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Old 09-23-2002, 10:15 PM   #1
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ccBill or Ibill...?

Such a tough choice... seems to me they are the most popular, and I am open to other opinions, except for Jettis.

As far as ccbill goes, I hear its actually hard to get a signup and people do 8x better with ibill.

As for ibill, I know they had terrible issues with their tracking system and every now and then things go wrong with their stats, but as far as I can tell it always gets worked out.

what do you think?
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Old 09-23-2002, 10:23 PM   #2
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find two sites...one that uses ibill, one that uses ccbill, buy something and observe ...
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Old 09-23-2002, 10:29 PM   #4
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and what about globill?

anyone out there use them for your processing? Do they pay on time? Have good cutomer support?


thanks...
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Old 09-24-2002, 12:45 AM   #5
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Hi Alky,

Interested in daily payouts and complete control? Give us a call to discuss yur options.

Toll Free: 888-357-8166
Once you see our system, you will be amazed, I promise.

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Old 09-24-2002, 12:47 AM   #6
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Hi Alky,

Interested in daily payouts and complete control? Give us a call to discuss yur options.

Toll Free: 888-357-8166
Once you see our system, you will be amazed, I promise.

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Old 09-24-2002, 12:50 AM   #7
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Yes,

We settle the batches daily for each merchatns and the $$$ is deposited directly into your bank account every business day.
We do not touch your funds at all and simply bill you for our services at the end of each month.

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Old 09-24-2002, 12:59 AM   #8
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neither!

EPOCH or Website Billing is what you need to ask yourself.
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Old 09-24-2002, 01:10 AM   #9
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Here is a good question...if IBill sucks as much as everyone says, why does ARS use them?
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Old 09-24-2002, 01:16 AM   #10
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They already have money there and it's a lot of money. It's easier to stay at this point.
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Old 09-24-2002, 01:17 AM   #11
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Ive got an idea on how iBill can suck alot less they they do currently...They can buy my domain rebills.com and maybe webmasters will think they are good because they have such a domain....Or better yet, they can change their name from iBill to rebills after they acquire that domain from me...
i mean what webmaster is gonna forgot rebills.com? I'll tell you who...the newbie webmaster who has never had rebills in his life. Wow, im a genius. I have all of this planned out to a tee
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Old 09-24-2002, 01:18 AM   #12
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They already have money there and it's a lot of money. It's easier to stay at this point.
So you're saying they only stay with IBill because they can't be bothered to switch to a new processor? I find that hard to believe.
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Old 09-24-2002, 01:23 AM   #13
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So you're saying they only stay with IBill because they can't be bothered to switch to a new processor? I find that hard to believe.
*does a smurfy dance*
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Old 09-24-2002, 01:40 AM   #14
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Whats a smurfy dance?
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Old 09-24-2002, 07:00 AM   #15
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They already have money there and it's a lot of money. It's easier to stay at this point.
I disagree. In the last year ARS left and ran Jettis as a primary for a short while and switched back to IBILL. There were other issues in play for these moves.
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Old 09-24-2002, 07:12 AM   #16
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Netbilling is cool if you can get approved I spoke to a few people they are the best if you want to have your own merchant account.
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Old 09-24-2002, 07:38 AM   #17
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Check out Web Transaction Services for all your US & Canadian ACH needs! Our ACH Debit program can have you set up in 24 hours and we will be there to address any custom requirements you may need. We are the only payment solution to offer Real-time Account Validation and Canadian ACH! WTS also offers an affiliate program with Direct Deposit for Affiliates! Custom Email Receipts, Custom Web pages, Cross Sells, Up-Sells, Loyalty and other retention programs are just a few features that keep us ahead of the competition and behind your business. It's an easy set-up with no charge. Feel free to contact me with any questions you may have.
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Old 09-24-2002, 08:24 AM   #18
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Old 09-24-2002, 08:30 AM   #19
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Old 09-24-2002, 08:32 AM   #20
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Old 09-24-2002, 08:43 AM   #21
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ccbill sucks.
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Old 09-24-2002, 11:32 AM   #22
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Old 09-24-2002, 11:47 AM   #23
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fuckin ccbill all the way ...

let me put it another way ... have you ever seen anyone with a sig that says "ccbill sucks" ?
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Old 09-24-2002, 11:50 AM   #24
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fuckin ccbill all the way ...

let me put it another way ... have you ever seen anyone with a sig that says "ccbill sucks" ?
Only the new guy with all of 15 posts to his name lol
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Old 09-24-2002, 11:56 AM   #25
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NetBilling?

How does that work if I do not have a merchant account and want to do my paysite(s)?

Is there a ridiculous deposit to be made, etc?

Whats the procedure? There is no real talk about adult paysites on the netbilling.com site
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Old 09-24-2002, 01:11 PM   #26
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IBILL will kill you site with problems they dont even tell you about, every week their CMI is full of problems. Has been for the last 4 years.
If you want to limit your growth and membership then go with IBILL.
If you want a class act then try Epoch.
Our sites have been with them all and so far Epoch has proved to be the best alternative.
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Old 09-24-2002, 02:25 PM   #27
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As for ibill, I know they had terrible issues with their tracking system and every now and then things go wrong with their stats, but as far as I can tell it always gets worked out.

Worked out? How?

I have Ibill sites, but I would not start another with them. We have been asking to get a decline ratio report from them, and I guess there is a reason they don't want to give it. Other billers will allow you to see decline figures in reports.

There is also the supected issue of arbitrary account cancellations with Ibill. No answer on that question either.
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Old 09-24-2002, 03:05 PM   #28
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Such a tough choice... seems to me they are the most popular, and I am open to other opinions, except for Jettis.

As far as ccbill goes, I hear its actually hard to get a signup and people do 8x better with ibill.

As for ibill, I know they had terrible issues with their tracking system and every now and then things go wrong with their stats, but as far as I can tell it always gets worked out.

what do you think?
Epoch. Use ccbill or Ibill as a secondary!
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