal then who are you to say they suck?
They can do whatever they want. They don't have to worry about you and your money.
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Why not hit them up, get a review on what they are doing and promote it?
Gee, because I'm in the business of selling porn, not giving it away, free, for life?
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lol.... omg advertising free porn.. those bastards.
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I have hotlinking blocked on my server, peeeeses me off.. Lets see if this works... there's a flash ad in between them


I don't see anything wrong with it, don't they do free credit card joins? Seems like that would be alright to me.
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There is nothing legally wrong with it, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that it's pretty fucking A typical of this industry that instead of protecting ourselves and make a stand that porn content is a valuable commodity, we are instead racing out to market that porn is worthless, has no value, and shouldn't be paid for.

If you guys think that's a great message to be sending your surfers, and a fantastic concept you hadn't thought of, then consider yourself informed and go start promoting. Send some to Zango while you're at it.
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Socks...if you would like some info on our "free site" campaigns...please just let me know....it is common knowledge we are in the "4free" arena and our email sites are exactly that.....free.....we also have this model available for affiliates to promote at $1.50 per email....(more if you can send volume!!!)

There is a lot more going on that we will unveil as time permits....tube sights are not the ani-porn....most people are just not thinking outside the box...

You have to adapt in this biz...internet moves at light speed(sorry steve..please dont send C&D)and if you are not in place to adapt you will be left behind....now...before Will76 comes in and climbs up on his soapbox....the tube industry is already changing....some people have more knowledge than others...

CECASH has and will always be geared towards making affiliates the MOST $$ possible through the various program we offer...

Please take the time to investigate the "free lifetime join" mag program in your CECASH affiliate account and you too,can use the free porn for life advertising scheme!!

If you need help with it....just holler...i am always around to help.
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Socks...if you would like some info on our "free site" campaigns...please just let me know....it is common knowledge we are in the "4free" arena and our email sites are exactly that.....free.....we also have this model available for affiliates to promote at $1.50 per email....(more if you can send volume!!!)

There is a lot more going on that we will unveil as time permits....tube sights are not the ani-porn....most people are just not thinking outside the box...

You have to adapt in this biz...internet moves at light speed(sorry steve..please dont send C&D)and if you are not in place to adapt you will be left behind....now...before Will76 comes in and climbs up on his soapbox....the tube industry is already changing....some people have more knowledge than others...

CECASH has and will always be geared towards making affiliates the MOST $$ possible through the various program we offer...

Please take the time to investigate the "free lifetime join" mag program in your CECASH affiliate account and you too,can use the free porn for life advertising scheme!!

If you need help with it....just holler...i am always around to help.

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Gee, because I'm in the business of selling porn, not giving it away, free, for life?
Jesus dude, get a fucking clue. Do you even read what im typing?

Because YOU are in this business doing something THEY have to change their business model??? Wtf man, dont be an idiot.
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There is nothing legally wrong with it, I'm not saying that at all. I'm just saying that it's pretty fucking A typical of this industry that instead of protecting ourselves and make a stand that porn content is a valuable commodity, we are instead racing out to market that porn is worthless, has no value, and shouldn't be paid for.

If you guys think that's a great message to be sending your surfers, and a fantastic concept you hadn't thought of, then consider yourself informed and go start promoting. Send some to Zango while you're at it.
You think they are in this business to make you money or them money? Why don't you understand this really simply concept?
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Its just marketing. Its a pay per email program and I think they even give credits for the upsells
These have been around forever and made alot of people a ton of cash
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Like I said, I have no problems with free signups, $1 trials, I get it.. The industry is going that direction.

But I'm not sure how turning a bunch of paying customers into non-customers is the right way to do it. My only problem is with the marketing statement "Never pay for porn again"

Read it carefully. What's it saying to you?
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Its just marketing. Its a pay per email program and I think they even give credits for the upsells
These have been around forever and made alot of people a ton of cash
The Cemags program is still one of the most popular among our webmasters. We pay $1.50 per email, $15 per upsell, and 50 % of dialer.
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Socks...if you would like some info on our "free site" campaigns...please just let me know....it is common knowledge we are in the "4free" arena and our email sites are exactly that.....free.....we also have this model available for affiliates to promote at $1.50 per email....(more if you can send volume!!!)

There is a lot more going on that we will unveil as time permits....tube sights are not the ani-porn....most people are just not thinking outside the box...

