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charlie g 11-13-2007 06:22 PM

If the people support Paul enough to be elected then he will have enough support to make changes.

The majority of people did not vote for bush. The majority of people did not vote for clinton. So my point that we do not live in a democracy is valid. It's not just semantics, it is an important distinction.

Individual rights are not defined by law but are limited by them. They are defined by the constitution and the bill of rights. These are documents that are the basis for everything our country was founded upon. These are ideals that Ron Paul holds central to his candidacy and this is the reason I am still continuing this thread.

ADL Colin 11-13-2007 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13368698)
Ron Paul is this industry's BEST CHOICE, hands down, period!

If you have half a fucking brain, spend 1 hour researching the candidates, if you can't come to the conclusion that Ron Paul's positions protect our industry the best you're completely fucking retarded.

His record speaks for itself. We're in an industry that has become a direct target of government regulation time and time again.

I don't care what I may disagree with him on, none of it outweighs protecting my income.

WAKE UP PEOPLE - RON PAUL 2008!

Our industry *does* have a lot of cheerleaders. Here's to one more. :drinkup

ADL Colin 11-13-2007 06:24 PM

53 wasted votes!

Xplicit 11-13-2007 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 13368717)
Our industry *does* have a lot of cheerleaders. Here's to one more. :drinkup


Please enlighten me.

Whos hands do you trust our industry in? A fucking FEMINIST FEMALE (Hillary) or BUSH pt2 (Rudy).

Seriously, tell me who your choice is and why. Tell me what that person has done or said that assures you our industry won't face additional gov regulations.

ADL Colin 11-13-2007 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13368730)
Please enlighten me.

Whos hands do you trust our industry in? A fucking FEMINIST FEMALE (Hillarty) or BUSH pt2 (Rudy).

Seriously, tell me who your choice is and why. Tell me what that person has done or said that assures you our industry won't face additional gov regulations.

You are trying to frame question as to which candidate has views that are the friendliest to the porn industry? Of course, the answer is the libertarian. If I were to vote on that one issue then Paul would be the best of those 3 candidates. My views on social liberties ARE libertarian. Of course it doesn't matter cuz the guy is NOT going to win the Republican nomination and no amount of cheerleading is gonna change that.

But I don't vote on just this one issue. "Social liberties" and "protection of the porn industry" aren't my only concerns. Each of the various candidates has advantages and disadvantages over each other. They are largely a matter of personal preference. You can't "get it" or not "get it". It is a question of the way one wants the world to be. "12 Clicks" like Republicans, you like libertarians, Dig420 likes Democrats. None of them "get it" or "don't get it". These are personal preferences about the world and the way you'd like it to be. That is it.

I think abolishing the IRS, the Federal Reserve and pulling the US out of the UN is potentially so disruptive that "protection of the porn industry" would not be very high on my list of concerns after it.

Xplicit 11-13-2007 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 13368778)
You are trying to frame question as to which candidate has views that are the friendliest to the porn industry? Of course, the answer is the libertarian. If I were to vote on that one issue then Paul would be the best of those 3 candidates. My views on social liberties ARE libertarian. Of course it doesn't matter cuz the guy is NOT going to win the Republican nomination and no amount of cheerleading is gonna change that.

But I don't vote on just this one issue. "Social liberties" and "protection of the porn industry" aren't my only concerns. Each of the various candidates has advantages and disadvantages over each other. They are largely a matter of personal preference. You can't "get it" or not "get it". It is a question of the way one wants the world to be. "12 Clicks" like Republicans, you like libertarians, Dig420 likes Democrats. None of them "get it" or "don't get it". These are personal preferences about the world and the way you'd like it to be. That is it.

I think abolishing the IRS, the Federal Reserve and pulling the US out of the UN is potentially so disruptive that "protection of the porn industry" would not be very high on my list of concerns after it.

Great, continue to support the policies that have us paying taxes out of our asses, and the forign policy thats made us the most hated country on the earth.

....and your support of those policies outweighs protecting your own industry, bank account, and future earnings.

Got it, thanks for clearing things up. :1orglaugh


P.S. You dodged the question - WHO DO YOU SUPPORT AND WHY?

ADL Colin 11-13-2007 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13368798)
Great, continue to support the policies that have us paying taxes out of our asses, and the forign policy thats made us the most hated country on the earth.

....and your support of those policies outweighs protecting your own industry, bank account, and future earnings.

Got it, thanks for clearing things up. :1orglaugh


P.S. You dodged the question - WHO DO YOU SUPPORT AND WHY?

No, I didn't dodge the question at all. I said "each of the various candidates has advantages and disadvantages over each other". You presume that everyone supports one particular candidate? I like some positions of Clintons more than Giulianis. I support some positions of McCains over Obamas. I support some positions of Pauls over Clintons. It's a mixed bag with any politician. I'm not a card-carrying member of any of those parties.

Which policies are you assuming I support and of which candidate? I didn't comment at all on taxes or foreign policy. You just pulled that out of your ass. Quite presumptuous, aren't you?

Drake 11-13-2007 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13368698)
Ron Paul is this industry's BEST CHOICE, hands down, period!

If you have half a fucking brain, spend 1 hour researching the candidates, if you can't come to the conclusion that Ron Paul's positions protect our industry the best you're completely fucking retarded.

His record speaks for itself. We're in an industry that has become a direct target of government regulation time and time again.

I don't care what I may disagree with him on, none of it outweighs protecting my income.

WAKE UP PEOPLE - RON PAUL 2008!

C'mon there is more than this industry that's at stake.

ADL Colin 11-13-2007 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13368698)
I don't care what I may disagree with him on, none of it outweighs protecting my income.

Please. The IRS is the only government agency that loves the porn industry :1orglaugh

drjones 11-13-2007 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by dstaff (Post 13368079)
There isn't a doubt in my mind that the morons of America will elect someone who will continue on the path of self destruction....enjoy the slippery slope.

What he said.

Xplicit 11-13-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 13368833)
No, I didn't dodge the question at all. I said "each of the various candidates has advantages and disadvantages over each other". You presume that everyone supports one particular candidate? I like some positions of Clintons more than Giulianis. I support some positions of McCains over Obamas. I support some positions of Pauls over Clintons. It's a mixed bag with any politician. I'm not a card-carrying member of any of those parties.

Which policies are you assuming I support and of which candidate? I didn't comment at all on taxes or foreign policy. You just pulled that out of your ass. Quite presumptuous, aren't you?

Yes you did dodge the question. I agree its a mixed bag, anyone with half a brain knows the chances of any 1 politician mirroring every you have is highly unlikely - you just stated the obvious.

Now out of this 'mixed bag', choose ONE.

Lets make it easy, complete this sentence "If I had to vote right now, it would be for ______ "

ADL Colin 11-14-2007 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Xplicit (Post 13368993)
Yes you did dodge the question. I agree its a mixed bag, anyone with half a brain knows the chances of any 1 politician mirroring every you have is highly unlikely - you just stated the obvious.

Now out of this 'mixed bag', choose ONE.

Lets make it easy, complete this sentence "If I had to vote right now, it would be for ______ "

Apparently it is not so obvious. Most people would say it is a mixed bag but STILL have a preference for one candidate or the other. I don't. Not at all. I have no OVERALL preference between the current candidates that allows me to decide which of them would most likely lead to a world that I thought was better either for me, my family, my country or the world.

Optimally, I'd take a Democratic president and a Republican Congress and Senate OR a Republican president with a Democratic Congress and Senate.I really don't care which.

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