according to a Sept. 19, 2001 Wall Street Journal story - a joint venture in which the bin Laden family joined with the construction firm H.C. Price. A researcher named "Phoenix," writing for the Internet news site Rumor Mills News Agency located at www.rumormillnews.com, reported that Price subsequently changed its name to Bredero Shaw, Inc. and is now owned by a subsidiary of the Halliburton Corporation, Dresser Industries. It was Dresser industries that gave George H.W. Bush his first post war job in 1948. A check of the relevant corporate web sites has confirmed this.

So Dick Cheney attacked us on 9/11?

Get to the point man....you're telling me halliburton wants to build a pipeline and I'm wondering what that has to do with the discussion about 9/11

Wow so a Texas oil family and a member of the Saudi royal family (who was also our ally before the 1st Iraq war) knew alot of the same people, and invested in the same companies.....and that proves that 9/11 was an inside job? :helpme

Also, when throwing out statements like Prescott Bush financed Adolf Hitler it helps to quote a source. Since you think 9/11 was an inside job you're not doing very well in the credibility department and I'm not going to believe everything you say just because you say it.

Also, I don't think a news site called "rumor mill news" is the greatest source to be using when trying to deal in facts.....mmmkay?

George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush, was the Managing Director of the investment bank Brown Brothers, Harriman from the 1920s through the 1940s. It was Brown Brothers, in conjunction with Averell Harriman, the Rockefeller family, Standard Oil, the DuPonts, the Morgans and the Fords who served as the principal funding arm in helping to finance Adolph Hitler's rise to power starting in 1923. This included direct funding for the SS and SA channeled through a variety of German firms. Prescott Bush, through associations with the Hamburg-Amerika Steamship line, Nazi banker Fritz Thyssen (pronounced Tee-sen), Standard Oil of Germany, The German Steel Trust (founded by Dillon Read founder, Clarence Dillon), and I.G. Farben, used the Union Bank Corporation to funnel vast quantities of money to the Nazis and to manage their American interests. The profits from those investments came back to Bush allies on Wall Street. Thyssen is universally regarded as having been Hitler's private banker and ultimate owner of the Union Bank Corporation.

Early support for Hitler came from Prescott Bush through the Hamburg-Amerika Steamship line -- also funded by Brown Bothers -- that funneled large sums of money and weapons to Hitler's storm troopers in the 1920s.

According to Tarpley and Chaitkin, "In May 1933, just after the Hitler regime was consolidated, an agreement was reached in Berlin for the coordination of all Nazi commerce with the U.S.A. The Harriman International Company... was to head a syndicate of 150 firms and individuals, to conduct all exports from Hitler Germany to the United States."

Furthermore, a 1942 U.S. government investigative report that surfaced during 1945 Senate hearings found that the Union Bank, with Prescott Bush on the board, was an "interlocking concern" with the German Steel Trust that had produced:

- 50.8% of Nazi Germany's pig iron

- 41.4% of Nazi Germany's universal plate

- 36% of Nazi Germany's heavy plate

- 38.5% of Nazi Germany's galvanized sheet

- 45.5% of Nazi Germany's pipes and tubes

- 22.1% of Nazi Germany's wire

- 35% of Nazi Germany's explosives

The business relationships established by Bush in 1923 continued even after the war started until they became so offensive and overt as to warrant seizure by the U.S. government under the Trading with the Enemy Act in 1942.

In 1942, "Under the Trading with the Enemy Act, the government took over Union Banking Corporation, in which Bush was a director. The U.S. Alien Property Custodian seized Union Banking Corp.'s stock shares...

"... all of which shares are held for the benefit of... members of the Thyssen family, [and] is property of nationals... of a designated enemy country."

"On October 28, the government issued orders seizing two Nazi front organizations run by the Bush-Harriman bank: the Holland-American Trading Corporation and the Seamless Steel Equipment Corporation."

"Nazi interests in the Silesian-American Corporation, long managed by Prescott Bush and his father in law George Herbert Walker, were seized under the Trading with the Enemy Act on Nov. 17, 1942..." These seizures of Bush businesses were reported in a number of American papers including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal.

Prescott Bush went on to become an influential Republican Senator from Connecticut who went on to be a regular golfing partner of President Dwight Eisenhower. His attorneys were the lawyers John Foster and Allen Dulles, the later became the CIA Director under Eisenhower.

Here's where all that info comes from.

http://www.copvcia.com/

^--- FTW! :thumbsup

Everything else aside, I would really like to have seen someone ask serious questions about Silverstein's interview. Maybe with the same zeal 60 minutes would go after a used car dealer.

They do:

http://www.debunking911.com/pull.htm

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IwdD6ERutEI

There you go.

Already been done... by "pull it" he meant for the firemen to leave the building, not for a team to blow it up...

"pull it" = get the fuck out of there

over 50 9/11 bullshits :-)

Joe Kennedy made 500 million dealing with Hitler and the Germans in the 1920's and 1930's but this doesn't mean he was for burning Jews in Ovens and making Lampshades out of their skin !

Remember. the US never knew about what Hitler and the SS was doing until "AFTER" the war !

Check the date on his creepy speech and look in to to his eyes.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo

If that doesn't prove it to you non believers there is no hope for us.

