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  • kenny
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    Why do people believe in God?

    Everytime I get into a conversation about God with somebody debating Gods existence, their only defense agaisnt my concrete solid evidence that point away from things that the bible says, is your going to burn in hell for thinking that way.
    All of science point away from God, if there is a God he sure in the hell isnt doing anything except for putting people in hell for not believing in him. I believe the bible is nothing more then a collection of stories that was used as a tool to teach primative society basic morals and its still used today, none of that shit happened, am I wrong?
    Last edited by kenny; 09-22-2002, 05:58 PM.
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    • quiet
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        • Brown Bear
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          Originally posted by kenny
          Everytime I get into a conversation about God with somebody debating Gods existence, their only defense to my concrete solid evidence that point away from things that the bible says is your going to burn in hell for thinking that way.
          All science points away from God, if there is a God he sure in the hell isnt doing anything except for putting people in hell for not believing in him. I believe the bible is nothing more then a collection of stories that was used as a tool to teach primative society basic morals and its still used today, none of that shit happened, am I wrong?
          I agree, but we still are a primitive society.
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            • RogerV
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              I think it gives people hope and a sense of belonging.

              Everyone needs something to believe in when times get hard.

              Most people are followers and its a great way to control population in large numbers.
              Its also big buisiness.

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                • Jer
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                  Because GOD IS BRAZILIAN.

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                    • quiet
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                      btw, god and religion are two completely different concepts. in many circumstances, they are actually in opposition with eachother...

                      but why bother discussing
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                        • kenny
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                          Originally posted by quiet
                          btw, god and religion are two completely different concepts. in many circumstances, they are actually in opposition with eachother...

                          but why bother discussing

                          How is it that God is a completely different concept then religion, wasnt religion built around God?
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                            • JTW
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                              Maybe it is a necessary evil. Is it really so bad? It makes people feel better to believe there is someone out there who loves them is watching over them. If someone has a crummy life and their belief in God or some afterlife gives them hope and inspiration to carry on through tough times, I am not going to take that away from them.

                              I do believe in God, just not the guy you read about in the Bible, etc. I think religions have customized him to suit their own needs.

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                                • RogerV
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                                  We have been taught that their is a God or Higher being since we were born.
                                  Try raising someone in a box or isolate them from society and see if he or she believes there is a god.

                                  It gives us comfort since we are here for such a short time. And it gives us reason to live and keep going.

                                  Last edited by RogerV; 09-22-2002, 06:01 PM.

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                                    • cosis
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                                      weak minded people need to believe in God

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                                        • quiet
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                                          Originally posted by kenny



                                          How is it that God is a completely different concept then religion, wasnt religion built around God?
                                          i really don't feel like getting into this right now, but...

                                          you should read some Kierkegaard. Particularly 'Fear and Trembling'. It's pretty obtuse reading - but there is something to be learned from it.

                                          A full-on christian - yet he thinks religion, especially the church, takes away from any relationship you might have with god.

                                          Regardless, god can mean many things - high mathematics, higher physics, maybe simply what caused a big bang to occur, etc, etc, etc. and have absolutely nothing to do with organized religion, or 'church'.

                                          "Wherever there is a crowd there is untruth."
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                                                    • mijoon
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                                                      Originally posted by cosis
                                                      weak minded people need to believe in God
                                                      Weak minded people need to denigrade those who have different opinions than them .
                                                      Einstein , Newton and many other great scientists believed in God . Perhaps some of the people posting in this thread are smarter then these people , but I am not . There have been geniuses on both sides of the question .

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                                                        • DarkestWeb
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                                                          That's why I don't get into those discussions. People can believe what they like as long as they don't push it on others.
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                                                            • evildick
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                                                                • mijoon
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                                                                  Originally posted by DarkestWeb
                                                                  That's why I don't get into those discussions. People can believe what they like as long as they don't push it on others.
                                                                  Right.It's rare that people will have a constructive discussion on the matter . It almost always degenerates into the old "people who think like me are good ,smart etc. , everyone else is bad, stupid etc." I don't know why I wasted my time reading this thread .
                                                                  I'm out of here .....

