Taxes probably aren't much higher than here if you do the math. And besides you don't need much money left over after taxes anyways.

You take ven the poorest here some guy making minimum wage pays 10% of his income in Income and FICA taxes, he pays sales taxes when every he goes to the store. He pays gas taxes when he buy gas. His utilities, cable, phone, etc all have various taxes on them. There are other taxes like when you renew your drivers licence or car registration. Except they call them "fees" it's a TAX. Probably dozens of other if I sat down and thought it over. At the end of the day he is probably paying 40% of his income in taxes. WTF is he getting for it? If he gets sick he can't go to the doctor. Public transportation in the US either sucks or is non existant, schools suck etc etc

and cocksuckers that kill 2 year old girls. Fuck that.

good video i like moores shit

Your problem sounds exactly like the kinda thing that usually screws you in Canada but frankly an MRI wasn't necessary and you should have been given a simple xray and referred to an orthopedic surgeon... then put on the waiting list.

I hate to say it but the other problem is being honest which in this world (or at least the medical one) never gets you ahead. By simply telling the ER doc or GP that this injury directly affects your work would have bumped you up.

The last problem you may have will also have to do with what province you're in and if you're in Ontario from what I hear it has just about the worst health care.

Yup, Mexico is known for its great health care. And dont forget its water, every American should go to Mexico for its health care and great tap water.

Must be nice to have a population of 4.6 million and a GDP (per capita, 2005): NOK 412 000 (EUR 52 600). How ever do they do it. Wonder if they would still have such great life styles if they had to support a population of 300 Million plus 24 million more being free loading illegals.

immigration is a spin topic. at current funding levels they do add a burden on the system but this wouldn't even be an issue if the US were actually running the govt like Norway or other progressive EU countries... you can't really compare the US to these countries because they aren't engaged in capitalist imperialism. 40% of our GDP is spent on defense (funny term really) and god knows how much we hand out to every country on earth to payoff other governments for allowing us to do business there. it adds up to one hell of a chunk of change. when are the people going to realize that the US govt is neo-fascist and the real "citizens" of our country are the corporations they serve. they are robbing our country blind and selling it off at a record pace. I guarantee that if you added it all up that foreign countries own over 30% of the US in real estate and corporate assets. this is the real issue... the system makes us slaves to it...

True that the cost of living in Norway is roughly 25-30% higher than the US and the country is rich in natural resources.

However, all western countries, excluding the US, have UHC and generally their taxation rates are no different to the US.

There are also other countries which have healthcare systems on par with with the US. A familar example is where we are now - the cost of totally comprehensive UHC for a family of four is approx $250/year and taxation otherwise, is very low and often with no applicable taxation.

Only my :2 cents: - it has little to do with taxation levels and more a matter of priority as to where revenue is directed to provide benefits to those paying tax.

Nice addendum. Thanks.

Its TRUE.

My Wife is Norwegian.

She wanted to continue her University studies overseas so she flew to Australia, Norway gave her a grant/loan to come to one of Australia's highest end University's. They put her loan on 0% interest while she studies and about 2/3's of the money she recieves is a grant the rest she has to pay back sometime in the future.

While she was in Australia studing, the Norwegian govenment pay for all her dental and health care no matter what the cost. She had to have $50,000 worth of dental treatment and Norway just covered it all no problem.

She tells me when a couple have a baby in Norway, they get 12 months maternity leave and even the man can take 6 months of that leave while the woman works.

Its pretty amazing.

The entire country is TAXED like a bitch though, they do not like people being successful or breaking out from the crowd. Hence they tax like a MOFO.

They also have MASSIVE OIL, and they have whats known as the "Oil Fund" which i'm sure helps pay for half the services it offers.

My Wife just decided to do another 2 years University (she finished her Masters degree 2 years ago). And she has no intension of going back to Norway and they do not expect her too. But she called them up and yep they will again pay for her to goto University with more loans/grants to do another degree.

GOTTA LOVE THAT COUNTRY!!!

Matt

that's what i said to the post you responded.
if you don't have insurance are you fucked big time and the US government will tell you :321GFY
at least in canada you don't have to worry about paying for doctor if you not feeling well or in case of emergency.
can you imagine what it is like to have bipass surgery or having your wife give birth to a child and never seeing a bill. Nada, zip, nothing, zepo, zero
now that is something to be :thumbsup with

Rockatansky doesnt seems to be so happy :)

Now I want to live in Norway.......