I agree, They were blown up by USA military forces.

http://cache.eb.com/eb/image?id=70000&rendTypeId=4

If they did they would certainly be putting their careers on the line (like this guy is), and rightly so. To openly spout off something like that one best have some unequivocal data to support it otherwise they'd just be supporting and furthering conpspiracy theories.

Not here to argue that point as it's another back & forth deal...

But I find it strange that he would use that term instead of a common term such as, 'evacuate'...

I've never heard the term, "pull it" used to mean evacuate..

actually., next he will be stating the cia has hidden explosives in ALL skyskrapers to protect neighboring buildings in case of a potential collapse, the heat indicated to the bombs cpu controllers to implode and crush all below

hummm... don't now, but pull OUT seems more appropriate ... but whatever spins ....

I would have to say that they probably did not come to that conclusion. They were told what to say and they said it. Just like the eyewitnesses to united 93 getting shot down. People lived about a mile from the crash site and the ones who claim they saw it all have the same exact story. "I saw 2 planes flying low to the ground right behind it and the tail end of it was on fire and then all of a sudden, boom! I assume thats when the plane actually crashed into the ground." FBI has told them "No, that's not what happend...the plane(s) you saw were actually 3,000 feet up in the air taking pictures of the crash site."

If you say it, it must be true ....

Oh, BTW, it is not from the rumor mills ....

Same shit as saying G.W.Bush knew nothing about the Valerie Plame CIA outing :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Here is a great but long video for you all to watch:

http://zeitgeistmovie.com/

No controlled demolition??? Why did people working in the basement get crushed...why did some of them miraculously loose legs and arms? Explosion in the basement my friends....

Several firefighters and people on the streets ALL say they heard several explosions, again, SEVERAL explosions. I'm by far no expert, but no one to this day has explained the reason behind all those 'smaller' explosions busting out of windows that were 40 floors down from the where the planes actually hit.

:thumbsup

Funny thing is a lot of demolitions experts have been consulted and they say that it was done with set charges.

The CIA is a terrorist organization. Period.

You summed it all up right here. These left wingers see what they want to see because of a hatred for a president. "I hate Bush", i.e, he must be an evil mastermind who killed 3,000 Americans.

This is the first time two skyscrapers were struck by jet aircraft that damaged and burned the structure enough to make them collapse. They believe they are experts on such events and know which way debris should fall and how fast metal and concrete should make it to the ground. They are the worst incarnation of a know-it-all assholes. That guy in the office who thinks he's an expert at everything and you always want to punch him in his fucking face.

You're cheering/hoping for another 9/11?

Really? Who?

So they're saying that this could have been rigged in downtown New York in a busy office center, when the largest controlled demo ever done is 6 times smaller than this job?

Wow, you're an idiot.

Who doesn't? :pimp (outside the nazi empire)

lol... oh man... omg architects?

wow architects are saying that? Dude, clearly that creatine has gone right to your brain. WTF does an architect know about physics and engineering?

Architects draw pictures dumb-ass, they say "Oh this looks pretty, mr. engineer can you build it for me"

Jesus christ don't open your mouth if you are just going to spew stupidity for fuck sakes.

P.S. Im sure the FBI would love to know about your "there will be more attacks in '08" statement... are you saying you have knowledge of this? because that's what it sounds like to me - idiot.

yawn. :)

These conspiracy theorists are like the Borg. Each week a new assimilated drone appears saying "what about Building 7"...

https://youtube.com/watch?v=iroOdvjOK8k
https://youtube.com/watch?v=7LPbXaZAKNI&feature=related
https://youtube.com/watch?v=VhiEAn6RCFA&feature=related

It is impossible to argue with true believers.

I am pretty sure it was "Phoenix" on here who dismissed the entire Popular Mechanics report filled with dozens of respected experts because one of the reporters was a brother-in-law of someone in Cheney's office. And in this thread another simpleton sees conspiracy because Bush and Bin Laden family happen to be investors in the same company.

It's like banging your head against the wall.

[QUOTE=hershie;13410184]It is impossible to argue with true believers.

I am pretty sure it was "Phoenix" on here who dismissed the entire Popular Mechanics report filled with dozens of respected experts because one of the reporters was a brother-in-law of someone in Cheney's office. And in this thread another simpleton sees conspiracy because Bush and Bin Laden family happen to be investors in the same company.

It's like banging your head against the wall.[/QUOTE

quoted for truth!:thumbsup

Just curious - where do you live?


Mods - shouldn't this guy be banned for wishing death upon Americans?

SO Engineers from all over the world with no ties to the US goverment were simply told to say something and they all fell in line? Do you really believe that?

So here were are at 2, almost 3 pages and still no names.

Can somebody please post just one name of one acredited expert that says the towers could NOT have fallen as described without explosives.

Note, they don't have to know exactly what did happen. I just want to see someone say the official story could NOT have happened.

Anyone? Anyone? Bueller?

No point to do that ... Whatever name brought in would be wipped off the table without any consideration ...
But if you feel like it, check out the 9-11 commission report ...

DISCLAIMER: I do not believe in these theories of the gov involved in the attacks.
I do believe that the gov was careless in preventing them, and was fast to use those attacks for their war agenda.