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directfiesta 12-04-2007 04:39 PM

50 lies ... or 50 dumb right wingers ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by sltr (Post 13470975)
man, we couldn't trust the italians in ww2 and we can't trust em now-

that's 2x, the bastids!

Shit, I tought they were staunch allies in the invasion ( oups... liberation ) of Iraq....

Probably again lies .... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

tony286 12-04-2007 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13470528)
Yea... the biggest crime EVER and everyone kept shut about it.

Thats where I find it hard to believe also, too many people would of had to be involved to pull it off. I do think they knew it was coming and did nothing.

EZRhino 12-04-2007 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13470866)
....buzzzzzzz.... wrong .......:

http://www.corriere.it/politica/07_n...ba99c53b.shtml

but you wont understand anything, it is not in american ....

Cossiga's new revelations appeared last week in Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation.

http://www.bostonnow.com/blogs/pitbu...-an-inside-job


Now, back to FauxNews ....

Well holy fucking shit, was that so hard. Wow to actually cite a article. Now, the next thing is, who are the sources for the witness? Oh wait, those are never cited either. Those are sources that are way too hush hush. We are going to have to take his word for it, beause the people who gave him the info are super secret spies, that play double agents for the US CIA, Isreal Mossad and British MI-6. And they only trade information about the west during their super secrect meetings, in Bermuda triangle becuase thats the only safe place from Bush's Christain mystic powers. And only becuase of the Golden Compass is how the Italian President was able to find out about this secret group of spies.

WarChild 12-04-2007 04:46 PM

Wow I guess with all this rock solid information we should be expected impeachment anytime soon from the Democratic House? I mean these are stone cold facts now, right?

VicD 12-04-2007 04:58 PM

if this is true...

DaddyHalbucks 12-04-2007 05:02 PM

Post proof or STFU!!

GatorB 12-04-2007 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 13470994)
Thats where I find it hard to believe also, too many people would of had to be involved to pull it off. I do think they knew it was coming and did nothing.


Like Pearl Harbor. FDR knew but sicne ther was such an anti-war movement going on he had to make sure there was mass casualties. Stopping the attack well before it got to Hawaii might not have garnered enough support to declare war.

Matt 26z 12-04-2007 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 13470528)
Yea... the biggest crime EVER and everyone kept shut about it.

How big a number is "everyone" ???

Most people grossly over estimate the number of informed workers necessarily to carry out an inside job.

Penthouse Tony 12-04-2007 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13470747)
i'm guessing your assuming lots of people were involved. ?

That wouldnt nec need to be the case.

By all accounts before 9/11 bush and the bin laden's are pretty close right.

they invest in the same things , friends, partners etc.

So lets just say bin laden was over at the bushes one night and bush told bin laden.

" i will give you 1 billion dollars if you wage a terrorist campaign against western nations , so we can take over lots of oil rich countries. "

all that took was one guy, there would be no everyone.. just bush as bin laden already admitted it.


Timeout... Bin Ladin has been around since before Bush.

Snake Doctor 12-04-2007 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 13471015)
Well holy fucking shit, was that so hard. Wow to actually cite a article. Now, the next thing is, who are the sources for the witness? Oh wait, those are never cited either. Those are sources that are way too hush hush. We are going to have to take his word for it, beause the people who gave him the info are super secret spies, that play double agents for the US CIA, Isreal Mossad and British MI-6. And they only trade information about the west during their super secrect meetings, in Bermuda triangle becuase thats the only safe place from Bush's Christain mystic powers. And only becuase of the Golden Compass is how the Italian President was able to find out about this secret group of spies.

The really funny thing is these "sources" only seem to speak to writers who already believe 9/11 was an inside job.
They never call the NY Times or CNN or anyone like that to spill the beans.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm

buzzy 12-04-2007 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13471128)
The really funny thing is these "sources" only seem to speak to writers who already believe 9/11 was an inside job.
They never call the NY Times or CNN or anyone like that to spill the beans.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm

It's the ex italian fucking president

EZRhino 12-04-2007 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13471160)
It's the ex italian fucking president

Who fucking cares, since when is the office of the President of a country the reason why we should believe him. If that were the case then you should believe that everything that Bush says is gospel.

buzzy 12-04-2007 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 13471209)
Who fucking cares, since when is the office of the President of a country the reason why we should believe him. If that were the case then you should believe that everything that Bush says is gospel.

