whatever....I have been involved deeply in the rave scene since I was 17 years old, and I am 32 now...out of the thousands of raves I have been to and the hundreds of thousands of ravers/people I have known, I have only known about 2-3 deaths that DIRECTLY came from going to raves or were because of the rave culture....and only one of those was actually at a rave, and it was because she od'd on heroin

if you watch the tv and pay attention to the news, you will get a VERY distorted view of raves and the rave culture, but in fact the rave culture are some of the most educated people on drugs....

I see more harm and recklessness in dance clubs these days then I do at raves

Its been almost 15 years since I dropped my first hit of E. Did it quite a bit back then and I will probably never do it again. It drains the life out of people. I have seen its destruction first hand. Causes anxiety and insomnia, depression and anger problems. I guess it would be "safe" if you did 1-2 pills every few months but doing it on a regular basis is not very smart.

its GREAT for your spine

drugs do irreparable damage to your brain and body

what else do you need to know?

right now I want you to post scientific proof that ecstasy use once every other week does damage to your brain or body

i doubt you can though, because it doesn't

drinking alcohol all night long does more damage to both body and mind than a single tab of ecstasy out at a club one night

it does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to your spine

post proof of your claims, and not the study that was debunked in 2002 because they used meth in the study and not mdma

I think the lethal dose could range from 10-20 mg/kg according to this site http://thedea.org/technicalFAQ.html

yeah, and if you believe the DEA website I have some farm land in southern florida for you

It all depends what's used to make it.I've heard people using rat poison and drain cleaners as well as other household cleaners..stay away from that shit

It might not kill you, but it destroys your brain cells like nothing else. I have had my fair share, and seeing a scan of my head really opened my eyes to how fucked up it really can be. If you're going to party, don't over abuse it. Moderation is always the key.

I'd like someone to find one case where someone died using ONLY "e"...I have never heard of a case where they weren't using other drugs / stimulants (like ephedrine) at the same time. A few years ago 20/20 did the first ever non-government funded study on estacy and dispproved every single thing the government(s) claim it does to you. It's one of the safest things you can put in your body...but like anything else (alcohol, hamburgers, etc)...the user can decide if it becomes harmful.

MDMA is not harmfull. its the other stuff they put in it. .02

what he said

:thumbsup

Its the best experience ever, it's worth doing it once. But yes it is bad. But chance of dying from it is one in a million

Shrooms are far more better in smaller doses

i think jenkem is more better

New stuff? Just checked on wikipedia more info on this?

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...72jenkem1.html

Err no thanks :)

Jenkem ftw!

YES, a lot actually. Young girls and guys. about 10 years ago (maybe even longer) when I still lived in Holland we heard reports all the time of young people dying on xtc pills. Then they had "check stations" at parties where you could go and have your pill tested if it was ok to take.

so, they died from taking fake pills or died from ecstasy?

I suggest you read up on scientific studies on what ecstasy actually does to your body and IF it is possible to OD directly from ecstasy

majority of the OD reports you hear are merely idiot drug takers that don't know how to handle a real high and go to far

I'm not a big drug person but i really want to try E. :winkwink: Have to find the good shit, i know a girl that has a lot of it, but how do u know its good? :disgust

Hard to know that maybe ask some friend that have experience with that :) small amount of shrooms can give you the same effect without big hallucionation , give a try to Psilocybe cubensis Amazonian (XTC) very relaxing shroom without big visuals

do yourself a favor and order this:
http://dancesafe.org/shop/?page=shop...65e c6758366c

read about it here:
http://www.dancesafe.org/testingkits/

I'm going to order this, lol. :thumbsup

we have one here and every single pill we get goes through the test, it has saved us so much time and money

we got some pills last week that tested straight up pure speed...not one single bit of ecstasy in them whatsoever

I love EEEEEEE. I have taken up to 10 hits in one night. I have a pic somewhere. Here it is. This was New Years 1999 on 10 hits of EEEE. Now I try to take it at least once a year. Might have to skip this one because of the baby coming soon but I 'll get around to it. I remember the good ole day when I would buy 100 of them and eat most with my friends. I was getting them for 5 bucks so they were like candy sometimes. The good ones I have taken always have been red but those mitsubishi doublestacks mmmmmm


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I hope not all at once, haha

back in my dealing days we used to have bags of pills just everywhere within our group...after we spent a whole weekend dealing we would go and get a hotel room for a few nights and just party for 2-3 days straight...I think my record was 24 pills in 3 days...after you eat 5-6 of them you have to start double dropping and triple dropping...i fried my brain a few times over in those days

nowadays we usually stick to 2-3 max a night

we were fortunate enough to get some totally pure pills a few weekends ago, in the test they went from clear to almost black in 2 seconds......the quicker the liquid turns to dark blue/black the better it is and more mdma/mda is in the pill.....right after I tested them I ran back to the guy and grabbed 20 more and stashed them away, you don't come across shit like that much anymore...we rolled our ASSES off that night

No not at once. Another time I was at a party dividing 8 hits with my girl and a friend. Then all of a sudden this fucking security guard rolled up on me. With one fell swoop I gobbled all 8 of them to keep the bitch from taking them. I fucking rolled so hard that night.

I don't believe it someone mentioned this! I've gotten into this debate too many times and it never makes a difference but quickly you get the high form E because of a massive release of serotonin. The result of this is that the cells that release the serotonin die. What sucks is that these cells aren't located in a discrete location in the brain but rather are somewhat spread out so don't count on a stem cell cure for it.

That's the coles notes version which is a little over simplified but the moral is don't do it.

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stem cell cure for what? losing seratonin?

http://www.vitadiscount.com/vitasprings/5htp-100mg.jpg

I just don't see the point in doing them.

MDMA has been the subject of a smear campaign. Cut through the misinformation.

btw, there are a LOT of new studies coming out recently that disprove a LOT of facts we have "known" about ecstasy for years....now that drug use is becoming more of a mainstream accepted form of fun, there are more private (non-government) funded organizations doing legit studies instead of those crap studies the government alters or fudges facts on

I went to a rave once. Then I saw some loser walking around holding a doll. So I left..

hahhahaha :1orglaugh

I would do the same. Lucky for me I was in tight with some promoters and my first time was a fucking blast. Northern California "Freedom" 1997. They are much different now.

Any one like Mark Farina ???

No problem if you take a pill one night, and if you don´t do it tto often. Like most of drugs the problem come from abuse, and abuse come from no information for those who use it.