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9/11 bullshit
You know it's funny but I think I'm going to lose my job, lose respect, lose eveything just because I open My Big Mouth and express my opinion about the whole 9/11 thing.
Why? My main conetention other than any other crackpot mental stupidity is simply that those buildings didn't fall in a random, non symetrical manner... The two world trade centers didn't collapse. period. They blew up. I saw it.
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oh boy here we go again, 6 years later
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This will never stop will it?
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Dude, as long as you show me those buildings collapsing, you are showing me proof of the thing being blown. I don't care about he conspiracy theories. Those buildings were blown - no proof to the opposite. Yet.
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The fucking WTC didn't blow up. It imploded in same manner as controlled demolition.
As far as JFK goes, look at the videos of him getting shot.. He obviously got hit in the front, but the government states Oswald shot him from behind.. it's bullshit. |
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What is this Relive 9/11 Day on GFY?
Look, as I said in the other post about this a few minutes ago ... you don't know what happened, I don't know and no one else who posts here knows, that's the reality. Then again, if you actually saw it .... ;) |
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Could you tell us a little about your formal training in Engineering and maybe a little about your real life experience in a related field?
I wonder, are you more qualified than say Thomas W. Eagar, the Thomas Lord Professor of Materials Engineering and Engineering Systems, Massachusetts Institute of Technology? So again, what makes you so qualified that you can say absolutely without a shadow of a doubt that those buildings were blown up? Why would we take your simple statement of "couldn't have happened" over in depth analysis that have been performed by actual Engineers? Please tell us how you concluded something was not possible when others seemingly way more qualified have come to a completely different conclusion?
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Why does nobody talk about Building 7?
http://www.911research.com/wtc/evide..._collapse2.mpg
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Yes... blew up by 2 airplanes...
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You can start to educate yourself by reading about inertia. A 500,000ton building collapsing has too much inertia to fall anyway but straight down.
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You think every Engineer who has ever said it's possible that WTC towers collapsed was either wrong or lying? I'm curious, because I don't know, but has any acredited and formally educated Engineer anywhere EVER said that it was IMPOSSIBLE for the towers to have fallen as the official story stands? Most often it's just laymen making that assertation as is the cleary the case here. ![]()
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you missed the part where 2 planes flew into them and was witnessed by thousands of people |
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I don't claim to know all of or exactly what happened on 9/11 but you collective group of idiots that come and make claims such as "It's impossible to ..." or "... could never have happened" prove with every post that you know even less.
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I gotta say tho thats the first time I have ever even heard about building 7
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So again you're telling me about all these architects, and they're so important they deserve all capital letters, that say it's impossible for the towers to have fallen as described. Please tell us some names. Any source at all would be nice. In the mean time, here's some information you could read. http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM...agar-0112.html It's written by Thomas W. Eagar, Sc.D., P.E. He's a professor at MIT for the departments of Materials Science and Engineering, and Engineering Systems Division. He explains how he thinks the towers fell. It appears he believes it's at least possible. This is a highly educated man. So let's hear from the opposition now.
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A situation I hope never happens again..never forget but time heals all wounds
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Here's my question for all of the 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
How is it that you think our government is cunning enough, evil enough, and competent enough to blow up those buildings, kill 3000 innocent civilians, crash the planes into the buildings to make people think that's what destroyed them, and keep all of this a secret. (There hasn't been one whistleblower about this so called secret operation, but there would have been hundreds of people involved in its execution) How is it our government can pull that off, but be too incompetent to plant evidence in a desert? (WMD in Iraq) How is it the government can pull off something involving hundreds of people and keep it a secret, but the president can't get a blowjob without Matt Drudge finding out about it. ![]() |
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I watched 9/11 loose change awhile back, and have to say it had me scratching my head a bit. For a little while I was thinking what they were saying could possibly have some truth to it.
Then a couple months ago I watched a documentary on the history channel that had scientific experts discussing the 9/11 conspiracy theories, and they debunked every single one of them with ease. If you live in or get your information in a vacuum, then your view is going to be lopsided. If you only read or watch things that already agree with your point of view, and assume that anyone who disagrees has been bought or is controlled by the government, then of course you're going to believe in conspiracy theories. If you listen to both sides of the argument with an open mind, and apply logic and common sense, I think it's very unlikely you're going to come out on the side of the conspiracy theorists. |
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Not very promising examples of goverment cover ups, now are they?