Ok by saying that you are agreeing every single thing your administration and mine says is bullshit. I can drink to that!

directfiesta 12-04-2007 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 13471015)
Well holy fucking shit, was that so hard. Wow to actually cite a article. Now, the next thing is, who are the sources for the witness? Oh wait, those are never cited either. Those are sources that are way too hush hush. We are going to have to take his word for it, beause the people who gave him the info are super secret spies, that play double agents for the US CIA, Isreal Mossad and British MI-6. And they only trade information about the west during their super secrect meetings, in Bermuda triangle becuase thats the only safe place from Bush's Christain mystic powers. And only becuase of the Golden Compass is how the Italian President was able to find out about this secret group of spies.

idiot...:2 cents: and wants to stay that way ....

Snake Doctor 12-04-2007 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13471160)
It's the ex italian fucking president

so what? That gives him about as much credibility as if he were the current Venezuelan president...or the current Iranian president.

directfiesta 12-04-2007 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13471128)
The really funny thing is these "sources" only seem to speak to writers who already believe 9/11 was an inside job.
They never call the NY Times or CNN or anyone like that to spill the beans.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmm

lol ... sources are not news station ...

Sources are people involved in the operation ....

===

you :Hello Bill O'Reily
Bill: Yes Lenny ..
you: Give me info that you are aware of , part of, direct knowledge, that you are the source ..
Bill: pinhead...

Snake Doctor 12-04-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13471217)
Ok by saying that you are agreeing every single thing your administration and mine says is bullshit. I can drink to that!

No that's not what he said, he saying just because someone is or was a high ranking government official doesn't necessarily mean they're always telling the truth.

It must suck that in order to try and win arguments you have to twist your opponents words instead of just letting your case stand on the facts.

buzzy 12-04-2007 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snake Doctor (Post 13471273)
so what? That gives him about as much credibility as if he were the current Venezuelan president...or the current Iranian president.

Or the American president?

Snake Doctor 12-04-2007 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13471274)
lol ... sources are not news station ...

Sources are people involved in the operation ....

===

you :Hello Bill O'Reily
Bill: Yes Lenny ..
you: Give me info that you are aware of , part of, direct knowledge, that you are the source ..
Bill: pinhead...

Wow you really are stupid

Did you not see the part where I said the sources call the reporters to give them information?
How you went from that to thinking I said the reporters were the actual sources is beyond me.
Perhaps your subpar reading skills are the reason you think 9/11 was an inside job. You must have misread something somewhere.

Snake Doctor 12-04-2007 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buzzy (Post 13471280)
Or the American president?

Yes, he has no credibility either.

As for 9/11, I don't care what the president says or thinks, we had a 9/11 commission do a thorough investigation. That investigation involved hundreds of people, I seriously doubt that if 9/11 had been an inside job that all of the people involved in the 9/11 commission were "on the inside".

Jesus, I just used 9/11 so many times you'd think I was Rudy Giuliani.

EZRhino 12-04-2007 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by directfiesta (Post 13471238)
idiot...:2 cents: and wants to stay that way ....

:2 cents: is all these theories are worth. Unless you are invested in the theories. Think about how many millions of bucks people are making by harping on this issue, and leading the sheep to the conspiracy movies and websites. To translate into a language you can understand "Bah Bah Bah Bah Bah"

PS.
"Bah"

Enjoy the grass

Pleasurepays 12-04-2007 06:59 PM

:1orglaugh
Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13471094)
Like Pearl Harbor. FDR knew but sicne ther was such an anti-war movement going on he had to make sure there was mass casualties. Stopping the attack well before it got to Hawaii might not have garnered enough support to declare war.

