He said

"they are getting away, im gonna shoot"

this was nothing short of premeditated murder .. he knew exactly what he was going to do from the moment he called 911

The dispatcher said cops are seconds away

he said im gonna shoot them

This was not a situation of suprise ot where it all happened so fast ...no

This man not only planed what he was going to do.... but even had a police dispatcher try to talk him out of it

how could he be anything but guilty of murder? Sounds to me like he planed the whole thing from the moment he called the police

I never said gun owbership should be outlawed.... however this thread alone serves as a prime example of why we need tougher gun control laws

I think gun ownership ship be dependant on a physc evaluation paid for by the purchaser

I mean seriously... not everyone should be allowed to own a gun

and in general... the people who argue most for gun ownership... tend to be slightly deranged

Its crazy because you have to have a mental eval to join the military and use a gun in other countries but you can be crazy as shit and own a gun in the US


I personaly feel that anyone who uses a gun for anything other than "real self defense" is an absolute coward

No he didn't. Read it again.

Again, no he didn't.

That's probably because the article is written in English and you seem to have a problem with English. Maybe there's an Ebonics translation available somewhere, dog.

None of the above was said on the link provided ........ ?

:Oh crap

Whoa there buddy, don't let the facts get in the way.

here is the audio Pink

listen to the whole thing then tell me what you think


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f3d_1195171937

well tell ya what you can bore your thieves to death telling them how we need more gun control laws and how since its just your stuff they are stealing they can go ahead and take it.

me? I prefer the more direct approach, I had a home invasion once when I first moved into this hood...guy thought I wasnt home because my car was in the shop and I didnt answer the door when he knocked.
He then proceeded to my back door where he jimmied it (sliding glass) and entered with a crowbar

Image his surprise when he turned the corner and there I was 12 feet away with a 45 pointed at his head

He was smarter than these guys though...he froze and dropped the crowbar, i made him lay opn his belly and turn his palms up, I gave him my cordless phone and dialed 911 and made him call the cops to himself

he complied, and the cops took him away had he not...the cops would still have taken him away...and I'd have had to repaint.

I live in a small community and guess what...been almost 30 years and I have yet to have another break in....word gets around huh

go ahead and bore yours to death...come into my house to take my shit, I dont care if its just a paper clip and I will kill you with no remorse whatsoever

he even says im gonna kill em

so after listening to this full recording... do you feel what this guy did was right?

I have no problem with what he did, specially if I am his neighbor...and metaphysically I am.

call me deranged or anything you want but if you are a thief...who would you rather try to victimize? Me or pussyserver?

Do you agree potential gun owners should be required to pass a mental evaluation?

I heard a man wanting to defend his neighborhood, I heard a dispatcher say he might get shot if he went outside, I heard him say it wasn't right and he wouldn't let them get away.

I heard a scared man that said they were coming at him into his yard.

We didn't hear what two criminals were saying as they cased the house and what they might do if caught, or how many homes they were going to break into. But by all means take their side.

absolutely not, not anymore than you should have a mental eval to get a drivers license or to breed

A well-regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

sounds pretty fucking plain to me

Hopefully your house will be next, let us know how that goes.

Goodnight

l-pink i bet any thief reading this thread is saying to himself..pussyserver...check

mikesouth OH HELL NO

hmm well I guess its a matter of perception

because what I heard was a man who knew exactly what he was going to do and a police dispatcher trying to stop him

...when he said you know we just passed that law...( the one that allows this sort of thing in Texas)

he let the dispatcher know his intentions

If that is what you heard... then that is what you heard

but I thinks its safe to say that most people heard exactly what was said.... :2 cents:

Don't break into people's houses and you won't have to worry about being shot by the vigilate next door with the itchy trigger finger.

I never said I didnt own a gun

I said using them on a retreating human being is a coward act

I said that people should undergo physcological evaluation in order to own a firearm

I never said I didnt own one or a suppressor

.... but I would never kill a human so easily

Perhaps when you have someone in your life that depends on you for their protection - unconditionally - (assuming you ever reach that point in life), maybe you'll understand.