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                                                                    • knighthunter
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                                                                      I agree that ppl should be allowed to make their own choices and not be forced into believing in something.

                                                                      I think the belief of god feels the fear of what happens after you die....no one knows and humans fear the unknown...

                                                                      Example, if aliens exsist and they have visited this planet and the government knows....why would they keep it from the rest of us...because it might put the planet into chaos or it might make the ppl of this planet reallize there is more out there...and since the government doesnt know....they hide it....

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                                                                        • XXXManager
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                                                                          I indeed believe that arguing about god is ilogical, but dude - you ain't using you logic too much as well...
                                                                          You argument that all "evidence" in science point against the existance of god is a very silly point.
                                                                          1. The belief in god is longer, more supported by the masses, more understood by people and - proven atleast as good as things like the big-bang.
                                                                          2. Even "science" is disproved by science MANY times
                                                                          3. Modern cience is based on axioms and "believes". Saying science "proves" things is ilogical.
                                                                          4. If god exists, that sceince is his creation, including the disproving of god itself.
                                                                          5. I wouldn't trust scientist with nothing. Look what happend to Apollo 13, Dolly's predacecors, Hiroshima/Nagasaki and Colgete/Palmolive products...
                                                                          6. Atleast god does'nt do tests on bunnies and monkeys for the sole purpose of manufacturing shampoo.

                                                                          I'll grant you that.. Believing in god, thinking he is so almighty and great, and then saying all he cares about is what people think of him... That sounds rediculous and pathetic..
                                                                          BUT - after all, they say.... GOD WORKS IN MISTERIOUS WAYS

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                                                                                • boobychuckers
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                                                                                  Because you are weak and you will not always be strong..you will age like everyone else and probably die of some disease-then you will have a different viewpoint of God. God looks strong in comparison to the frailty of man.

                                                                                  The twenties are the age of the will. The forties are the age of reason.

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                                                                                      Originally posted by Fletch XXX
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                                                                                      I think its quite pathetic though that Satan holds a plastic sword and that their symbol is a goat confined to a star

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                                                                                        • Joe Sixpack
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                                                                                          Originally posted by XXXManager
                                                                                          1. The belief in god is longer, more supported by the masses, more understood by people and - proven atleast as good as things like the big-bang.

                                                                                          Yes, a belief in "god" is more understood by people and that's THE reason why its a popular view. Understanding science and its methods takes effort, a belief in "god" requires none. And no, its not proven "at least as good as things like the big bang". It has been established that all celestial bodies are moving away from a central point in the universe.


                                                                                          2. Even "science" is disproved by science MANY times

                                                                                          That's because scientific hypothesis are testable and science itself is self-correcting.

                                                                                          3. Modern cience is based on axioms and "believes". Saying science "proves" things is ilogical.

                                                                                          Science "believes" nothing. Everything in science is tentative. Even gravity is not "proven" it just hasn't been falsified.


                                                                                          4. If god exists, that sceince is his creation, including the disproving of god itself.

                                                                                          This makes no sense.

                                                                                          5. I wouldn't trust scientist with nothing. Look what happend to Apollo 13, Dolly's predacecors, Hiroshima/Nagasaki and Colgete/Palmolive products...

                                                                                          Apollo 13? Huh? The US government ordered the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagaskai, not scientists.

                                                                                          6. Atleast god does'nt do tests on bunnies and monkeys for the sole purpose of manufacturing shampoo.

                                                                                          It's corporations that pay for this research. Even scientists need to earn a living. If you want to blame someone, why not blame whoever is reponsible for paying for this shit in the first place.

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                                                                                            • playa
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                                                                                              just remember that everyone believes in God just before they die

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                                                                                                • galleryseek
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                                                                                                  like i've said in other related posts... we don't know shit. to condemn someone for believing in god is fucking stupid. and the same applies for condemning another for not believing in god. you people are hilarious. we DONT KNOW. we can only ASSUME. which means pointing the finger at someone else for their beliefs must mean you THINK you KNOW.. and if you THINK YOU KNOW.. you basically don't know shit.