yeah right. obviously letting the entire pacific fleet get wiped out in 3hrs is solid military strategy in a war with japan which would obviously depend on successful naval battles and naval support for any hope of success

wow

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Pleasurepays 12-04-2007 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EZRhino (Post 13471371)
:2 cents: is all these theories are worth. Unless you are invested in the theories. Think about how many millions of bucks people are making by harping on this issue, and leading the sheep to the conspiracy movies and websites. To translate into a language you can understand "Bah Bah Bah Bah Bah"

PS.
"Bah"

Enjoy the grass

i was watching a 9/11 show on the history channel and i found myself having to agree with one of the people being interviewed when he said that ultimately all of the conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists do more harm than good and its a behavior that is nothing but corrosive to society. there is a difference between healthy skepticism and unhealthy skepticism.

SmokeyTheBear 12-04-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13471511)
he said that ultimately all of the conspiracy theories and conspiracy theorists do more harm than good

how did he come to that conclusion ?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13471511)

and its a behavior that is nothing but corrosive to society.

asking questions is "corrosive to society" :1orglaugh

again did he explain what lead him to that conclusion or any evidence to bolster this claim ?

either way i suppose if some guy on tv said it , its likely true :winkwink:

Dollarmansteve 12-04-2007 09:07 PM

9/11 "inside job" conspiracy : non-religious 20-somethings as Jesus : Christians as Santa : 6 year olds

Everybody NEEDS to believe in some kind of tooth fairy...

GreyWolf 12-04-2007 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13471859)
asking questions is "corrosive to society" :1orglaugh

Welll.... :winkwink: Some folks have been known to think that SmokeyB....

.... Stalin, Hitler, Pinnochet and a few current leaders prob think the same thing, especially where there is lack of transparency an unaccountability.

Pleasurepays 12-04-2007 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13471859)
how did he come to that conclusion ?




asking questions is "corrosive to society" :1orglaugh

again did he explain what lead him to that conclusion or any evidence to bolster this claim ?

either way i suppose if some guy on tv said it , its likely true :winkwink:

conspiracy theorists aren't "asking questions". its not like there is some objective search for truth going on with conspiracies. conspiracy theorists are starting with a conclusion and for the most part do nothing but demand acknowledgement of their own conclusions as well as admissions of guilt. this is thinly disguised in the form of "questions" which are always met with a staunch refusal to accept ANY explanation given.

big difference.

Pleasurepays 12-04-2007 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13471859)
again did he explain what lead him to that conclusion or any evidence to bolster this claim ?

obviously its an opinion... not a math equation. :2 cents:

Snake Doctor 12-04-2007 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13471887)
conspiracy theorists aren't "asking questions". its not like there is some objective search for truth going on with conspiracies. conspiracy theorists are starting with a conclusion and for the most part do nothing but demand acknowledgement of their own conclusions as well as admissions of guilt. this is thinly disguised in the form of "questions" which are always met with a staunch refusal to accept ANY explanation given.

big difference.

Exactly, they don't really ever ask questions, they make accusations. Then, every time they can find a minor inconsistency in something the government says or does, they hold this up as "proof" that their theory of what really happened is correct.

Even though the overwhelming preponderance of evidence is against them, as long as they can find one little thing that hasn't been explained to their satisfaction they have enough reason to continue their crusade.

Scootermuze 12-04-2007 09:29 PM

Those responsible love all the theories bouncin' around....
after a time, so many stories exist that nobody knows what to believe and just forget about the whole mess...

xxxdesign-net 12-04-2007 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pleasurepays (Post 13471887)
conspiracy theorists aren't "asking questions". its not like there is some objective search for truth going on with conspiracies. conspiracy theorists are starting with a conclusion and for the most part do nothing but demand acknowledgement of their own conclusions as well as admissions of guilt. this is thinly disguised in the form of "questions" which are always met with a staunch refusal to accept ANY explanation given.

big difference.

thats a nice theory of your own you have there..