But we do..... :pimp :1orglaugh

J:)lly

There's tons of private clinic you can walk in and get surgery you just need insurance or pay up.

Completely untrue, sorry. In the US, if you have a heart attack and you are dying, you cannot be denied care. They must stabilize you then transfer you to a county facility.
Same with any immediately life threatening condition.


I'm not saying that there aren't problems, but what you said is not true.


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https://youtube.com/watch?v=uGTzbj3fRSw

i was going to say the same thing until i read that the post was from 4 years ago :)

Neither State nor private insurance is perfect. They both have flaws. When my Brother was diagnosed with Prostate cancer it was just after he had lost his job and uninsured. The cost of fixing it was astronomical. He flew to the UK and as a UK citizen got it done for free. For the follow up checks he flew back to the UK to get them. Cheaper than a US hospital.

When my Farther suffered a massive heart attack he was rushed to hospital and very soon after had open heart surgery which saved his life. Then when he had an Annurism in his aorta the local hospital seeing he had open heart surgery assumed he had insurance and started doing test instead of taking him directly to the hospital which did the surgery by helicopter right away. Even though my Brother and Mother kept asking them too.

He died in that local hospital while they were running up the bill.

The worse thing about that film Sicko, was the old guy who well past retirement age was still working as a postman. To keep his health insurance. At his age he should be able to retire knowing that after decades of working and paying taxes to the State, he has the State to look after him.

His columbine movie was full of half-truths and deceit

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In the USA, they will treat you with the basic care to keep you alive if you are wheeled into Emergency, and then they will send you the Bill. If you cannot pay the hospital and it's collectors will destroy your credit/rep. for the next 7-10 years. This may keep you from landing a job or finding a decent place to live. Basically your life is ruined for some years if you cannot pay.

Now, pass the apple pie.

they want us sick to pay all moneis to them

Actually, most lenders to not count medical bills outstanding on credit with nearly as much weight as other unpaid bills. You can still get mortgages, loans, etc, even with large unpaid medical bills on your credit.


.:2 cents:

When are you coming to see me in Norway? I may get you a free McDonalds meal!

I won't eat that crap in the US, why would I want the Norwegian version?

"Hello there." "I'll have the Mac-Lutefisk fillet Sandwich and also a Big Mac with a double Smalahove patty, and then I'll finish up with a nice hunk of Mac-Gammalost please!"



:winkwink:


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Well obviously you didn't have money because if you did you could have paid cash and no waiting. So if you were in the US without cash you wouldn't be going to the doctor either. At least in Canada would have seen a doctor eventually vs NEVER in the US.

Yes and when you can't pay that bill the hospital passes that cost onto the paying patients and onto the insurance comapnies which pass that onto their customers in the form of higher premiums. And this is better how?

Then after nearly dying you get the bill.

fuck that, they're obviously commies. they are wrong. :2 cents::1orglaugh

Not so sure I agree with the pussy stance on rapists, murderers, and child molesters. :disgust

health care has huge waitlist
no health care you have to pay for everything
blabalbalablabal....
end of thread: noone has convinced the other, everyone still thinks he/she is right.

Some people can be rehabilitated and I assume the people you see in this video have proven that they can.

The real crazies are probably in hospitals where they should be rather than prison.

One argument is America's social and economic policies breed the harsh criminals you want to see locked up. Solve the former and you'll solve the latter.

I guess I just don't believe someone who chops a couple people up with a chainsaw DESERVES rehabilitation... :disgust

After seeing what private companies have done to ordinary people, both the well off and the poor. It's staggering that anyone would allow them to control their health care.

The banks can't be trusted with or money. But insurance companies can be trusted with our health.

WTF

try 24 hours in LA

pussy lips

Hehehe. good one!

BUT, you can get a MCLOX here in Norway! No joke, the fishfillet version!

Gammalost, lutefisk and smalahove would really really really taste better than most McDonalds in the US btw! :1orglaugh

everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and usually always thinks the grass is greener on the other side

Im with you on that.


If i came across a child molester there, i would straight whoop his ass!!!