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Iron Fist 11-16-2007 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by JD (Post 13372131)
93 sales for me today... so yeah a tad slow

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

scottybuzz 11-17-2007 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13382437)
yeah man you on to something.... then
after christmas it will be slow for months because people maxed out their cards for christmas and wont want to spend money on porn and you know it is still cold as shit in jan feb, etc.. so no good sales the with those high heating bills, come march / april you have spring break, so all kids out of school for few weeks, partying not spending on porn, also you have tax day, which your fucked because people owe money, fuck then after that the summer slow down starts in may, weather is nice, people going out to have fun in the sun not watching porn, and kids out of school . are you kidding me, you can't make money when kids are out of school for 3 months, the summer is shot!!!! then come august, kids go back toschool parents need to spend money on books and cloths, and college kids too, then the holidays are back and we right back here. On top of all of that gas prices are high, people can't afford to pay their mortgages, unrest in the middle east, economy is bad, etc. etc..

so what you trying to tell me is that you make excuses why you doing bad, because there is an excuse for every day of the fucking year. thanks for playing. :thumbsup

how come days before christmas then sales always rock big time?

The Judge 11-17-2007 04:13 AM

its getting worse and worse every year, i noticed a couple regular paid spot buyers dropping out of the game recently because they could no longer turn a profit

Linkster 11-17-2007 05:45 AM

will76 - agreed - and having been around the biz for 10 years Ive seen all the excuses in the world for people that cant sell shit on a stick - what is going on here though is something that started Oct 20th or so - and affects at least 3 US processors - and has caused two major programs to try to swap out their cascade order but Im thinking that it was to no avail as they just swapped to another affected processor

While I totally agree that over years and years there has been the steady drop due to the free stuff and all other regular market forces - this downturn is way off the charts (literally - since I keep big charts) - the normal trend over the years has been around a 5% drop on some traffic a year - but easily made up for by doing something else/new - this drop in October was completely different and affected all types of traffic since it was on the processors' end - and was easily a sharp 20% drop overall - although I can make up for it with other programs - it was just interesting to see that it is(or seems to be) tied to something limited to the US credit card processing market

Barefootsies 11-17-2007 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by CreatineGuy (Post 13356704)
ccbill is the problem... their nazi filtering makes it impossible to get sales form some countries.. so those with a lot of foreign traffic need to worry..

in the other corner you have paycom, that applied that filtering too this year... Paycom Euro that is..

I have to admit my CCB have been down this month as well. Traditional sales that went through them in the past seem to be flowing through my secondary, so I am still increasing sales as the cold months kick back into gear.

But these past few weeks have been some of my lowest CCB weeks I can remember.

Barefootsies 11-17-2007 07:23 AM

I also agree with Will to a degree. Plenty of people cry chicken little when they are off for a day week. But if there is a trend effecting multiple people, I give it a thought.

I know for me in the summer months, my sales dip 'maybe' 10-15% (knock on wood) over the years as long as my behavior is the same.

But you have to look at it realistically as well. For example. Just as surfers are outside more, vacationing, etc. So are a lot of webmasters. So you are not hunched over your computer like you would be in the winter (i.e. you are not working as hard).

But I know for me I made conscious efforts in the past few years to make sure behavior remained the same. When it did. Sales barely dented in summer. Or if I would have a slow month on clips or DVD, I would have a kick ass month somewhere else equally things out.

But in this case, I have noticed lowest CCB's sales I can recall.

:2 cents:

pornguy 11-17-2007 08:04 AM

While I tend to agree with Will76, I do believe this year has been a touch different. Its not just the holidays. This is the first time in my life that gas has been this high at x-mas, and all the foreclosures going on. People are not spending like normal, because every thing cost so much. On top of that, they are all watching their tv every night wondering when we will be plunged into another war.

We have all seen a bit of a downward trend over that last 3 or 4 months, but I believe this will change somewhere near the end of Jan.