                                                                                                  try and think about this... the big bang theory... obviously there had to be SOMETHING before the big bang theory right? or else what could have created the matter? i ASSUME it is impossible. it just doesn't make any sense.

                                                                                                  on the other hand we have the bible.. which has been translated and re-translated, blah blah blah... even from the original scripts translated properly, they're very much DIFFERENT. and whos to say that this mysterious man actually existed? look how shitty the world is, yet he loves us? doesn't make sense either.

                                                                                                  so i position my beliefs between both of those ideas... the medium. which is basically agnostic. i believe in a higher power, but i dont know what it is. something that is obviously beyond our comprehension.

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                                                                                                    • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                      Originally posted by XXXManager

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                                                                                                      I think its quite pathetic though that Satan holds a plastic sword and that their symbol is a goat confined to a star
                                                                                                      That sword isnt plastic.

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                                                                                                        • Joe Sixpack
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                                                                                                          Originally posted by playa
                                                                                                          just remember that everyone believes in God just before they die
                                                                                                          No they don't. Not all of 'em.

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                                                                                                            • playa
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                                                                                                              Originally posted by Joe Sixpack

                                                                                                              No they don't. Not all of 'em.
                                                                                                              The Athiest

                                                                                                              An atheist was taking a walk through the woods, admiring all that the "accident of evolution" had created. "What majestic trees! What powerful rivers! What beautiful animals!" he said to himself.

                                                                                                              As he was walking along the river he heard rustling in the bushes. As he turned, he saw a 7-foot grizzly charging him. He ran as fast as he could up the path. He looked over his shoulder and saw that the bear was closing in. He tried to run faster, so scared that tears were coming to his eyes. He looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer. His heart was pumping frantically as he tried to run faster, but he tripped and fell. He rolled over to pick himself up and saw the bear right on top of him raising his paw to kill him.

                                                                                                              At that instant he cried out "Oh my God" Just then, time stopped. The bear froze, the forest was silent, the river even stopped. A bright light shone on the man, and a voice came out of the sky saying, "You deny my existence all these years, teach others I don't exist and credit my creation to a cosmic accident and now you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Am I to count you as a believer?

                                                                                                              The atheist, ever proud, looked to the light and said, "It would be hypocritical to ask to be a Christian after all these years, but
                                                                                                              could you make the bear a Christian?"

                                                                                                              "Very well," said the voice. As the light went out, the river ran, and the sounds of the forest continued, the bear put his paw down. The bear then brought both paws together, bowed his head and said:

                                                                                                              "Lord thank you for this food which I am about to receive."



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                                                                                                                  How does that old joke prove your point?

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                                                                                                                      I love these threads. brings me to my favorite quote. Ever.

                                                                                                                      As I sit here with hardbound vintage copies of some of the darkest books ever written around me. In volumes.

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                                                                                                                        • TheApostate
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                                                                                                                          I think that people who have to post on a message board to get support for their disbelief in God are pretty damn insecure in that disbelief.

                                                                                                                          I believe that I know there is a God.

                                                                                                                          If you don't believe there is a God, hey, knock yourself out.

                                                                                                                          I don't go starting threads about how stupid people are because they don't believe in God. I am secure in my belief, so I don't have to start threads in places like this to get support for my belief.

                                                                                                                          Who's the weak-minded one needing a crutch?
                                                                                                                          Sure as hell isn't me.

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                                                                                                                            • UnseenWorld
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                                                                                                                              Originally posted by kenny



                                                                                                                              How is it that God is a completely different concept then religion, wasnt religion built around God?
                                                                                                                              A religion is a set of beliefs about origins and ethics which are believed purely on faith.

                                                                                                                              God is defined in various ways, but mostly as an all-powerful, all-seeing/knowing being.

