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  • Kard63
    Confirmed User
    • Nov 2003
    • 8944

    #1

    Someone is trying to sell me a blacklsited domain

    Is a domain blacklisted by google fucked for life? Does it every come off the list?
  • Snake Doctor
    I'm Lenny2 Bitch
    • Mar 2001
    • 13449

    #2
    why take the risk? I would pass
    sig too big

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    • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
      (felis madjewicus)
      • Jul 2006
      • 20368

      #3
      the hassle you go through to get that domain out of the sandbox is gonna make you wish you never touched it...

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      • datatank
        Confirmed User
        • Aug 2004
        • 5471

        #4
        You can get it added back in super easy.

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        • DBS.US
          Geo Cities
          • Aug 2003
          • 11843

          #5
          How much money are we talking about?
          Have an unused domain? Make a Free Chaturbate White Label site and be making money tonight

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          • SmokeyTheBear
            ►SouthOfHeaven
            • Jun 2004
            • 28609

            #6
            without some sort of intervention on google's part it takes a long time to get out of the penalty.

            although i suspect that the type of penalty that resulted in the ban has alot to do with how long the ban lasts.

            I can def give you some real life insight .

            I own a domain that was banned roughly 3 years ago from google.

            it became unbanned some time in the last 6 months or so.

            I noticed that new pages were taking a long time to get spidered. so i bought a new domain and made basically an identical setup to the other domain to see how fast google spidered and listed.

            It seems that the domain google had previously banned and unbanned has a "hidden" penalty , the pages get spidered slowly but fail to obtain any traffic, brand new domain gets spidered faster and rank quicker.
            hatisblack at yahoo.com

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            • papill0n
              Unregistered Abuser
              • Oct 2007
              • 15547

              #7
              I have submitted a reinclusion request and had a domain indexed again a week later. If you really want the domain you should get it.

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              • datatank
                Confirmed User
                • Aug 2004
                • 5471

                #8
                Originally posted by RageCash-Ben
                I have submitted a reinclusion request and had a domain indexed again a week later. If you really want the domain you should get it.
                Exactly Smokey you did not sell it and have a new owner submit that is the dif.

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                • d-null
                  . . .
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 13724

                  #9
                  it's been said that adult domains have a harder time getting unbanned from google

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                  • Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life
                    (felis madjewicus)
                    • Jul 2006
                    • 20368

                    #10
                    i bought a domain back 8 or 9 months back which google had banned. i submitted to be reindexed, and after 4 months still nothing. i fired some emails around to no avail. i wound up just letting the domain drop. some people seem to get lucky and others just don't...

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                    • Zester
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jul 2003
                      • 5344

                      #11
                      why buy a blacklisted domain ? the only reason I see is for reselling it
                      * Mainstream ? $65 per sale
                      * new male contraception

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                      • justFred
                        Confirmed User
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 922

                        #12
                        from what I understand if you are not the person who owned the domain when google banned it AND they can verify this, then Google will bring you out of the sandbox very quickly.

                        how much green are we talking about here? It was blacklisted so I wouldn't pay more than 20% what it would be worth if it weren't, just in case. If the dude has a problem with that, tell him to take a hike.
                        Vote Bill Cosby 2012

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                        • d-null
                          . . .
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 13724

                          #13
                          I had a blacklisted domain on the same server as some of my other sites, then I started to wonder about the whole "bad neighborhood" concept and just took it off and parked it.... it's a really good domain name too, and aged and all (8 years old, but of course being banned, that means diddly squat)

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                          • StarkReality
                            Confirmed User
                            • May 2004
                            • 4444

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Kard63
                            Is a domain blacklisted by google fucked for life? Does it every come off the list?
                            If there is an owner change (along with host, nameservers, IP) simply file a reinclusion request, but make sure the site is really clean. Keep in mind that google doesn't really like "thin affiliates", so if it's an adult site, it should have some really good content...or the request will be ignored. Although being a "thin affiliate" doesn't necessarily get a domain banned, it definitely prevents reinclusion. Thin affiliate basically means that you have no own content and rely on third party content and affiliate programs.