You have to adapt in this biz...internet moves at light speed(sorry steve..please dont send C&D)and if you are not in place to adapt you will be left behind....now...before Will76 comes in and climbs up on his soapbox....the tube industry is already changing....some people have more knowledge than others...

CECASH has and will always be geared towards making affiliates the MOST $$ possible through the various program we offer...

Please take the time to investigate the "free lifetime join" mag program in your CECASH affiliate account and you too,can use the free porn for life advertising scheme!!

If you need help with it....just holler...i am always around to help.
Excellently stated
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Like I said, I have no problems with free signups, $1 trials, I get it.. The industry is going that direction.

But I'm not sure how turning a bunch of paying customers into non-customers is the right way to do it. My only problem is with the marketing statement "Never pay for porn again"

Read it carefully. What's it saying to you?
People I guess are not fucking on the first date anymore, they need some romance.
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Like I said, I have no problems with free signups, $1 trials, I get it.. The industry is going that direction.

But I'm not sure how turning a bunch of paying customers into non-customers is the right way to do it. My only problem is with the marketing statement "Never pay for porn again"

Read it carefully. What's it saying to you?

So what you are saying is....people surfing tube sights for free porn are paying customers?
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Socks...if you would like some info on our "free site" campaigns...please just let me know....it is common knowledge we are in the "4free" arena and our email sites are exactly that.....free.....we also have this model available for affiliates to promote at $1.50 per email....(more if you can send volume!!!)

There is a lot more going on that we will unveil as time permits....tube sights are not the ani-porn....most people are just not thinking outside the box...

You have to adapt in this biz...internet moves at light speed(sorry steve..please dont send C&D)and if you are not in place to adapt you will be left behind....now...before Will76 comes in and climbs up on his soapbox....the tube industry is already changing....some people have more knowledge than others...

CECASH has and will always be geared towards making affiliates the MOST $$ possible through the various program we offer...

Please take the time to investigate the "free lifetime join" mag program in your CECASH affiliate account and you too,can use the free porn for life advertising scheme!!

If you need help with it....just holler...i am always around to help.
I was going to say something its not worth it.
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Socks, you my friend are STUPID
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Funniest thread of the year FOR SURE
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There are 30 minute movies on that tube site.
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I dunno, using your logic, all my reviews of paysites should go like this:

This site only has paid content. What a ripoff! Who pays for porn anymore?! Stop being an idiot, leave your credit card in your pants, and just go jerk off for free!

Then we'll see some C&D's huh?
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I dunno, using your logic, all my reviews of paysites should go like this:

This site only has paid content. What a ripoff! Who pays for porn anymore?! Stop being an idiot, leave your credit card in your pants, and just go jerk off for free!

Then we'll see some C&D's huh?
NO, you get a check in the mail or direct deposit.
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As bas as tube sites are, advertising on tube sites using this kind of marketing is even worse. Way to get the message across loud and clear that porn shouldn't be paid for, because nobody in this industry is working at all or anything.. We obviously sell a product that should be completely free, since it's completely free to produce!

Another case of a big company fucking us all at once to make a few bucks...

I saw this ad on RedTube.com on the side, going to the site FreeXXXPasses.com

" never pay for porn again" is a slogan i have used in the past for advertising. It's pretty catchy and gets attention from the people who see it. Obviously, if no one ever paid for porn the company using the slogan wouldn't make money either. Try to look past the sales pitch and you will understand this.

I personally have no problem with people giving away content to make a sale. We all do it to some degree. Who are you to say where people draw the line if they own the content and what they are doing is legal ?
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So what you are saying is....people surfing tube sights for free porn are paying customers?
A good point, must admit..
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Socks...if you would like some info on our "free site" campaigns...please just let me know....it is common knowledge we are in the "4free" arena and our email sites are exactly that.....free.....we also have this model available for affiliates to promote at $1.50 per email....(more if you can send volume!!!)

There is a lot more going on that we will unveil as time permits....tube sights are not the ani-porn....most people are just not thinking outside the box...

You have to adapt in this biz...internet moves at light speed(sorry steve..please dont send C&D)and if you are not in place to adapt you will be left behind....now...before Will76 comes in and climbs up on his soapbox....the tube industry is already changing....some people have more knowledge than others...

CECASH has and will always be geared towards making affiliates the MOST $$ possible through the various program we offer...

Please take the time to investigate the "free lifetime join" mag program in your CECASH affiliate account and you too,can use the free porn for life advertising scheme!!

If you need help with it....just holler...i am always around to help.

Hey Jim, fuck you.