The Duck 12-05-2007 08:23 AM

Almost 100.

pornguy 12-05-2007 08:27 AM

Another whistle blower that will most likely die of a heart attack soon

Phoenix 12-05-2007 08:32 AM

the sun is the same in a relative way....but you're older

shorter of breath..one day closer to death

sltr 12-05-2007 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SmokeyTheBear (Post 13471859)

asking questions is "corrosive to society" :1orglaugh

asking questions obviously is not.

screaming we are all victims of the government (multiple governments according to this particular *theory*) with not even a shred of proofs , combined with a complete inability to have an open mature discussion nor a willingness to budge from the *theory* while claiming anyone who disagrees with the particular conspiracy scenario is a sheep that cannot think on their own as the only alternative to official findings is.:)

tranza 12-05-2007 08:35 AM

Infowars.com

Quite a reliable source, huh?

kmanrox 12-05-2007 08:50 AM

some of you guys are fucking funny how you think...
brainwashed in different directions all over this thread

directfiesta 12-05-2007 09:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tranza (Post 13473408)
Infowars.com

Quite a reliable source, huh?

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

So, if infowars reported on the US invasion of Iraq in 2003, that makes that story a hoax ...

Here, are those reliable enough:

Quote:

http://www.corriere.it/politica/07_n...ba99c53b.shtml

but you wont understand anything, it is not in american ....

Cossiga's new revelations appeared last week in Italy's oldest and most widely read newspaper, Corriere della Sera. Below appears a rough translation.

http://www.bostonnow.com/blogs/pitbu...-an-inside-job


Now, back to FauxNews ....
I am sceptic about the 9/11 affirmation, but the previous actions in the OPERATION GLADIO, there is documentatioh :

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...06682910394510

PLease, DO NOT watch it if you want to keep your opinion as is .... :1orglaugh

The Duck 12-06-2007 03:08 AM

Nice links there, thanks.

Drake 12-06-2007 03:49 AM

Not buying it

theking 12-06-2007 05:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GatorB (Post 13471094)
Like Pearl Harbor. FDR knew but sicne ther was such an anti-war movement going on he had to make sure there was mass casualties. Stopping the attack well before it got to Hawaii might not have garnered enough support to declare war.

The Commanders in Hawaii as well as General McArthur in the Philipines were notified two weeks in advance of the Japanese attacks to prepare for an attack from the Japanese. General McArthur prepared as best as he could...the Commanders at Hawaii did not do much in the way of preparation (that is why several were relieved of their commands after the attack). In other words FDR suspected a probable...if not an imminent...attack either in the Phillipines or Hawaii (the thinking was it would probably be in the Phillipines)...as it turned out it was both. It is total bullshit that FDR allowed the attack...but it is true that the Japanese were put into a position by FDR that they had to make a decision...either attack or suffer a Naval blockade of their country. The US had given the Japanese an ultimatum...to cease and desist there expansionism in the East...or suffer a blockade.

theking 12-06-2007 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kandah (Post 13469749)
Source

Another high profile whistleblower added to the list.

The article is pigshit.

OldJeff 12-06-2007 05:31 AM

So let me see If I got this right...

If they say 9/11 was done by the US government = reliable news source

CNN, BBC, The Associated Press = State Run propaganda

Do I have that right ?

Ah Fuck It

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theking 12-06-2007 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OldJeff (Post 13477622)
So let me see If I got this right...

If they say 9/11 was done by the US government = reliable news source

CNN, BBC, The Associated Press = State Run propaganda

Do I have that right ?

Ah Fuck It

Max Cash is paying 50 bucks on all Gay sign ups

Http://www.maximumcash.com

That seems to be their thinking.

The Duck 12-06-2007 01:00 PM

them pagans crack me up

reaching_into_the_muck 12-06-2007 01:08 PM

It amazes me that some people can be savy enough to start their own companies but lack the extra mental ability to realize that governments have long been attacking their own people in order to get the public to ASK for security.

The reason more of these world leaders do not come out and say what the ex-Italian president has said is because they know that 99% of humans are too hyped up on religion, mainstream news sources and Hollywood movies to see through all the deception. So exposing things like 911 is basically pointless and on top of that your career is over and you might even have an "accident".

Sysgenix 12-06-2007 01:54 PM

The source of this article is a total nutjob publication that thinks vatican runs the whole world as well.
LOL

The Duck 12-15-2007 12:06 PM

almost 100


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