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ProjectNaked 11-14-2007 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13374265)
Is the ground solid or is it just dirt in the bottom of the hole? Yea never know, maybe it was an old well years ago and was partially filled in before they built the room.

As far as the bones, I assume there is a crawl space under the house? Maybe cats and other animals were under your house and fell in. No way to get out so they died.

I can't tell if the floor is solid or not. It does look like a water tank, but I've never seen one this wide, this kind of a location (relative to the house) or this kind of set-up. The pipe in the pictures is not connected to anything and when I lift it a few inches and drop it the floor almost sounds hollow. I am now thinking there could be another opening under the pile of dirt. As for the bones, I pulled a small skull out by joining 2 push broom handles and taping a hook on the end but the bones in the picture appear too large to be from the same animal. I just shot some video, let me take a look and see if it shows anything new.

rowan 11-14-2007 10:04 PM

Are you game to go down there? Bring a friend or family member over so they can help. :)

ProjectNaked 11-14-2007 10:07 PM

this whole thing doesn't make sence - not a septic, not shaped or sized like a well, strange opening, stranger trapdoor above opening that was floored over to conceal.

gonna find me a lucky volunteer tomorrow to go into the abyss....

halfpint 11-14-2007 10:09 PM

Wow thats just mad how long have you lived in the house, before you realized that you had a trap door there , Is it shown in the any of the plans for the house

ProjectNaked 11-14-2007 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by halfpint (Post 13374319)
Wow just mad how long have you lived in the house, before you realized that you had a trap door there , Is it shown in the any of the plans for the house

We have owned the house for about 10 years. My brother and I use it as a cottage when we are in Michigan. I have spent about 4 or 5 years total in it. As for plans, the house was built around 1900 - when I gutted the walls of the room with the trapdoor, I found where someone had written their name, the city, and Oct 28, 1914. This is one of the last rooms to be remodeled. It would figure this would happen as I was planning to knock this out quick. The room was added onto the side of the house I would assume to cover the "well" as I'm gonna call it. The strange part is that there is no cover to the "well" and why put a trap door in unless you are gonna use it. My mind is flying all over the place now. Gonna be a spooky night for sure :disgust

Evil E 11-14-2007 10:24 PM

Maybe you could rent the "well" to silent knight.

halfpint 11-14-2007 10:24 PM

Does sound strange and as you said they would normally fill the tanks in before buiding on top of it, Unless who ever knew it was there decided that it would make a good storage room or something, and the people who moved in after couldent be bothered to fill it in and just hid the door. Rather you than me going down there though..goodluck.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 11-14-2007 10:41 PM

i would have totally dove down in there by now already. i wish i had a cool as spot like that in my house...

Loki 11-14-2007 10:47 PM

AA is a nice place, I'm about an hour or so from T.C in the "Golf Mecca" city lol

anyway, been staring at the first batch of photos and tons of questions fill my mind..... (yours to i'm sure heh)

http://www.finalcutmodels.com/1.jpg
In this photo (or at least at this angle) it seems this is NOT the full opening of the "well" as you only see a small portion of the 'entry', have you check around the surrounding tiles to see if more cover?

http://www.finalcutmodels.com/2.jpg
(1)how deep would you say this thing is? just going by scratch marks (seem to be 3 scratches per marking) it would have to be shallow if they were made by an animal.

(2) What is the small white looking thing at the bottom center? (I read mention of a pipe somewhere is that it?) and if so is that plastic? if so that tells me it was 'added' in the last 50 years or so (wonder why???)

(3) In the dead center I assume that is dirt, you said you tapped down there and it sounded hollow? thats a bit odd seeing as there seems to be stonework (cement) all around it, this now reminds me of that movie..... ehh nevermind lol


DEFF Keep us all updated!

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-Loki-

Loki 11-14-2007 10:52 PM

One more thing, and call it a dumbass hunch lol

the very bottom cement it looks black in the photos, can you notice any SOOT or ASH anywhere around that area (mainly on the bottom)

and if so, check the "dirt" is it instead ash?

-Loki-

ProjectNaked 11-14-2007 10:55 PM

it's 9ft deep - I can't tell how far up the wall the scratches are but I'd guess 4-5 ft?

The white thing is a piece of flooring that fell into the hole.

The pipe is iron and goes virtically into the hole. It is just sitting straight up and down, but I don't want to pull it out of the pile of whatever it is in until I get down there. It would make a good poking rod if someone was.....nevermind

ProjectNaked 11-14-2007 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by vdc-Loki (Post 13374470)
One more thing, and call it a dumbass hunch lol

the very bottom cement it looks black in the photos, can you notice any SOOT or ASH anywhere around that area (mainly on the bottom)

and if so, check the "dirt" is it instead ash?

-Loki-

that is bugging the shit out of me at the moment - the stuff on the floor is black - very black just like ash. It looks like baked mud in the sun -

minusonebit 11-14-2007 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ProjectNaked (Post 13374130)
what exactly does that mean? maybe you would like to stop by and have a look...



please come alone :feels-hot

Wasn't it Dahmer who buried his prey under his house?

ProjectNaked 11-14-2007 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by minusonebit (Post 13374523)
Wasn't it Dahmer who buried his prey under his house?

I believe he kept the parts in the freezer....

