Anybody heard of affiliatecheaters.com?

[Mister X]

The guy that runs this website is a fucking moron... Here's the email he sent me:

Can you explain why I can only see around 120 hits for almost a year for the following domains
LannyBarbyBlog.com
Judy-Star.com

I have removed all links to you program but would like to report you program on my AffiliateCheaters.com so I would like to hear why there have never been
any signups

http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic....com/main.html

Frank Vang

So I replied:

How about you just put ccbill.com on your affiliatecheaters.com bullshit site? We use ONLY CCBill for our affiliate program and we don't even have a secondary processor.

First thing is that you don't even provide your correct affiliate ID. Second is that you have never sent even one hit from either of the 2 domains that you mention as far as I can tell from checking referring urls in CCBill's admin.

Checking further with your CORRECT affiliate ID of xxxxxxx you have sent 61 clicks in all of 2007. Since 10/01/2006 you have sent a big 326 hits. Which sites you sent from I don't know, but none had a referrer that could be tracked.

So to answer your question: You haven't had any signups because you have shiity, almost non-existent traffic, OR because you were probably using the wrong affiliate code. Since we do not have any affiliate with CCBill ID 1498455 any clicks from that particular ID would not be tracked and any signups from that affiliate ID would not be credited.

I checked our server stats for the entire month of october 2007 and you sent 22 hits from lannybarbyblog.com to lannybarby.com from the following 6 urls..

http://www.lannybarbyblog.com http://www.lannybarbyblog.com/biography/index.html http://www.lannybarbyblog.com/free_clips/index.html http://www.lannybarbyblog.com/2007/05/lanny_barby.html http://www.lannybarbyblog.com/2007/0...barby-fre.html http://www.lannybarbyblog.com/lanny_barby/index.html

Since you didn't get any clicks tracked by CCBill you had the wrong affiliate ID. And of course you have conveniently removed the links from the 2 domains so that can't be checked.
I have attached several screenshots so if you try and call us cheaters please make sure that you use them on your shitty website.

I don't like threats or blackmail attempts. Especially when you can't even be bothered to use the correct affiliate ID. If you have any further complaints you can call up CCBill and explain to them why you think they are cheaters.

Have a nice day.

This Frank Vang guy has severe delusions of grandeur so he replied:

1498455 is the code you send for us in you affiliate newsletter. we trust our affiliate so much we should not double check if this is the right code. So congrat on lots of free traffic.

Wow. That impressed me so much that I replied:

The code is inserted by ccbill's email application automatically. We have never had an affiliate with that number. I even checked suspended affiliate accounts. Before ccbill added the thing to insert affiliate ID's we just sent with that field empty or saying "your_id_here". And every email had the warning to make sure you insert your own codes. So I find it very unlikely you got that ID # from one of our emails. I wouldn't call 22 raw hits in a month a lot of traffic either, but if you want to call it that go ahead.

The bottom line is that you screwed up your links, not us. If you weren't sure of the linking codes all you ever had to do was ask. And if you didn't know your own affiliate ID, how did you ever check your stats to find out that you hadn't had any sales? If you logged into ccbill with your main ID it shows the ID # for every affiliate program that you have under that ID and it gives you the linking codes. That sounds pretty suspicious to me.

Why don't you take responsibilty for your own mistakes instead of calling other people cheaters?

Yep 22 raw visits from his domain in a month is really a shitload of free traffic. Of course he added us to his shitty website anyway, even though he's a fucking moron that can't even get it together enough to put the right affiliate codes in his links. Seems like he has shitty almost non-existent traffic AND he used the wrong affiliate ID #.

Gets my Dipshit of the Month Award in platinum.

[GrouchyAdmin]

Oh shit, the claws and Vangs are drawn!

[spacedog]

Quite a few traffic leaks you have there..

leaks to offsite video store.. affiliate don't get credit for that, do they.

leaks to links page, not to mention the join form being in a frameset and for the one link I found where the form is not framed, the affiliate id does not pass through to form

[Tjeezers]

sponsors talking about webmasters.....Yeah this is good PR for yourself.

[Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life]

it took me a couple months to learn that i couldn't just use my original ccbill number for every link, lol. probably didn't lose all that many sales in that first two months, but you can't help feeling stupid after that...

[V_RocKs]

Why is all of the content blurry?

[Mister X]

Originally Posted by spacedog

Quite a few traffic leaks you have there..

leaks to offsite video store.. affiliate don't get credit for that, do they.

leaks to links page, not to mention the join form being in a frameset and for the one link I found where the form is not framed, the affiliate id does not pass through to form

Except for the index page there are no links to any sites outside our program. And affiliates are warned NOT to send traffic to the index page.

You are right that affiliates don't get credit for sales in video store, so I guess that's one traffic leak.

You are also correct about the frameset on the join page on judystarxxx.com... I have already fixed that. Thanks for pointing it out.

If you are familiar with CCBill you will know that the affiliate ID is in a cookie. It isn't passed directly by the signup form.

Regards

[V_RocKs]

Umm blogs have 6,000,000 Alexa ranking... perhaps that is the cake for the low hits?

[Mister X]

Originally Posted by Sex2Have

sponsors talking about webmasters.....Yeah this is good PR for yourself.

So I should just shut up and let the asshole post a bunch of lies on his shitty little site?

Yeah that's good PR.

[minusonebit]

That came up in a Google search for me the other day...

[Mister X]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

it took me a couple months to learn that i couldn't just use my original ccbill number for every link, lol. probably didn't lose all that many sales in that first two months, but you can't help feeling stupid after that...

This guy signed up in July of 2005.

[Mister X]

Originally Posted by V_RocKs

Umm blogs have 6,000,000 Alexa ranking... perhaps that is the cake for the low hits?

Google PR of zero too. A real pro this guy.

[papill0n]

Don't you just love how he lists the sites he claims are cheaters and then links to them via his referral links

[BAKO]

That guy is smoking some good shit

[Mister X]

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

Don't you just love how he lists the sites he claims are cheaters and then links to them via his referral links

Haha. Yeah I noticed that too.

[The Judge]

I'm not sure you putting his real name on a public board is very professional

[minusonebit]

Originally Posted by RageCash-Ben

Don't you just love how he lists the sites he claims are cheaters and then links to them via his referral links

Oh shit, I just noticed that. LMFAO.

[Mister X]

Originally Posted by The Judge

I'm not sure you putting his real name on a public board is very professional

Well his email address is [email protected] and he uses Vang, Inc. as the name of the sender so I'm not too worried about it. If he was trying to hide his real name he probably would choose something else as the name of his big corporation. Anyway he didn't use an alias in the email.

I did just give him a fake email address though... Even morons don't deserver spam!

Damn... I just realized that this thread might get him lots of free traffic.

[georgeyw]

Has anyone read his site?

The whole thing is him blaming sponsors for his poor conversion skills!

[The Judge]

Your sig has a trojan (click on the EX4cash Amateur Porn link).

Originally Posted by georgeyw

Has anyone read his site?

The whole thing is him blaming sponsors for his poor conversion skills!

[scottybuzz]

Originally Posted by ismokeblunts

it took me a couple months to learn that i couldn't just use my original ccbill number for every link, lol. probably didn't lose all that many sales in that first two months, but you can't help feeling stupid after that...

same here