                                                                                                                              Some religions, like Buddhism (in its original form) had no deity whatsoever, and was primarily a set of beliefs about how to live a life devoid of unhappiness and conflict. Confucianism really is a set of laws about how to behave and how to have a well-structured society. Judaism, while believing in God, is also a law-based religion.

                                                                                                                              Taoism also has no God, and is oriented toward how to avoid conflict by emulating the female to counterbalance the mostly male-dominated world.

                                                                                                                              God is optional in religion.
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                                                                                                                                • fnet
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                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by Fletch XXX


                                                                                                                                  That sword isnt plastic.

                                                                                                                                  Anton LaVey had some of the coolest collections of things, including rare synthesizers and vintage organs from around the world.

                                                                                                                                  Collector of many things until his untimely death.

                                                                                                                                  ;)
                                                                                                                                  Did that museum of curious devices ever survive? I think my grandpa sold him one or two of those at some point.
                                                                                                                                  the sound of one hand googlewhacking

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                                                                                                                                    • kenny
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                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by TheApostate
                                                                                                                                      I think that people who have to post on a message board to get support for their disbelief in God are pretty damn insecure in that disbelief.

                                                                                                                                      I believe that I know there is a God.

                                                                                                                                      If you don't believe there is a God, hey, knock yourself out.

                                                                                                                                      I don't go starting threads about how stupid people are because they don't believe in God. I am secure in my belief, so I don't have to start threads in places like this to get support for my belief.

                                                                                                                                      Who's the weak-minded one needing a crutch?
                                                                                                                                      Sure as hell isn't me.
                                                                                                                                      These thread is a topic just like the 1000's of other threads on this board, and I dont think that I am the one who sounds insecure
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                                                                                                                                        • Fletch XXX
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                                                                                                                                          The Christ story is the basic "3 day Resurrection God Story."

                                                                                                                                          The story of Osirus and Isis from the Egyptians consists of the same elements. The Resurrection God.

                                                                                                                                          Rule #1: your messiah cannot share the same history as a man.


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                                                                                                                                                      One of the things I find interesting is where the Bible orginated. Isreal. Jerusalem, Jordan, yadayada.. This part of europe is not exactly the most respected part of the world at the moment.

                                                                                                                                                      It wouldnt suprise me if the Jesus depicted in the bible was actually black?

                                                                                                                                                      <controversy>
                                                                                                                                                      Why would we base our life, law and culture on some text that came out of a country containing a thick bunch of ragheads?
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                                                                                                                                                      Just a thought.

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                                                                                                                                                        • XXXManager
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                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Joe Sixpack
                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by XXXManager
                                                                                                                                                          1. The belief in god is longer, more supported by the masses, more understood by people and - proven atleast as good as things like the big-bang.

                                                                                                                                                          Yes, a belief in "god" is more understood by people and that's THE reason why its a popular view. Understanding science and its methods takes effort, a belief in "god" requires none. And no, its not proven "at least as good as things like the big bang". It has been established that all celestial bodies are moving away from a central point in the universe.

                                                                                                                                                          "established"? lol. for a creature who never left earth you seem to be quite sure of that. Tell me? if there is a center of the universe - there is an end to it (otherwise there would be no center) [don't argue about that because its the common hypothesis today]. AND as the universe expands slower than the speed of light [No need to object that - this is also the common scientific hypothesis]. SO... what happens when you cross that end with a very fast spaceship? ha? - You may be looking for a scientific answer - but remember - thats the same science that has no cure for common flew.

                                                                                                                                                          2. Even "science" is disproved by science MANY times

                                                                                                                                                          That's because scientific hypothesis are testable and science itself is self-correcting.