FelixFlow 11-14-2007 11:20 PM

wow thats very interesting, and kinda creepy too!!

BlingDaddy 11-14-2007 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ProjectNaked (Post 13374486)
it's 9ft deep - I can't tell how far up the wall the scratches are but I'd guess 4-5 ft?

The white thing is a piece of flooring that fell into the hole.

The pipe is iron and goes virtically into the hole. It is just sitting straight up and down, but I don't want to pull it out of the pile of whatever it is in until I get down there. It would make a good poking rod if someone was.....nevermind

I'd get another house... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

ProjectNaked 11-14-2007 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BlingDaddy (Post 13374545)
I'd get another house... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

it doesn't bother me - maybe I'll find Hoffa's wallet tomorrow :thumbsup

Shagbunny 11-14-2007 11:49 PM

k i'm gonna have fucking nightmares now

ProjectNaked 11-15-2007 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Shagbunny (Post 13374588)
k i'm gonna have fucking nightmares now

I'm here alone tonight - wanna trade spaces :)

yota71 11-15-2007 12:02 AM

It may have been an entrance to an escape tunnel or a bomb shelter used used in ww1.

The tunnel may have been filled after the threat of the war was over

Evil E 11-15-2007 06:10 AM

So did you call Sherlock Holmes yet?

cool1 11-15-2007 06:19 AM

wow that is weird and cool at the same time.

Naughty-Pages 11-15-2007 08:21 AM

It's not possible for the fingernails to leave marks on the well..

At least in my own experience.. i mean i know for a fact that the last 7 girls i put in our well tried clawing their way out, but none of them were able to leave marks..

halfpint 11-15-2007 04:18 PM

Have you gone down into the well yet?

fuzzylogic 11-15-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by ProjectNaked (Post 13374486)
it's 9ft deep - I can't tell how far up the wall the scratches are but I'd guess 4-5 ft?

i have two house cats that can jump 6 ft straight up.

those scratch marks were not made by a human. do not get carried away. human nails are flat and broad. something sharp, strong and pointed made the wall marks. feline nails are curved to increase strength and pressure on the point of the nail.

cats primarly use three claws. same with dogs i believe.

ProjectNaked 11-15-2007 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by fuzzylogic (Post 13377444)
i have two house cats that can jump 6 ft straight up.

those scratch marks were not made by a human. do not get carried away. human nails are flat and broad. something sharp, strong and pointed made the wall marks. feline nails are curved to increase strength and pressure on the point of the nail.

cats primarly use three claws. same with dogs i believe.

TRUST ME - I am hoping there is nothing down there. The last thing I want it to discover a crime scene under my house. Especially since that would lead to the house being torn apart by investigators. However, merely finding this chaimber under a trap door, hidden by flooring is not the only reason I believe there to be unanswered questions.

I have someone skinny coming over tonight or tomorrow and we are gonna get to the bottom of this, litteraly.

teg0 11-15-2007 05:45 PM

This is probably the most interesting thread I've ever read on GFY.

crockett 11-15-2007 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ProjectNaked (Post 13374486)
it's 9ft deep - I can't tell how far up the wall the scratches are but I'd guess 4-5 ft?

The white thing is a piece of flooring that fell into the hole.

The pipe is iron and goes virtically into the hole. It is just sitting straight up and down, but I don't want to pull it out of the pile of whatever it is in until I get down there. It would make a good poking rod if someone was.....nevermind

Dude you better tie a rope on your ass before you enter that hole.. Other wise in about 50 years some other dude will be posting on here asking about fingernail marks and bones in a hole that he found under his house. :warning:warning:warning

beemk 11-15-2007 05:50 PM

it puts the lotion on

ProjectNaked 11-15-2007 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13377693)
Dude you better tie a rope on your ass before you enter that hole.. Other wise in about 50 years some other dude will be posting on here asking about fingernail marks and bones in a hole that he found under his house. :warning:warning:warning

lol - that is why I am waiting for my volunteer - he just doesn't know the whole story yet :winkwink:

beemk 11-15-2007 05:51 PM

btw, what city are you in now? i moved to livonia earlier this year.

WarChild 11-15-2007 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by yota71 (Post 13374631)
a bomb shelter used used in ww1.

I don't think there were a lot of bombers flying around between 1914 and 1918. :2 cents:

ProjectNaked 11-15-2007 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by beemk (Post 13377703)
btw, what city are you in now? i moved to livonia earlier this year.

this was the golf course house, sw of AA

_Richard_ 11-15-2007 06:02 PM

i'd be calling the police.. just tell them the deal and ask what you should do

_Richard_ 11-15-2007 06:03 PM

but those scratch marks look like an animal

Nismo 11-15-2007 06:36 PM

Looks like a cock fighting pit.

_Richard_ 11-16-2007 04:18 PM

nothing new?

ProjectNaked 11-16-2007 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Sexbankroll (Post 13381743)
nothing new?

just about to build a ladder to crawl in, the opening is too small to fit a regular one through. I'll post when we get started.

VicD 11-16-2007 06:22 PM

yes, i think visible marks are possible
they found similar marks in the gaschambers after the second worldwar

Loki 11-18-2007 01:08 AM

Bump....

UPDATES!!!!!!!

-Loki-


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