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I also don't see how watergate, irancontra, or scandals in congress have anything to do with this conversation considering these were things the government tried to keep secret and failed at, and the public now knows everything that happened. Also, whitewater wasn't a scandal in any way, shape, or form....the Clintons lost money on a land investment, and the republicans spent alot of time and money investigating it....big whoop I can't speak to the other 3 because I've never spent any considerable amount of time in an aluminum foil hat.....so if you could please just stick to the topic at hand it would make you seem like less of a lunatic. ![]() |
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The history channel just had a two hour special last week and debunked all the theories and proved only the planes caused the collapse. |
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Yes a big maybe...also, if the JFK assasination was an inside job, at most a handful of people knew about it, which makes the odds of keeping it a secret alot better.
If 9/11 was an inside job then you're talking hundreds of people keeping something a secret. I seriously doubt that's possible in this day and age. |
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Did you know that George Bush's grandfather Prescott Bush financed Adolph Hitler's rise to power starting in 1923.
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Carlyle Corporation... Both George H Bush & Bin Laden were investors.
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George W Bush = owner of Arbusto Energy which was funded with $50,000 by Texas investment banker James R. Bath who was also the U.S. investment counselor for the bin Laden family
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according to a Sept. 19, 2001 Wall Street Journal story - a joint venture in which the bin Laden family joined with the construction firm H.C. Price. A researcher named "Phoenix," writing for the Internet news site Rumor Mills News Agency located at www.rumormillnews.com, reported that Price subsequently changed its name to Bredero Shaw, Inc. and is now owned by a subsidiary of the Halliburton Corporation, Dresser Industries. It was Dresser industries that gave George H.W. Bush his first post war job in 1948. A check of the relevant corporate web sites has confirmed this.
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![]() Also, when throwing out statements like Prescott Bush financed Adolf Hitler it helps to quote a source. Since you think 9/11 was an inside job you're not doing very well in the credibility department and I'm not going to believe everything you say just because you say it. Also, I don't think a news site called "rumor mill news" is the greatest source to be using when trying to deal in facts.....mmmkay? |
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George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was the Managing Director of the investment bank Brown Brothers, Harriman from the 1920s through the 1940s. It was Brown Brothers, in conjunction with Averell Harriman, the Rockefeller family, Standard Oil, the DuPonts, the Morgans and the Fords who served as the principal funding arm in helping to finance Adolph Hitler's rise to power starting in 1923. This included direct funding for the SS and SA channeled through a variety of German firms. Prescott Bush, through associations with the Hamburg-Amerika Steamship line, Nazi banker Fritz Thyssen (pronounced Tee-sen), Standard Oil of Germany, The German Steel Trust (founded by Dillon Read founder, Clarence Dillon), and I.G. Farben, used the Union Bank Corporation to funnel vast quantities of money to the Nazis and to manage their American interests. The profits from those investments came back to Bush allies on Wall Street. Thyssen is universally regarded as having been Hitler's private banker and ultimate owner of the Union Bank Corporation.
Early support for Hitler came from Prescott Bush through the Hamburg-Amerika Steamship line -- also funded by Brown Bothers -- that funneled large sums of money and weapons to Hitler's storm troopers in the 1920s. According to Tarpley and Chaitkin, "In May 1933, just after the Hitler regime was consolidated, an agreement was reached in Berlin for the coordination of all Nazi commerce with the U.S.A. The Harriman International Company... was to head a syndicate of 150 firms and individuals, to conduct all exports from Hitler Germany to the United States." Furthermore, a 1942 U.S. government investigative report that surfaced during 1945 Senate hearings found that the Union Bank, with Prescott Bush on the board, was an "interlocking concern" with the German Steel Trust that had produced: - 50.8% of Nazi Germany's pig iron - 41.4% of Nazi Germany's universal plate - 36% of Nazi Germany's heavy plate - 38.5% of Nazi Germany's galvanized sheet - 45.5% of Nazi Germany's pipes and tubes - 22.1% of Nazi Germany's wire - 35% of Nazi Germany's explosives The business relationships established by Bush in 1923 continued even after the war started until they became so offensive and overt as to warrant seizure by the U.S. government under the Trading with the Enemy Act in 1942. In 1942, "Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares... "... all of which shares are held for the benefit of... members of the Thyssen family, [and] is property of nationals... of a designated enemy country." "On October 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation." "Nazi interests in the Silesian-American Corporation, long managed by Prescott Bush and his father in law George Herbert Walker, were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act on Nov. 17, 1942..." These seizures of Bush businesses were reported in a number of American papers including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal. Prescott Bush went on to become an influential Republican Senator from Connecticut who went on to be a regular golfing partner of President Dwight Eisenhower. His attorneys were the lawyers John Foster and Allen Dulles, the later became the CIA Director under Eisenhower. |
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