                                                                                                                                                          I dont care why is that. Im just saying - relying on something that disapproves itself to disapprove something else is like sticking to a version of your story even if your evidence seem to become irellevalt. Remember - I'm not saying god therefore must exists - I'm saying your method of disproving it is too fragile

                                                                                                                                                          3. Modern cience is based on axioms and "believes". Saying science "proves" things is ilogical.

                                                                                                                                                          Science "believes" nothing. Everything in science is tentative. Even gravity is not "proven" it just hasn't been falsified.
                                                                                                                                                          [/B]WHAT??? Science "believes" nothing??? Tell me... You know gravity, right? Why is there gravity? Something to do with the mass of big objects right? Have you got a proof for that? An absolute explanation?? (Don't bother to admit that you don't).. So you say if not disproved and falsified - it means its valid and true?? Fine. Then by the same logic you proved god exists!

                                                                                                                                                          4. If god exists, that sceince is his creation, including the disproving of god itself.

                                                                                                                                                          This makes no sense.

                                                                                                                                                          So does everything with god. Basically the logic in it says - if god exists and what is said about him being allmighty is true, then trusting a little puny thing called science that is the same creation of that great god (like junkfood) prooves nothing because it may very well be a false method for proving things, created by god

                                                                                                                                                          5. I wouldn't trust scientist with nothing. Look what happend to Apollo 13, Dolly's predacecors, Hiroshima/Nagasaki and Colgete/Palmolive products...

                                                                                                                                                          Apollo 13? Huh? The US government ordered the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagaskai, not scientists.

                                                                                                                                                          Apollo 13 was an attempt of man to land on the mood. See the movie and see that scientists can't even manage that little thing, so how do you expect them to disprove god?
                                                                                                                                                          A-Bomb as many other "good" inventions is the creation of scientists. I don't care who ordered it. Some things in science are bad. And as sting says "Never saw a miracle of science, that didn't turn from bless into a curse"

                                                                                                                                                          6. Atleast god does'nt do tests on bunnies and monkeys for the sole purpose of manufacturing shampoo.

                                                                                                                                                          It's corporations that pay for this research. Even scientists need to earn a living. If you want to blame someone, why not blame whoever is reponsible for paying for this shit in the first place.

                                                                                                                                                          Maybe someone payed them to disprove god

                                                                                                                                                          To summarize it all - you seem to have too much confidence in science while even scientists has less I suspect. Science lacks answers of some key answers humans have and although its responsible for alot of the advancement we had over the years it is based on assumptions that are not proven and therefore should be regarded as heresay only!
                                                                                                                                                          (Keep in mind, that its not science that did all that - its scientists)

                                                                                                                                                          Think about it

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                                                                                                                                                            • drumsicle
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                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              I'm told there are no atheists in foxholes.
                                                                                                                                                              Another worthless post?

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                                                                                                                                                                • XXXManager
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                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by pentae
                                                                                                                                                                  escortbiz thats a classic
                                                                                                                                                                  One of the things I find interesting is where the Bible orginated. Isreal. Jerusalem, Jordan, yadayada.. This part of europe is not exactly the most respected part of the world at the moment.
                                                                                                                                                                  It wouldnt suprise me if the Jesus depicted in the bible was actually black?
                                                                                                                                                                  <controversy>
                                                                                                                                                                  Why would we base our life, law and culture on some text that came out of a country containing a thick bunch of ragheads?
                                                                                                                                                                  </controversy>
                                                                                                                                                                  Just a thought.
                                                                                                                                                                  You prefer we base out life on a culture of a bunch of criminals that were sent to a penalize colony from GB?
                                                                                                                                                                  Now that don't sound too smart - right? good... Now reread your own text.
                                                                                                                                                                  (some people make me believe there is no god just because there are too dumb to be created by a supreme diety)

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                                                                                                                                                                    • XXXManager
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                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by galleryseek
                                                                                                                                                                      like i've said in other related posts... we don't know shit. to condemn someone for believing in god is fucking stupid. and the same applies for condemning another for not believing in god. you people are hilarious. we DONT KNOW. we can only ASSUME. which means pointing the finger at someone else for their beliefs must mean you THINK you KNOW.. and if you THINK YOU KNOW.. you basically don't know shit.