Until then, might wanna avoid wearing your ignorance so prominently on your sleeve. :2 cents:

Those that have never been an unwilling part of serious crime, notice I didn't say victim, have no idea what it's like to be put on the spot. Quick overwhelming force is all that will save you. Period.

pussyserver NEVER EVER say what most people think it makes you sound like a moron...you dont speak for anyone but yourself allow everyone else to speak for themselves, they dont need you to do it for them

pussyserver is the kind of guy that gets shot with his own gun...

he has it, but hesitates to use it. thats ok pussyserver you will die but sooner or later that asshole that disarms and kills you will get around to someone like me.

No Mike I dont speak for everyone


.... But I do know I represent the majority of Americans in being civil and restrained when it comes to killing human beings

.... the fact that you could even consider thinking otherwise shows just how crazy you realy are:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

glad to not know ya LMAO


take a double dose and come back later


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I may be crazy but I guarantee you one thing....YOU are a much easier target than I am, stay weak dude...the predators need weak individuals

you can call it exercizing restraint but if you are in my home without an invite my restraint was gone the instant you stepped inside. And what little brain function you have is going to be interrupted by my bullet making its way through your head

Retreating? He said they were coming into his yard, that would be toward him. Two young fit criminals and an old man defending property trying to do the right thing.

I feel sorry for the guy, minding his own business and scum change his life forever.

those guys were not in his home

were across the street

were trying to get away

10 second pause before you heard the third shot...

murder


but again we are all entitled to our opinion

this country is beyond fucked:2 cents:

Hmmm I think Im gonna go shoot tomorrow.

practice some with moving targets

They were in the common side yard. NOT across the street. They were advancing into the man's yard after climbing out a window. Two criminals advancing on an old man trying to defend his neighbors property.

The burglars were out of the house and trying to get away with the loot when they were SHOT?! Oh, the injustice of it all.

okies

opinion are like....

you know

yup and theres assholes who bend over and offer it up to anyone who wishes to take it...to avoid violence you know

and theres assholes that shoot back

Im proud to be the later

understood:)

Never regretted my move from the Peoples Republic Of Massachusetts to the great state of Texas. Glad the tough old coot blew them away. Good for him.:thumbsup

Boo-hoo to the sniveling whiners.

Damn I was hoping this would go on for at least three more posts...taking me to 1400 oh well....2 to go

hahahaha... what the fuck?


:Oh crap:Oh crap

amen :thumbsup

That is blatant murder if they were threatening him then it would have been different.Theres the law of the land and what's right and wrong and that was wrong and just killing in cold blood you have to show some restraint otherwise all you do is turn a place more into a vigiliante state.

Didn't look like a bad area on the video. Recall several months ago when a prominent doctor's house was broken into by two robbers who murdered his wife and his two children and severely wounded him. Did they live in a bad neighborhood too?

http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/07/23/hom....ap/index.html

Bottom Line, if you choose to go break into someone's home or steal the thing's outside, you no longer have to keep an eye out for the rightful owner, you now have to look out for the neighbor with a shot gun.

Frankly, I have no hard feelings for the two LOSER'S that are dead. Get a job and buy your own stuff, like most working people!

As far as the legality of what he did, it seems that he was defending his neighbor's property rather than his own property. I'm assuming the law there is clear about whether it's legal or not. Whatever the law is, it should stick, regardless of our personal feelings about his actions.

According to the Houston Chronicle the guy is a 65 year old computer tech living with his daughter and granddaughter. Guy was scared but felt it was his duty to do something as the criminals were leaving and the cops were not there yet.

Don't be silly - of course he was still in danger. His friends could have been going to get a gun or perhaps to their car to get their friends and their guns.

You could go on forever with this scenario depiciting new events leading to other new events but it does blatantly seem like pointless cold blooded murder on 2 unarmed men even so and he knows it no doubt too.

Well, what 65 year old man want's to face two "unarmed" younger men? In what a fair fight? And why should it be fair?

Really, the big question should be "why aren't we giving the homeowner the benefit of doubt"