If you have ever read any of my posts on these matters it was in regards to stolen content not free content.
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Socks for someone who has been around for 5 years you are sounding alot like a noob. Have you ever joined one of those free email sites? cecash is actually giving away substantially less content than your average tgp/mgp.The real problem here is the idiot webmaster who is giving away full length movies. I really want to hear what cecash thinks about that.
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there are full scenes on there, i'd say yes
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Hey Jim, fuck you.

If you have ever read any of my posts on these matters it was in regards to stolen content not free content.
I still love you Will...i just needed a contextual reference

can we still be friends??
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can we still be friends??
then try to get an accurate one next time. I have no problem what so ever with tube sites that don't have stolen content on them. I've made that pretty clear in the past.
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There are 30 minute movies on that tube site.
Dont be a hater, its all home movies dont you know how tubes work ?
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Socks for someone who has been around for 5 years you are sounding alot like a noob. Have you ever joined one of those free email sites? cecash is actually giving away substantially less content than your average tgp/mgp.The real problem here is the idiot webmaster who is giving away full length movies. I really want to hear what cecash thinks about that.
Maybe I AM a dinosaur! But I'm still leery of putting a bunch of "free porn" ads on my site. Maybe we'd make more money for a few months, but I think it's sending the wrong message to paying customers.

I haven't joined one of the sites.. Y'know what, I think I'll take jim up on his offer and check their sites out. I've seen thousands of paysites, maybe I'll understand a bit better then.

Maybe my topic is a bit harsh, sorry for that.. But it's how I felt when I first saw that banner, and I'm never afraid to change my opinion on something.

Is there no fear in telling your customers who are used to paying for something that they can get it for free?

Seems like drastic measures during dangerous times.
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Maybe I AM a dinosaur! But I'm still leery of putting a bunch of "free porn" ads on my site. Maybe we'd make more money for a few months, but I think it's sending the wrong message to paying customers.

I haven't joined one of the sites.. Y'know what, I think I'll take jim up on his offer and check their sites out. I've seen thousands of paysites, maybe I'll understand a bit better then.

Maybe my topic is a bit harsh, sorry for that.. But it's how I felt when I first saw that banner, and I'm never afraid to change my opinion on something.

Is there no fear in telling your customers who are used to paying for something that they can get it for free?

Seems like drastic measures during dangerous times.

Free email programs have been around for years socks. instead of customers thinking they can get porn for free they join these free email sites and are so disappointed (join one you will see) that they end up thinking that there probably is no such thing as free porn and are more likely to want to pay.



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Maybe I AM a dinosaur! But I'm still leery of putting a bunch of "free porn" ads on my site. Maybe we'd make more money for a few months, but I think it's sending the wrong message to paying customers.

I haven't joined one of the sites.. Y'know what, I think I'll take jim up on his offer and check their sites out. I've seen thousands of paysites, maybe I'll understand a bit better then.

Maybe my topic is a bit harsh, sorry for that.. But it's how I felt when I first saw that banner, and I'm never afraid to change my opinion on something.

Is there no fear in telling your customers who are used to paying for something that they can get it for free?

Seems like drastic measures during dangerous times.

it depends who your customers are and what you are selling. What I am selling could be different than what you are selling and my customers could be different than yours. Night and day man.
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Dont be a hater, its all home movies dont you know how tubes work ?
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i don't think you're getting what they're trying to do.. free trials could be considered free too.. it's not
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it depends who your customers are and what you are selling. What I am selling could be different than what you are selling and my customers could be different than yours. Night and day man.
Alright I get it now..

I guess putting that message on MY site would be horrendous, but I suppose on a tube site it's kind of par for the course.

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The Cemags program is still one of the most popular among our webmasters. We pay $1.50 per email, $15 per upsell, and 50 % of dialer.
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Maybe I AM a dinosaur! But I'm still leery of putting a bunch of "free porn" ads on my site.
No, you're not a dinosaur. Matter of fact you may not have been doing this quite long enough...There have been "Free Porn For Life" sites since the late 90's As has been stated...it's just a marketing ploy...not much different than a $1 trial "membership" that only gets you a single scene.
That "Free Porn For Life" is in reality a big advertisment on the inside for the good stuff.
You got all twisted up over nothing. Personally I've never been able to promote those kind of ad campaigns. I'm sure others do well with it. But of all the different programs I've promoted over the years...the "Free Porn" ones were always the weakest for me.
Again, it's just marketing bro. A clever way to serve the same plate of food with a different label. Just like we all do.
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