                                                                                                                                                                      try and think about this... the big bang theory... obviously there had to be SOMETHING before the big bang theory right? or else what could have created the matter? i ASSUME it is impossible. it just doesn't make any sense.

                                                                                                                                                                      on the other hand we have the bible.. which has been translated and re-translated, blah blah blah... even from the original scripts translated properly, they're very much DIFFERENT. and whos to say that this mysterious man actually existed? look how shitty the world is, yet he loves us? doesn't make sense either.

                                                                                                                                                                      so i position my beliefs between both of those ideas... the medium. which is basically agnostic. i believe in a higher power, but i dont know what it is. something that is obviously beyond our comprehension.
                                                                                                                                                                      Spoken like a true believer
                                                                                                                                                                      BUT - btw - The bible don't say god loves humans (or for that matter - the chosen people. He just chose them to be his people and he expects things from them - but its not stated he loves them. Love is a puny feeling reserved for humans
                                                                                                                                                                      I think, even christianity don't say "God loves me" they say "Jesus loves me". right?

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                                                                                                                                                                        • [Labret]
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                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Criticism from one of Gods Chosen. Oh the irony.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • GFED
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                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Who else can you blame everything on?
                                                                                                                                                                              https://www.flow.page/savethechildren

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                                                                                                                                                                                • [Labret]
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                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by XXXManager


                                                                                                                                                                                  Spoken like a true believer
                                                                                                                                                                                  BUT - btw - The bible don't say god loves humans (or for that matter - the chosen people. He just chose them to be his people and he expects things from them - but its not stated he loves them. Love is a puny feeling reserved for humans


                                                                                                                                                                                  Deut 7 and 8

                                                                                                                                                                                  7- The Lord did not set his love upon you, nor choose you, because ye were more in number than any people; for ye were the fewest of all people:
                                                                                                                                                                                  8- But because the Lord loved you, and because he would keep the oath which he had sworn unto your fathers




                                                                                                                                                                                  I think, even christianity don't say "God loves me" they say "Jesus loves me". right?
                                                                                                                                                                                  For most Christians, Jesus is God

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                                                                                                                                                                                    • XXXManager
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                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Ok... Ok...
                                                                                                                                                                                      I admit...
                                                                                                                                                                                      God had his Kitsch gushy moments
                                                                                                                                                                                      After all, he is only a god

                                                                                                                                                                                      Well, I guess god loves me. Well - what can I do
                                                                                                                                                                                      Last edited by XXXManager; 09-23-2002, 05:28 AM.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Bree
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                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Because gods are great ... oh I mean dogs







                                                                                                                                                                                          um.. God, you're pretty great, too... ;)

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • Voodoo
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                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              Someone mentioned earlier that we are still in a primitave society. Primitave to some degree, yes. However, evolution is always happening. My concept about God is simple.

                                                                                                                                                                                              God does not exist as it is commonly referred to as. God is not a super-powerful being. God is the collective subconscious minds and spirits of all living things. God is where you go when you dream in your sleep. God is where you are before you are born, and God is where you go when you die. That's it. God is not the "all mighty" and I most certainly do not agree that if I don't pray to it, that I will go to hell.

                                                                                                                                                                                              There is no heaven or hell. Your heaven may be my hell. I would hate to die and go to a place where everyone was preaching about God all the time. Who really cares? I'm alive, and I plan to enjoy it.

                                                                                                                                                                                              "I'm selflessly supporting the common good, but only coincidentally looking out for No.1."

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • [Labret]
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Thats called Pantheism slappy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • HQ
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                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by XXXManager
                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Even "science" is disproved by science MANY times
                                                                                                                                                                                                      5. I wouldn't trust scientist with nothing. Look what happend to Apollo 13, Dolly's predacecors, Hiroshima/Nagasaki and Colgete/Palmolive products...
                                                                                                                                                                                                      "science" is improved by science MANY times, you mean!

                                                                                                                                                                                                      ...and #5 makes no sense here. I.E. Priests have sexually abuse little boys. There are 'bad' sides to both side of this discussion.

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