                            I yet have to see a domain that doesn't come back automatically, but as Smokey said, it takes many years, one of mine took 5 years, 2002 to 2007 till it finally appeared in the SERPs again (was cleaned and filled with new content in 2002 already). Same observation: It still suffers in some way, the pages crawled seem to rank normally, but new pages are only crawled sporadically.

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                            • d-null
                              . . .
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 13724

                              #15
                              any idea if redirecting a blacklisted domain could hurt the domain you 301 to?

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                              • Barefootsies
                                Choice is an Illusion
                                • Feb 2005
                                • 42635

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ismokeblunts
                                the hassle you go through to get that domain out of the sandbox is gonna make you wish you never touched it...
                                Not always true.

                                Been there, done that. More a waiting game then anything else once you'e faxed docs to Google legal.

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                                • justFred
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Mar 2007
                                  • 922

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by jetjet
                                  any idea if redirecting a blacklisted domain could hurt the domain you 301 to?
                                  google will never penalize a domain that was 301'd to by a blacklisted domain.

                                  the reason is this would EASILY be exploited to drop competitors out of the SERPS
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                                  • d-null
                                    . . .
                                    • Apr 2007
                                    • 13724

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by justFred
                                    google will never penalize a domain that was 301'd to by a blacklisted domain.

                                    the reason is this would EASILY be exploited to drop competitors out of the SERPS
                                    I was thinking that, although I wonder if you put them on the same server and 301'd if they would associate and penalize somehow

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                                    • SmokeyTheBear
                                      ►SouthOfHeaven
                                      • Jun 2004
                                      • 28609

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by datatank
                                      Exactly Smokey you did not sell it and have a new owner submit that is the dif.
                                      actually i did. i changed registrars, name servers , and hosts as well
                                      hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                      • justFred
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Mar 2007
                                        • 922

                                        #20
                                        I can't remember where I found the information, but it mentioned specifically that google will NEVER penalize you for a 301 redirect. I think in the article it did mention that google might not transfer your link juice to the new domain under xyz conditions... but I don't recall.

                                        I just know they they won't ban you, etc.
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                                        • d-null
                                          . . .
                                          • Apr 2007
                                          • 13724

                                          #21
                                          with google, the complete bans don't worry me as much as the "little" manual tweaking that seems to happen that puts a wrench into the best laid plans

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                                          • Kard63
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Nov 2003
                                            • 8944

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Barefootsies
                                            Not always true.

                                            Been there, done that. More a waiting game then anything else once you'e faxed docs to Google legal.

                                            faxed the docs to google legal ?

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                                            • brand0n
                                              been very busy
                                              • Nov 2002
                                              • 26983

                                              #23
                                              depends on the domain really.
                                              want to buy this spot for cheap? it is of course for sale. long term deals are always the best bet. brand0n/ at/ a o l dot commies.

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                                              • Barefootsies
                                                Choice is an Illusion
                                                • Feb 2005
                                                • 42635

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by Kard63
                                                faxed the docs to google legal ?
                                                Right.

                                                I had a site that was sandboxed, and to get it out of there, I had to fax some paper work over to Google's legal department. It took 3-4 months, but it was out of the sand box, and back on page 1 in no time.

                                                But.. it wasn't for 301 redirect.
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                                                • V_RocKs
                                                  Damn Right I Kiss Ass!
                                                  • Nov 2003
                                                  • 32449

                                                  #25
                                                  ALL of my blacklisted domains eventually came back to Google and currently I have 10 or so that are within top 5 for search terms they got blacklisted getting.

                                                  Go figure!

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                                                  • Barefootsies
                                                    Choice is an Illusion
                                                    • Feb 2005
                                                    • 42635

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by V_RocKs
                                                    ALL of my blacklisted domains eventually came back to Google and currently I have 10 or so that are within top 5 for search terms they got blacklisted getting.

                                                    Go figure!
                                                    Should You Email Your Members?

                                                    Link1 | Link2 | Link3

                                                    Enough Said.

                                                    "Would you rather live like a king for a year or like a prince forever?"

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