This is kind of like a rain storm. The first few hours, you stay indoors and saty dry. and if it last about 5 hours or so, you say fuck it. You run to the car and go to the movies or a friends to hang out. Because this is $$ we are talking, it will take a little longer, but you get the idea.

PantieZ 11-17-2007 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ridikuloz (Post 13372021)
who masturbates during the day time?

ever heard of timezones ?

its not the same time all over the world, u know ....

polish_aristocrat 11-17-2007 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sharphead (Post 13382441)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

he's joking....

will76 11-17-2007 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by scottybuzz (Post 13383165)
how come days before christmas then sales always rock big time?

my post was sarcasm just to make sure everyone got that.


Why do sales go up before christmas? are we talking department stores or porn ? Everything I am talking about is online porn. Lots of things affect mainstream businesses, especially offline ones.

will76 11-17-2007 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Linkster (Post 13383315)
will76 - agreed - and having been around the biz for 10 years Ive seen all the excuses in the world for people that cant sell shit on a stick - what is going on here though is something that started Oct 20th or so - and affects at least 3 US processors - and has caused two major programs to try to swap out their cascade order but Im thinking that it was to no avail as they just swapped to another affected processor

While I totally agree that over years and years there has been the steady drop due to the free stuff and all other regular market forces - this downturn is way off the charts (literally - since I keep big charts) - the normal trend over the years has been around a 5% drop on some traffic a year - but easily made up for by doing something else/new - this drop in October was completely different and affected all types of traffic since it was on the processors' end - and was easily a sharp 20% drop overall - although I can make up for it with other programs - it was just interesting to see that it is(or seems to be) tied to something limited to the US credit card processing market

I agree with all of that. Processors most likely are a big part of why sales may be up and down from day to day, but most people think it is gas prices or the weather. I can see a processor making changes or having problems and everyone taking a hit.

Also I agree with the overall decline. Free porn is going to kill most traditional picture and video membership sites. thats a fact. But it is a slow gradual decline, wont happen over night and it wont be because of groundhog day or whatever other shit people blame their bad sales days on.

Penny24Seven 11-17-2007 01:36 PM

we have a small site so it probably will not affect us as much but nothing has changed at all. Best week ever was the one where ccbill was late with the checks. It went back to normal after that. 90% of my traffic comes from me though and what little I get is very good. My best affiliate has gone down some so there are areas you can see it . If I did not have my own traffic it would suck a lot more

BOSS1 11-17-2007 01:47 PM

all i have to say.... thank god for SEGPAY

PSSuperstars 11-17-2007 02:16 PM

Phone Sex and Cam are still banging.
September was my biggest month ever.. October sucks (but I wasn't really marketing alot).. and November is going to end up beating September.

as far as my regular porn goes, the big processors with rebills are keeping me afloat there.. but new porn sales on cookie cutter teen sites or blowjob sites.. not selling.

Niche and Fetish, guys.. niche and fetish...

ninavain 11-17-2007 02:51 PM

been online since the end of 04, sales have been harder to get since the end of 05, now even harder.. too much competition on the web. We've been creative in order to maintain our cashflow and it AIN'T with an affiliate program. ( Affiliates count for 10-15% of our sales so it's really something we don't push anymore. The surfer is becoming a different animal and we are changing with the surfer

kovacs 11-17-2007 05:48 PM

I blame spyware. If you look through the serps, all the successful spammers with parasite doorways on high trust hosting are sending their traffic to exploits rather than FPAs for affiliate programs... They must be infecting thousands upon thousands of people every day, and then those people are effectively lost to the legit adult market until they do a reformat.

will76 11-17-2007 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kovacs (Post 13385479)
I blame spyware. If you look through the serps, all the successful spammers with parasite doorways on high trust hosting are sending their traffic to exploits rather than FPAs for affiliate programs... They must be infecting thousands upon thousands of people every day, and then those people are effectively lost to the legit adult market until they do a reformat.



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